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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 456440 times)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #150 on: April 17, 2008, 03:26:18 AM »
Harti,

I still have the circuit but I would have to rewind the coil which is believe it or not the easy part compared to building and troubleshooting the circuit. But like I said I didnt see anything unusual on the inside of the core. If you can think of something that I may have forgot to try that could possible result in something substantial I could rewind the core. I saw a sinewave but when I shorted the pickup coil there was only feeble current. I believe it was less than 50 mA. I used a silicon steel torroid which had a outer diameter of about 7 inches. Each coil was 145 turns and each pair was arranged in a bucking arrangement so that when ther were energized there was a external magnetic field which could be felt if you placed a magnet in the center with one of the coils energized with about 3 amps.

Chad

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #151 on: April 17, 2008, 03:29:34 AM »
I just reviewed the new tape from Jack again several more times.
At showing the OpenTPU
at 21:19 minutes into the MPEG2 file ( I converted VOB1 and VOB2 to MPEG2 and appended them
via VOB2MPG)
SM says:
Quote:
"Again there is very very little to this device.
Wire is very important..
Coil operation in here..."
And as he says this he points with his finger to a transformer
kind of device below the loudspeaker type connector
and one can see some kind of transfomer with 2 white colored tape windings and
dark grey ferrite or iron cores.
So there is definately a transformer or 2 chokes ontop of each other down there.

This is then probably a simular transformer or 2 choke coils as he uses
in the smaller first device which he presented ontop of his videorecorder equipment.

Too bad I am not at home right now, otherwise I would
just try to pulse 4 control coils via a shiftregister and see
how much DC component voltage I would get at the output coil
and how much current I could draw from it.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #152 on: April 17, 2008, 03:34:15 AM »
JD,

Thank you for giving us some fresh information. It has been an intense and frustrating ride for the tpu crew everyone loves. I hope you realize all the years that have gone by and some how they are all still here, working on the tpu. I believe, in a sort of spiritual way, that JD's showing up to help us is a congratulations to our fortitude in hanging on over the years. Whatever it is that provided the steps we walk on, I thank you, too.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #153 on: April 17, 2008, 03:36:15 AM »
Harti,

I still have the circuit but I would have to rewind the coil which is believe it or not the easy part compared to building and troubleshooting the circuit. But like I said I didnt see anything unusual on the inside of the core. If you can think of something that I may have forgot to try that could possible result in something substantial I could rewind the core. I saw a sinewave but when I shorted the pickup coil there was only feeble current. I believe it was less than 50 mA. I used a silicon steel torroid which had a outer diameter of about 7 inches. Each coil was 145 turns and each pair was arranged in a bucking arrangement so that when ther were energized there was a external magnetic field which could be felt if you placed a magnet in the center with one of the coils energized with about 3 amps.

Chad

Chad,
Did you get the field to rotate ?

The OpenTPU does not have any iron or silicon steel in its coils or cores,
only inside the transformer( or chokes) to make the phase shift
between the coils to get a rotational magnet field.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #154 on: April 17, 2008, 03:40:33 AM »
"Where to start .. just my thoughts ...

Looking at many of the good minds and some that a bit excentric ... Beardin, Meyers, Hamel, Bendini, Steven Marks, Dr. Stiffler, Boyce ... and I know that I have missed a few .. there does to be some commenality in all to some degree or related ... I believe in combining them together can get to the picture."

I would move Hans Coler to the top of the list.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #155 on: April 17, 2008, 03:41:39 AM »
Stefan,

If you mean getting the field to rotate means getting the to 90 degree phase lag signals to combine and form one sine wave I was able to do that. Well, the kinda did that on their own as long as you had the coils wound properly. The problem was that I still had the problem of inductive reactance so not much current was able to be fed into the coils as frequency increased. I also tried resonating the coils with appropriate sized capacitors which resulted in more voltage being felt by the pickup coil, but when I shorted the pickup coil it started to be reflected back to the input coils as a voltage drop.

Chad

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #156 on: April 17, 2008, 03:42:37 AM »
I need the tape so I can wrap it all up and fuck with people for a couple of years.

You might try 3M #33. It was pretty common back then but I think it will screw with your infra-red  :)
Just a couple of wraps and it could keep a high electrical charge from biting you. Something you would think about if you 'got bit' a few times. The #33+ also tolerated heat very well.

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« Reply #157 on: April 17, 2008, 03:51:44 AM »
Stefan,

If you mean getting the field to rotate means getting the to 90 degree phase lag signals to combine and form one sine wave I was able to do that. Well, the kinda did that on their own as long as you had the coils wound properly. The problem was that I still had the problem of inductive reactance so not much current was able to be fed into the coils as frequency increased. I also tried resonating the coils with appropriate sized capacitors which resulted in more voltage being felt by the pickup coil, but when I shorted the pickup coil it started to be reflected back to the input coils as a voltage drop.

Chad

Chad,
again the main priciple ofthe OpenTPU I believe is this one:

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4486.0;attach=22558)

The white single turn output coil wire just has about 50 MilliOhms DC resistance
and is just a maybe 2 to 4 mm diameter isolated stranded copper wire.

There are 4 control coils wound around it with about 10 to 12 windings.
These 4 control coils are 90 degrees phase shifted each  pair and arranged this way via a transformer or 2 chokes
at the buttom of the device, so that the Lenz law is violated and the 4 coils oscillate with about 5 to 6 Khz
which creates a rotational magnet field which induces DC voltage into the single turn white wire
output coil.

The 2 magnets are only there to confuse the people and to switch on some
reed relays inside the device that turn on the connection to the output connectors.

It is really a very simple device and we only still have to find out,
how to wire the 4 control coils together via a transformer , caps or chokes
and use positive feedback from the output coil to keep the oscillations going
and keep the magnet field rotating inside the 4 control coils.

This is why I want to try next to pulse 4 control coils via a shiftregister
to see, how much DC voltage and amperage one could get out of
the single wire output coil.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #158 on: April 17, 2008, 04:03:02 AM »
Stefan,

The main thing I was hoping would happen with the rotating field coil was that inductive reactance would be canceled out so that I could have a strong magnetic field rotating on the inside. But the impedance was the same as if I just had 2 standard inductors carrying a sine wave so the more I increased frequency to speed up the field the less current was able to flow through the coils and the weaker the magnetic field became. One other thing I was hoping was that if I used a pickup coil in the center of the core I would be able to sidestep lenz law or render it impotent but unfortunately as I shorted the pickup coil the voltage dropped on the input coils. I had 2 oscilloscopes hooked up so I could watch all of the signals simultaneously. On another note I used to think for a long time that the permanent magnets were a ruse and simply controlling a reed switch or even worse serve no purpose at all other than to misdirect but now I am exploring some other options with static magnetic fields. There may be something to that after all but I dont want to waste peoples time with more theories. We have so many to go with already.

Chad

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #159 on: April 17, 2008, 05:03:07 AM »
Chad, in your example there is surely a backreaction from your center output coil to
the driver coils.

But in the OpenTPU case we have 4 control coils wound perpendicular (90 degrees)
to the output coil and thus there is no back reaction.

The output current from the single turn output coil does not affect the drive power for the control coils !
That is the nice thing about it !
;)

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« Reply #160 on: April 17, 2008, 05:22:35 AM »

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The output current from the single turn output coil does not affect the drive power for the control coils !
That is the nice thing about it !
;)

So then, if a current - any current - on the single turn output coil (white wire inside the toroid, pic above) is the result of a pulse or a series of pulses on the toroid (control coils orange/yellow color), it  means that this is OU. Right?

This is then the basic operational principle of a device such as the TPU, correct?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #161 on: April 17, 2008, 05:34:28 AM »
Hi Stefan,

I have tried that configuration a while back.  Unfortunately, there is no power available on the Litz wire--for the very same reason that there would be no back-EMF in that configuration.

@all,

Look at Tesla patent number 0413353.  The output of the TPU is pulsating DC.  I think SM rectified AC to get that DC, just not with a diode.

All of the devices have at least one ferrite-cored toroid somewhere in the circuit.  I will confine my comments to the FTPU, as that is the only one I have been studying with the new videos.

That toroid is wound with two coils, one covering one half and one covering the other half.  Notice where the magnet goes--in such a position as to bias the core, possibly even saturate it.  Look at figure 6 of the Tesla patent, and also the description in the patent.

That particular winding configuration on the toroid is common in older power supplies.  They usually come with a small plastic divider that separates the two coils and runs through the middle of the core--you can see this divider if you look closely, it is white or light grey.

In all the TPUs there is a white wire going through the center of the toroid(s)--does anyone have some ideas on the function of that wire?  There also appears to be a component (possibly a reed switch) where the magnet is positioned.

See http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4486.msg90045.html#msg90045 for a picture in which you can see all of what I am describing.

Hopefully this will help things along; now we just need to figure out how the large wire loop is integrated with the little bit of remaining circuitry on top of the FTPU...

Eldarion

EDIT: I just realized something.  You know that fluctuating voltage that appears on the meter when the device has no magnet?  If the magnet was removed, the output might end up being AC, and the DC meter would not know how to interpret that, hence the wild fluctuations.  The AC might be what is generated by the rest of the circuitry up top.  I still do not understand where the energy amplification would take place, however.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #162 on: April 17, 2008, 05:49:57 AM »
More information on the collector wire...

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« Reply #163 on: April 17, 2008, 05:51:15 AM »
Ok, I closely inspected the video and played a segment over and over and seeing the motion I realized the 3D geometry of the little unknown object below the OTPU,  FINALLY !!!!    that thing bugged me for so long.

EM

P.S.  Can somebody suggest a good program to capture frames  INTERLACED?  I want to retain as much of the information as possible so I can process it later with MatLab, and other software, and I don't want to convert to mpeg or anything else, just capture frames from the VOB file.  I'm afraid of loosing info or blurring due to the codecs, etc..

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« Reply #164 on: April 17, 2008, 06:02:15 AM »
@EMDevices,
So that's where the battery was actually hidden! :D  So what's in the hollow leg then I wonder?

@all,
Attached is yet another observation on the FTPU...

EDIT: Just realized it is impossible to read my text at this high of a compression level, so here is the hard to read part:

"The other end of the upper collector then goes to the circuitry on top.

So the + output seems to go directly to the circuitry.

Also, that is the function of the mysterious white wire going through the toroid--connect one end of the lower collector to the circuitry."