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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 458039 times)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #165 on: April 17, 2008, 07:12:06 AM »
There are so many TPUs and each one is using a different method.

Stefan has a good idea about the OTPU but I do not see the white wire going all the way around yet.
Eldarion is doing good obs on the FTPU.
And if EM can figure out the circuit on the OPTU that would be the cherry on the cake.

Also, on the FTPU I am seeing that the end loops with the white glue are not loops. They are pancake coils (pc) with a thin wire primary over them (ahha this could also be a bailing wire). The primary are wound again as a quadrature (4 x 10-12 turns) and would suspect it is the primary that is connected to the toroids. You can see this when the unit is turned over, you will see the rim of the wire spool ends before the pc does. The pc is under the spool rim. So both pc's are facing each other on the inside of the spool ends. Also the toroid wires come from two coils. One goes to the bottom pc, the other to the top pc.

Also on the FTPU when the tpu is up, on the other side of the toroid there are two black capacitors. You can see this when he puts his fingers behind the unit to contrast the capacitor. We can call it the Back Cap(s). The size reminds me of a 100V 10mf. EM saw a small capacitor near the front right, but what if it is a 5000 cycle oscillator or a crystal. Is that possible. This is important to know. We'll call it the EM Cap. Between the EM cap and the Back Cap, there are some other things that are really hard to to see.

I think the FTPU is the closest to the Otto and Roberto 3 stack, but with only two stacks and a 10-12 turn primary .

@JD

Is this the Hans Coler you are talking about.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #166 on: April 17, 2008, 07:35:37 AM »
Hey Stefan you forgot the coils are bifilar to cancel out the flux.
This is visible in the pictures too... it's two wires.

M.

  Why should it cancel out the flux of the control coil  and be bifilar?

Regards, Stefan.

To make the flux unidirectional.
Didn't you read the carl doc?
I can SEE two wires on many pictures yet you say it makes no sense!!!!
SUIT YOURESELF!!!!!

M.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #167 on: April 17, 2008, 07:36:24 AM »
"@JD

Is this the Hans Coler you are talking about."

Yes. I find it intriguing that Professor Schumann was asked by British Intelligence to review Coler's work and claims.

Thinking of claims...I did a patent search on Steven's patent attorneys to see if they ever filed any control related patents on behalf of anyone related to the project and none were found. Steven's claims of having filed "hundreds" of patents is not supported at the PTO or EPO as expected. Also as one who is intimately familiar with patent law I can say with all certainty that the company Steven sold his rights to are going to have a hell of a time in trying to protect this technology.

If anyone can provide any information on UEC or whatever they are called I would like to do a background on all their officers and any I.P. filed in the past.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #168 on: April 17, 2008, 01:20:59 PM »
While I have the greatest respect for the hard work done by others, I still have different opinions.
The tape reflections covering the 9v battery IMO are two common mode chokes. More on the attached.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #169 on: April 17, 2008, 02:27:56 PM »
@EM

When I grab a frame with Snagit it is mostly at 300 DPI but sometimes I will go as high as 2400 DPI (very big image file) and this helps when I zoom in to see finer objects with Corel Photo Paint. Sometimes on the grabbed image I will make changes to brightness, contrast, gamma and other effects to see if something else can jump out of the image.

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The OPTU 4 coils could be bifilar or single wound at this stage, but BEP sees both a dual and a single wire wound, and others see differently right now. We need more observation on that. Don't take it personally because at this stage, the more we can observe, the more we can then put the pieces together later.

@BEP

We need to see under the OPTU of those coil wires. When he turns it over. I had looked at those coils for hours (on the old video) and could not make out more then a single wire wound. Some of the single wire turns are closer together while others have a little space that would simply be a normal imperfection for a manually wound coil over such a rectangular disk structure. Plus when the two lights are on, this increases the shadow effect over the wires to see it better.

About the piezo switch idea, are there standard components like you mention that you can post here.

@JD

I brought up the 100 patents thing recently. I mean why would he confirm on a video used for attracting investors, that there are over 100 patents on the TPU, when it is obviously very easy for anyone to verify this. Weird.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #170 on: April 17, 2008, 02:39:51 PM »
I brought up the 100 patents thing recently. I mean why would he confirm on a video used for attracting investors, that there are over 100 patents on the TPU, when it is obviously very easy for anyone to verify this. Weird.
Maybe SM went nuts from his TPUs? It's such a beliefs explosion if this thing works.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #171 on: April 17, 2008, 02:43:55 PM »
About the piezo switch idea, are there standard components like you mention that you can post here.

Will this help? http://www.piezoswitch.com/about_switches.html

You may glue a piece of permanent magnet on the switch and I guess it will work as a finger when in magnetic field. Note that from the specs piezo switch outputs rectangular pulse. No mechanical wearing.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #172 on: April 17, 2008, 04:04:51 PM »
hello all

just read the thred for the first time ...

i dont need those vids i think a few tesla pattends speeks volumes on how this works....

@joe  ;)    im pretty sure you hammered it this time  :)   

but as i have been saying all along  this is the device of 1000 styles...

no i have not made a working unit   how ever  i think repelling magnets play the biggest role  ;)
 
@ supersam what are you shoping for?

@whatsup

dont those cores in the coler convertor look like bar magnets arranged in an alternating fashion and biased to the coils from north to south  hummm   i have a unit started in a build a little diffrent but close to the same idea also i was going looking for some bar magnets too today  to reproduce that coil

but my problem is i am working on way too many things .....

just finished my 6 channel audio bucket it will be a dubble heterodyine smasher  it consists of 6 speekers 3 2 channel 4ohm car audio amps and 3 laptops just like audio henge but 2x


i might post some pics   im not sure yet

does anyone know of a calculator to calucluate resistance of a wire for the length and gage of that wire ??  i was thinking of useing 28ga solid but i want my coil to have a resisitance of 4ohms so just wondering ....   how long  the wire should be   or

if i have a wire 132' long what gage of wire would i need to have a 4ohm total resistance on that length of wire ?

yea well im no EE so for me to figure this out on my own is a waste of time

ist

« Last Edit: April 17, 2008, 04:28:49 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #173 on: April 17, 2008, 04:16:06 PM »
good observations BEP,  the twin lead wire certainly seems split towards the left side.  Just because there is a bifilar winding on there, doesn't mean much, he probably used whatever wire he had laying around, and it certainly makes the winding process much faster, with each loop you get two wires, so later you can hook them in series, or maybe the bifilar nature is important, we'll see...

I did a rough measurement of the "9V battery" I see and it might seem slightly smaller (I compared with his fingers and my fingers and a 9V battery)   It sure looks like it though, and he admits there is a 9V battery there.  I'm not trying to say it's a fake device by any means,  I was just glad to identify the objects down there, it buged me for so long no knowing what it was.

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Yes. I find it intriguing that Professor Schumann was asked by British Intelligence to review Coler's work and claims.

very interesting, I did not know that. Perhaps we should explore this angle some more.

@wattsup

thanks, I'll try Snagit, see how it works. I was using Nero to view the VOBs and apparently it's a 30 day free trial of sorts on some of the functionality, and the capture function was so mysterious, they went to great lengts to prevent people from even using the Printscreen function. I'm just looking for a very good piece of software that I can buy, I want ease of use and lots of functionality (and a resonable price too)   :)

EM
« Last Edit: April 17, 2008, 06:33:24 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #174 on: April 17, 2008, 04:37:24 PM »
good observations BEP,  the twin lead wire certainly seems split towards the left side.  Just because there is a bifilar winding on there, doesn't mean much, he probably used whatever wire he had laying around, and it certainly makes the winding process much faster, with each loop you get two wires, so later you can hook them in series, or maybe the bifilar nature is important, we'll see...



The two secondary wires are not both closed loop at the same time.  One is open so that it will be invisible to the magnetic field while the other receives the incoming magnetic flux from the primary's pulse.  They switch for the field's collapse so the wire that was invisible receives the collapsing magnetic field and the first wire is now invisible to the system.

Like a transformer, only the AC current is split into two kicks on two seperate wires giving a DC flow.  Batteries/Caps pulse into a primary with DC, it gets run through the tranformer process and spits out two DC pulses where ever you need them to go.  The pulse 'slaps' timed with the recycled pulse will keep the momentum up.  I'll even say that a set of secondaries also function as primaries, firing in rotation around the ring.  Eight wires: 4 primary/secondary and 4 secondary.  One set goes to output, the other get routed internally to batteries/caps/primaries.

Those torroid coils with the white wire running through them are switching mechanisms, the wire is picking up the opening and closing of current and sending the two pulses to a "galvanometer" switch controller.

Not all the secondary wires in the system are closed at the same time, this would cause excess resistance.  Keep in mind their direction of turn and their current travel in relation to magnetic flux.

SM said it take more energy to accelerate a car to 60 mph than it does to maintain the speed...
« Last Edit: April 17, 2008, 05:01:25 PM by Spoodily »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #175 on: April 17, 2008, 05:11:28 PM »
The two secondary wires are not both closed loop at the same time.  One is open so that it will be invisible to the magnetic field while the other receives the incoming magnetic flux from the primary's pulse.  They switch for the field's collapse so the wire that was invisible receives the collapsing magnetic field and the first wire is now invisible to the system.

Like a transformer, only the AC current is split into two kicks on two seperate wires giving a DC flow.  Batteries/Caps pulse into a primary with DC, it gets run through the tranformer process and spits out two DC pulses where ever you need them to go.  The pulse 'slaps' timed with the recycled pulse will keep the momentum up.  I'll even say that a set of secondaries also function as primaries, firing in rotation around the ring.  Eight wires: 4 primary/secondary and 4 secondary.  One set goes to output, the other get routed internally to batteries/caps/primaries.

Those torroid coils with the white wire running through them are switching mechanisms, the wire is picking up the opening and closing of current and sending the two pulses to a "galvanometer" switch controller.

Not all the secondary wires in the system are closed at the same time, this would cause excess resistance.  Keep in mind their direction of turn and their current travel in relation to magnetic flux.

SM said it take more energy to accelerate a car to 60 mph than it does to maintain the speed...

This is interesting.  Which wires would you consider as the primary and which as the secondary?

The reason I ask is that it has been proven over and over that there is no magnetic coupling between what has been called the "collector" and the 90-degree coils wound over them.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #176 on: April 17, 2008, 05:48:15 PM »
The two secondary coils are not both closed loop at the same time.  One is open so that it will be invisible to the magnetic field while the other receives the incoming magnetic flux from the primary's pulse.  They switch for the field's collapse so the wire that was invisible receives the collapsing magnetic field and the first wire is now invisible to the system.

Like a transformer, only the AC current is split into two kicks on two seperate wires giving a DC flow.  Batteries/Caps pulse into a primary with DC, it gets run through the tranformer process and spits out two DC pulses where ever you need them to go.  The pulse 'slaps' timed with the recycled pulse will keep the momentum up.  I'll even say that a set of secondaries also function as primaries, firing in rotation around the ring.  Eight wires: 4 primary/secondary and 4 secondary.  One set goes to output, the other get routed internally to batteries/caps/primaries.

Those torroid coils with the white wire running through them are switching mechanisms, the wire is picking up the opening and closing of current and sending the two pulses to a "galvanometer" switch controller.

Not all the secondary wires in the system are closed at the same time, this would cause excess resistance.  Keep in mind their direction of turn and their current travel in relation to magnetic flux.

SM said it take more energy to accelerate a car to 60 mph than it does to maintain the speed...

This is interesting.  Which wires would you consider as the primary and which as the secondary?

The reason I ask is that it has been proven over and over that there is no magnetic coupling between what has been called the "collector" and the 90-degree coils wound over them.



There is no "collector" run under any wires.  There are two secondaries that receive the expansion and collapse of the magnetic field produced by the pulse of a primary.  The two secondary coils are not closed loop at the same time, even though they look bifilar wound or run together.  One receives the increasing field, one receives the collapse.  This normally would be recieved on the same coil in a transformer but we don't want AC current, we want DC.  Collecting a pulse of current that is complimentary to the pulse about to be sent would be beneficial.

The four white wires seem to lead to and from one main location, only two of the wires actually lead out from the 'hub'.  The white wires are not for collecting energy, just guiding its flow.  The terminal is a switching station.  Inside that little 'speaker' thing people keep talking about is probably a torroid device like in the other models.  It acts like a galvanometer to control the switching between the secondaries and timing the firing of the primaries.

This is my opinion on it, I'm just sharing what I've been thinking about recently.  I have no gear to test anything, so theory is all I have.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #177 on: April 17, 2008, 07:09:23 PM »
In the OTPU, I think I saw the torrid in one of the legs covered with some tape or cardboard. need to see if I can do a screen grab.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #178 on: April 17, 2008, 07:26:04 PM »
Regarding HV vibrators, I came across the following links:
http://www.electronixandmore.com/project/1.html
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9A00E2DD133FE233A2575AC1A96E9C946496D6CF&oref=slogin

Probably far OT as most of my posts but then perhaps not...  ::)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #179 on: April 17, 2008, 07:49:47 PM »
after close examination of the LTPU (large one) and the FTPU  (first one)  and some logical reasoning, I deduced the following schematic, (to couple the AC from the COLLECTOR loop to the CONTROL helix coil, and have the DC available at the output, the other capacitor blocks DC so the helix won't short out since the phenomena that creates the DC would also affect the helix most likely, i.e. a rotational magnetic field of sorts)

Note:  this is just half the symetery, obviously there are two stacks, however, SM did say that the multiple collector coils can be hooked in PARALLEL, or SERIES, to increase the current or voltage capability, respectively. What puzzles me about the FTPU is that I don't see the 4 segments to produce a rotational mag field, (there seem to be 4 sectors, but it's just because of the black electrical tape holding down the coils to the spool, and only one shows a wire underneath it)

we have a ton of work ahead of us..

EM

P.S.  Who was that guy that produced DC at a particular frequency with a simular setup (although he lumped his coils in 3 sectors)  That was interesting since the DC showed up at a particular frequency only.