Well, sorry if that kind of schematic was tested and confirmed non-working, but what about such ultra-simple coil?

You just need a single ferromagnetic core which is very slow - 3kHz frequency response only. This site http://www.arnoldmagnetics.com/products/powder/powder_catalogs.htm lists some Q specs. Molypermalloy powder core of o.d.1.350, i.d.0.920, ht.0.350 (173mu 205mu) looks to be a good candidate.

The coil is two-strand lamp wire compactly wound in a single layer around the core. Pulses are saw-tooth, or as a more simple variant, square wave - in the latter case a varying duty cycle square wave can be very beneficial. A single generator is needed only. Frequency and duty cycle should be selected as appropriate.

This should not create a rotating magnetic field (the field whose intensity oscillates on the circumference), but it should support magnetic energy field of the core via pulses while pulses themselves create 'DC acoustic field' that adds some OU energy to the magnetic field. This energy can then be routed to the load.

Since the core is slow, there is no need to pulse it too fast - just pulse it fast enough so that its magnetic field only rises, preferrably up to the saturation point.

If rotating magnetic field is a requirement, this apporach won't work.

Aleks, this begs a question from me, and we may need EE input, but Wouldn't a single coil
be able to produce a rotation in the flux if pulsed at the correct Freq.

There will be "rotation" only in a sense of magnetic field "refresh" with each pulse. However, this refreshing with each pulse goes at speed of light around core. Whereas rotating magnetic field is actually an oscillation of magnetic field energy at each control coil point. So, this oscillation can be made slow.

Core memory was discarded LONG before the internet was started

I think you are referring to magnetic domain memory. In this sense the magnetic core being pulsed "saves" the characteristics of the pulse and electron flow that took place. But I do not think this has any relevance here.

P.S.  Which kind of schematic were you referring to?  I am afraid I can't keep up with all the
info here and would like to add this to my "Failure" list so I don't repeat the same mistakes
that others have already done the work to find.  TIA.  (Thanks in advance?)

I was referring schematic I've posted myself - that simple drawing with "pulses" and "load" parts.

I am referring to Actual Core Memory.

Permanent magnet chargers are in use even now. It's like having one big domain instead of billions of smaller ones.

@everyone

Just an update for all on my thinking, with explanations.

Concerning the rotating field:

About the TPU, we know much, yet little is HARD data. We know, for instance, that a rotating field is necessary to it's inherent operation. Yet, that is ALL we know concerning said field. We have made plausible guesses, but remember that is ALL they are... Plausible, or probable, not proven hard data.

Keep in mind that in anything we desire to accomplish, there is always several ways to accomplish the same goal.

How can fields be made to rotate? Rotating fields are in common use today, mainly in polyphase power (motor) or generating (alternators/AC power production) applications. Find out why they rotate, then imitate already proven technology if necessary. Understand that they cannot make a motor spin >inductively< with only one frequency at single phase, and that is the reason for starting capacitors etc.....(I refer specifically to AC induction motors, not DC or "Other") By the "etc.", I am thinking specifically of those little AC fan motors, you know the ones I am talking about, with one big fine wire single phase coil, an iron/poured aluminum cage rotor, and out in the middle of knowwhere, a 1 1/2 turn very heavy gauge wire soldered to itself???

(BIG HINT, think about what you have seen on the small motor, and go examine the TPU pics in JDO's newest thread, and see if you notice what I noticed.)

What WE are facing with the TPU is a rotorless induction motor, where the fields itself are rotating. Think of it in those terms. Otto, you stand vindicated in part, as the controls may well need phased AC.

However, I still think the AC component is developed inductively from the input.

Paul Andrulis

(BIG HINT, think about what you have seen on the small motor, and go examine the TPU pics in JDO's newest thread, and see if you notice what I noticed.)

What WE are facing with the TPU is a rotorless induction motor, where the fields itself are rotating. Think of it in those terms. Otto, you stand vindicated in part, as the controls may well need phased AC.

This has been my exact line of thinking for a while now--I can say with 90% certainty that you will not see these effects with a ferrite core (ran LOTS of tests, nothing interesting happened).  Can you elaborate on what you saw in the pictures?  It might help us converge on a solution faster.

Eldarion

I can say with 90% certainty that you will not see these effects with a ferrite core (ran LOTS of tests, nothing interesting happened)

Do you have frequency response details about ferrite cores you've used? The reason I'm asking is that in my opinion core should be accumulating flux with each pulse. If the ferrite core is fast, flux won't be accumulating. What I'm looking for is back EMF. It is this "background" EMF that gains OU energy with each new pulse. If there is no background EMF energy in the core left from previous pulse, there is nothing present that can benefit from gravity force. Of course, you should not forget about diode placed on the pulse circuit so that back EMF does not flow into the pulse circuitry. In this scenario the only way for the energy to go is though the parallel wound load wire.

Well, I do not mean use ferrite core. Ferromagnetic rather (e.g. iron). Permanent magnet may work as well, but this is not a requirement as much as frequency response of magnetic flux induction.

I set up my iron powder core

As I've said, the performance should depend on the induction frequency response of this core. I think the basis of gaining OU energy is to have an "energy cloud" around TPU. If core is too fast, all induced energy will leave the core before the next pulse arrives. Ever increasing and saturating flux is a requirement here I think.

I hope your core was fast and that's why your testing failed to give any positive results. If not, well, then we should look for another theory.

Questions have been asked about phasing the signal, for example through a crossover system. This is done so that the signals reach a driver in a speaker "out of phase" with each other to the proper degree, so that a flat baffle can be used and yet have the sound reach you at the proper phasing  point so that it is extremely clear. (High-end audio speakers using flat baffle.) It is NOT generally done through the crossover. The crossover splits the single signal containing the full spectrum of audial frequencies into ranges, (Low pass, Bandpass, and High pass) then sends each signal to its respective driver.  The phasing is done through >Phasing Coils<. One wavelength (middle frequency of each frequency range to be Phased) is calculated, then a coil wound from a wire of the proper length to the desired fraction, corresponding directly to a degree of phasing is used for each driver.

How can this be used for single signal phasing in a TPU?

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/images/wirephasing.jpg)

Explanation 1.

One full wavelength is shown. Below it are three separate conductors of lengths matching 1/4, 1/2, and 1 wavelength. Notice the position of each, in respect with the wavelength above it. Electricity travels at the same speed through each, so it will only traverse 1/4 of a wavelength, before exiting the first wire, 1/2 for the second, etc..

Explanation 2.

If the three wires are connected to the same input, then the signal will exit each wire at a different point in its cycle. For instance, we will use an arbitrary number just to demonstrate the point. Say for the sake of argument that it took the electricity 1 second to flow through the 1 wavelength wire, then the half wavelength wire, being half the length, would exit after only 1/2 of a second, and the 1/4 wavelength wire a blazing 1/4 second.

What this means is that the signal out of each would be then out of phase with the others. Remember that one full wave represents 360 degrees of phase (one full cycle). If the signal is applied as to the input point in the pic, it will exit at 1/4 wavelength, or 90 degrees out of phase with the same signal measured at the input point. The 1/2 wavelength wire will be 180 degrees out of phase, and the full wavelength wire would be exactly in phase.

This technique would work for 90 degree phasing (2 or 4 control coils opposing each other).

But what about 120 degree phasing for three coil setups? EASY, as it is 1/3 wavelength! One fu1/3, one 2/3, and one full wavelength! (120, 240 and 360 degrees respectively.)

Paul Andrulis