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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2008, 10:21:09 PM »

Good job by all involved - a fine example of cooperation and teamwork.

I have been interested in the operation of this device and its potential for a number of years...due to my lack of formal backgrounding, I try to stay out of the way in technical discussions, and will continue watching and learning until I have something helpful to contribute.


@ Jack...much thanks to you for helping the cause.

Did you get a chance to examine the switch box that the TPU was wired to ?

I am concerned that the depth of the average box together with extra wide box used in the demonstration would provide space for the batteries some speculated were hidden inside the unit.

Anyone familiar with electrical installation can see in the above pics, that much narrower switch boxes are normally used to house common wall sockets.   

It appears there is something besides the plug socket in the switch box...could it have been an DC to AC converter ?

Regards...

 


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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2008, 11:06:15 PM »
I like many others, at one time believed this was possibly fake and used batteries, but it is NOT SO.

Just read once again the report from Dr. Schinzinger:   What does that tell you about it's output resistance  (internal source resistance)?  It tells me it is very small, less than one ohm, since the current goes from one amp to two amps and the voltage practically stays the same  (137 Volts) so it's within the round off error on the ampmeter display.  Note, the output is DC, makes you think doesn't it?

Also note that he shorted the large tpu across a 50 amp fuse, with only a small flicker on the connected lightbulbs.   What does that tell you?  This tells me this thing has freeking lots of power potential with a VERY LOW INTERNAL RESISTANCE.  If you will, it's the same for a simple coil of wire, THE COLLECTOR, that SM has been refering to, and a moving magnetic field that induces "electron flow of high order".

No friends, this is not a battery , but it's what SM said to us in his letters, read them carefully, they're packed with info, and the descerning mind will draw valuable info from them.


Here's the report once again:

Roland Schinzinger, PhD.
29 Gilman St. Irvine, CA 92715-2703, Phone & FAX: (714) 786-7691

Second report on Energy Device
 
At the request of Steven Mark I agreed to thoroughly test his invention of an energy device “toroid” at my laboratory at the UCI campus.
With me was John Sanchez who will act as an observer and Mr. Mark who will operate his device for the tests.
 
The device is reported to develop measurable amounts of electric power beyond any known battery or storage device. In fact the inventor claims that his device will create electric power indefinitely as long as it is permitted to cool at intervals.
 
Mr. Mark arrived promptly at 8:30 AM and wasted no time in permitting my examination of two units.
The first unit was roughly shaped like a large donut. It measured approximately 4.72” across with an inside diameter hole of 3” making a core width approximately 1” thick
The unit was exactly 2” tall, resembling a “Toroid”. I did not measure the weight however the unit was extremely light when held in the hand.
 
Mr. Mark connected the unit directly to a 100 watt 120 volt incandescent light bulb and caused the unit to operate. It did in fact illuminate the incandescent bulb quite brightly. I measured the voltage at 137 volts D.C. exactly, (ObS). See note*
I then measured the current flowing through the wires to the bulb at a steady one-ampere, (ObS).
We noted the time at 9:06 AM.,(ObS).
We next measured the light output from the bulb with a luminescence meter and noted that it read2.5, (ObS). Next we measured a similar incandescent bulb placed in a socket powered from the main 120 volt (as measured) AC power provided to the laboratory. It measured 2.4 on the luminescence meter. This can probably be accounted for because the voltage as measured from the Toroid device is 137 volts and therefore 12 volts greater, generating a slight increase in light output over the incandescent light powered by the laboratory main power supply system.
The toroid device did indeed provide the standard voltage and current necessary to provide electric lighting for a 120-volt circuit.
The inventor then asked us for another bulb, which we provided him and he set about connecting the second bulb along with the first.
The second bulb was connected in parallel to the first and did indeed light just as brightly as the first.
I measured 137 volts now across the output just as before although the load had doubled and the impedance halved (ObS).
I measured the current flowing to the two bulbs at just less then 2-amperes, (ObS).
The inventor stated that the unit would provide the two amperes at 137 volts for several hours, if not indefinitely. We were cautioned that the unit while in operation would generate heat leading to self-destruction if not shut down and permitted to cool. He claimed that after cooling the unit could be restarted and used again over and over.
We permitted the first unit to remain in operation and provide power for the two incandescent bulbs while we turned our attention to the second larger unit the inventor brought with him for testing.
 
The second unit was again toroid shaped with a large hole in the center. It was approximately 15” at the outside and 13 “ inside with a core thickness of approximately 1”.  The unit was 4” tall. The unit was not measured in weight but could be easily lifted with one hand, (ObS).
 
The inventor started the second larger unit in operation and cautioned myself and Mr. Sanchez not to touch the output leads from the device as they were at lethal potential. The time was 9:39 AM.
The inventor measured the output leads and told us there was 600 volts potential at several amperes.
He connected the unit to five 120 volt 100 watt incandescent light bulbs as provided by myself. The larger second unit did indeed brightly light the five incandescent bulbs brightly. These bulbs were wired in series.
I measured the current through the wire connected to the 5-bulbs at 1.1 ampere, (ObS). I measured the voltage at 614 volts D.C., (ObS).
 
The inventor then connected another five 120 volt light bulbs along with the first five making a total of ten 120 volt, 100 watt incandescent light bulbs lighting at equal intensity.
I measured the light output with a luminescence meter at 2.43 each light bulb, (ObS). I did not measure the current but calculated it to be 2 amperes at 614 volts.
I asked the inventor if this was the limit of the unit and he replied, “by no way.”
He provided a quick blow fuse rated at 50 amperes.
With two large electrical clamps and wiring, he shorted the fuse across the output terminals of the toroid and destroyed the fuse, (ObS). There was only a slight flickering of the ten incandescent bulbs as observed although there was a tremendous discharge of sparks from the output terminals of the toroid unit.
The inventor then gave me the fuse for examination. It was warm to the touch and smelled acrid, (ObS). It was a large 240 volt AC air conditioner disconnect fuse and designed for severe service duty, (OsS).
The inventorÂ’s claim that the large toroid output terminals were at lethal potential was no longer in question.
 
The time was 11:20 AM when the inventor removed the small toroid unit from operation because of heat build up.
I examined the small toroid unit and it was indeed quite hot to the touch.
 
The unit had been in steady operation for exactly two hours and fourteen minutes.  Noted: 2-hours and 14 minutes, (ObS).
 
The load of 2- amperes at 137-volts did not change through the test period.
 
I can personally state that I do not know of any battery or storage device of this size or weight with this capability.
 

The time was 12:47 when the inventor removed the large toroid device from operation.
It had been in constant operation for three hours and eight minutes.
Noted: 3-hours and 8 minutes, (ObS).
 
The load of 10-amperes and the voltage of 614 volts did not change throughout the test with the exception that the voltage did began to fluctuate at 12:03 and began a slight decline to 598 volts by the end of the test. This could be due to heating of the unit while in operation.
 
I can personally state that I do not know of any battery or storage device of this size or weight with this capability.
 
I cannot determine how many hours the toriod units could potentially operate because of our limited time available for testing.
I can however state with relative certainty I believe the tests show great potential for this Toroid technology.
 
 
 
December 12, 1995                                                      Roland Schinzinger
 
*note:  (ObS)  “also observed by John Sanchez”.

P.S.  I drew this collector diagram to illustrate the output circuitry of the TPU based on these clues.  Yes there are dual stacks as seen in the spool TPU, and control coils as well, but this is just about the collector coil as SM called it.  With this model we will have some "hash" as SM said, but it's mainly DC, just like he said in the videos.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2008, 11:13:29 PM »
Jack ,
can you give us a few more names, who were involved in all
of this at this time you were around this ?

Who are the other persons in all the videos ?

Maybe if we can reach them and ask them also questions
we will still get more informations by some other persons
who might have played still more with the devices than you yourself.

Many thanks.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2008, 01:02:54 AM »
Regarding the other players surrounding the technology... There were no other people around outside of those mentioned. Most all of the inner circle were investors, Steven's attorney, and periodic visits from Spheric management. No one had unsupervised time with the devices including myself.

The video by the way, is a direct cut from the hi-8 master. I just dubbed the DVD I made years ago as a backup in case someone broke in and found it.

Getting back to prior statements...When I look at the output chokes and large polycarb caps I can't help but think that these are used as a means of isolating the load from the output. This theory would prove true if one were to discover that the output was feeding the choke/cap pairs in series. I cannot fathom why these would act as hash filters since the output is H.F. to begin with. In other words I only use chokes like these to mitigate noise in exotic power supply designs utilizing switching type regulators. The TPU is already producing H.F. so why filter it? The only argument I can see in opposition would be the I.R. drop across the chokes causing moderate to high localized heating. A slight discoloration of the choke windings would occur during operation perhaps even localized visible heat vapor. Another hint to consider is the capacitor chemistry selection. Why such an exotic cap? The polycarbonate capacitor exhibits very low ESR providing the purest or most ideal filtering characteristics especially in an application using higher voltages.

Do remember that Steven could not run inductive loads for quite a while. The youtube video that shows Steven running inductive loads was indicative of his finding a fix for the problem. The video quality however is so bad that it is very difficult to spot and obvious hardware mods made to the device.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2008, 01:19:22 AM »
I just read references to the output being R.F. I disagree. I believe the output was around 6khz as Steven stated. I have designed a lot of transceivers and R.F. just doesn't fit this form factor at all. R.F. is grossly inefficient under ideal conditions. Seeing how imprecisely wound the coils were I find it difficult to see R.F. at play here. I would be more open to considering that the quadrature orientation of the coils may act in some way like a phase locked loop. In other words consider that during startup an unlocked frequency or carrier if you will wonders around a bit then reaches a frequency that causes the secondary to resonate at some fundamental or harmonic frequency likely a multiple of the Schumann Cavity.

This may sound like a long shot but the more I ponder all the possibilities I keep coming back to a tuned resonant tank within a secondary tank.

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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2008, 01:31:08 AM »
Hi Jack,

I believe you will find the information provided by Steven Mark to be quite usefull.   Check out the "The Master of Magnetics Steven Mark" thread up top in the locked threads section, there's also a pdf file Marco composed here (user Turbo, at the time):  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2383.msg31887.html#msg31887

Here's an excerpt from one of his letters to us:

Think of the power unit as a device similar to a radio receiver. No I do not want to hear feed back informing me that I am trying to convince the world my unit works on radio waves!!!.
But it behaves very much like a simple radio receiver except for the fact that radio waves need to be amplified before they can be of any use to us.
My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio. The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.the important difference here is that in the case of the radio, you tune into the frequency and amplify it for use. In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference. The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil. You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain.  It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it. We instead must deliberately tune off the frequencies of conversion in order to make the thing properly work. Remember that it is like a furnace which feeds itself. The hotter it gets the more fuel it gives itself to burn. that is why the control units are so very important. Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self.
 
By the way, have you seen the video of the compass turning violently in the center of the unit while in operation? Notice that when I first turn the unit on that the compass starts to spin very slowly. it speeds up faster and faster until it just stops. When it stops the unit is always operating at about it's design maximum. We never found out why any of this occurred. It tended to reinforce what I observed as the turbine effect. When the unit is shut off the compass starts to revolve again and slowly comes to a rest.

EM
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2008, 01:56:39 AM »
sorry for the dumb question:

what is the difference, if any, between the torrent file that jdo is hosting and the files uploaded at MediaFire? isn't everything already in the torrent file?

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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 02:01:20 AM »
I believe you may be right about this Jack. It could be a Saturatable reactor LC circuit, or actually, 3 or four of them arranged around a toroid.

EM's post was good for a few reasons, not the least of which were the reference to the "missing video", and the "turbine effect".

The topology I posted about above would explain why it spins up slowly. At first it takes longer for the saturatable cores (mag amps) to reach saturation, than when they are in full operation. Of course the compass does not stop spinning because the magnetic field stops spinning, it stops because it's spinning too fast for the compass to respond. It would also explain a few of his other metaphors. The cannons firing successively, squeezing the hose, etc., etc.

At any rate, did you ever hear of the compass video? Or was that shot during the time that you worked with SM?

Oh, and thanks for this.

Regards,
Rich.

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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2008, 02:18:16 AM »
I just reviewed the larger unit segment and sure enough the chokes are the outputs.

Another little nugget...

I don't think the smallest unit has power switch. The entire assembly is covered with tape and Steven just walks up to it already sitting on a table and just connects to it. Could one assume that the earliest device was the smaller unit and due to its limited output it was never considered being dangerous left on. This would reveal that the device could run infinitely if not connected to  load! This also supports a phase locked device.

Perhaps the next larger unit with the magnet as a switch was designed as such when it was determined that the output was dangerous enough to warrant a switch. So what? Well it does reveal a lesser important but interesting clue. Magnetic reed switches are low current in this size. This would mean that the switch is connecting the low current/low voltage side of the device or the Primary!

So what? So what if the primary is in fact an antenna, a tuned antenna, better yet a tank circuit? An ordinary tuned tank circuit is designed to favor an in band frequency or wavelength and reject all other frequencies or wavelengths. Well the tank circuit certainly would not be conventional in that there is no ferrite rods or cores visible to maximize Q creating the ideal tank. But what if the target wavelength was very high amplitude in its natural state to begin with or at least a couple orders of magnitude above the ambient noise floor? Theoretically you would not need a tank at all but just a means of capturing the wavelength and introducing it to a matched secondary where the captured wavelength is superimposed over a series of windings that causes the primary and secondary tanks to harmonize with the original wavelength acting as a tickler or excitation wave and the secondary becomes an amplifier of sorts.

Prehaps the whole overheating issue is really the natural result of  gain from the primary to secondary and unlike a conventional amplifier that can be conventionally cooled the TPU's amplifier is a secondary winding of just wire!

Time to revisit our Tesla books.

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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2008, 02:24:40 AM »
Great work Jack, Jason and all!

At some point, someone please consider sending discs via snail mail. Cover your cost, by all means. Here torrents are blocked and non-negotiable. Downloading a bunch of 50 or 90 MB files would take weeks. I'm sure like many others, I have no other options.

Thanks,

John

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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2008, 02:26:49 AM »
Thanks for reminding me of the pdf. I skimmed it a month ago when someone from here emailed it.

Forgive my thinking out loud. I often do this to create a record so I don't end up in a loop!

If my ideas are yesteryear its because I am just starting to relive this a bit.

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2008, 03:05:07 AM »
Very interesting!


My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices...

This sounds like Steven but I have trouble with the theory of operation. If one believes that the frequencies are unimportant and are determined by the circumference of the device then it is not a resonant receiver.

I have a real hard time believing that there was a single integrated circuit in any of the devices or any batteries for that matter. I really think Steven is attempting to deceive the party he is communicating with. Steven was always tinkering with and or demonstrating the devices and I can't imagine him going through the hassle of changing batteries especially in the smallest unit that was 100% covered with tape. The devices were kludged together and were not serviceable as far as I could tell. You can see in one segment that Steven's fingernails were stained with black paint supporting the idea that he did all the work on the units even painting them!


"By the way, have you seen the video of the compass turning" It seems only natural that the compass would stop spinning when the lines of force exceeded the speed at which the compass's needle could spin.

 

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2008, 03:21:14 AM »
 :o what's that purple glow around the top perimeter and also to the right?

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2008, 03:37:50 AM »
The torrent link is down.  Is there another place to download it via torrent client?

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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2008, 03:39:04 AM »

Thanks EM...that witness account certainly sets my mind at rest.

Dr. Schinzinger was very compelling with his detail...even without knowing his background or credentials.

With all the minds here with the same objective, I am very optimistic at this point.

Interesting how the juice from one unit fried an air conditioner fuse...that is exactly what the unit should be sitting in front of, as it requires cooling.

Regards...