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Author Topic: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)  (Read 338509 times)

pauldude000

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #675 on: July 28, 2008, 11:17:18 PM »
@everyone

Electrical power is a function of the ratio of amperage and voltage. A bulb will glow brighter with a variation of POWER, in that after it is glowing (minimum voltage/amperage needs met), then an increase of voltage will cause it to brighten, since the applied POWER increases. The amperage is always going to be lower if the voltage is lower.

P=IV (The power increases no matter which changes, as it is determined by amperage times voltage.)

Let me use three examples based upon 2 premises which is ohms law V=IR, and that a 75w bulb is rated at 75w@120vAC which means a 75w bulb has a very specific resistance.

Let us break the bulbs characteristics down:

Approx. Amperage @ 120V = .625A  (I =P/V or I=75/120)

Approx. Resistance = 120 Ohms (R=I/V  or R=120/.625)

This means it is equivalent to a 120 Ohm resistor. Now, the amount of light is neither measured by the manufacturer in watts, voltage, or amperage. It is measured in lumens, and varies at the same wattage bulb from manufacturer to manufacturer. The wattage rating of the bulb tells you how much energy the bulb "consumes" at the design voltage. The maximum number lumens from this bulb will be the same or lower, since higher power levels will probably blow the bulb. At higher wattages, it becomes a fuse which blows. Below this point  light is indicated by the wattage indirectly, as the lower wattage will not heat up the filament properly as designed.

No matter how you look at it, the amperage at lower voltages will never be as great as the design voltage, as this is directly proportionate to the resistance. Therefore the power available is always going to be lower as well.

Now, say you apply 32v... the MAXIMUM amperage is I = V/R or .27 amps. That means that no matter the available amperage applied, at 32v ONLY .27 A WILL flow through this bulb. You now see that if a lower voltage is applied, a lower amperage flows, no matter what amperage is applied. Amperage in any circuit is dependent upon the applied voltage, and the resistance of the circuit.

This principle applies to any and all circuits, whether we are talking inductive, resonant, etc. etc. etc. (Actually, in these circuits even more things come to bear such as impedance, reactance and reluctance)

NOW WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE?

The ONLY TWO MEANS of fluctuating the amperage, is with a fluctuation of resistance (which I dont even know if it is possible realistically), or to fluctuate the VOLTAGE. (I=V/R)

With a fluctuation of voltage across a given circuit resistance, comes a fluctuation in amperage.

So, whether we are talking amperage "kicks" (spikes), then we should look specifically for voltage "kicks" or "spikes".....


Amperage by itself cannot "spike" OR "kick" without a corresponding increase of voltage.

Paul Andrulis
 

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #676 on: July 28, 2008, 11:39:48 PM »
Amperage by itself cannot "spike" OR "kick" without a corresponding increase of voltage.

Hence the use of the oscope.  "Current probes" are available to convert current readings to voltage for viewing on the oscope.

Attached is a modified image of the earlier diagram for seeing the effect.

Basically, you pulse the two coils at their resonant freq with square waves (0 to 20v or more) - then adjust the iron length until you see "little green men" on the scope - aka fluttery spiky stuff.

So, wind 'em up and put yer scopes in x-y mode - yee-haw!

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #677 on: July 28, 2008, 11:59:24 PM »
Hence the use of the oscope.  "Current probes" are available to convert current readings to voltage for viewing on the oscope.

Attached is a modified image of the earlier diagram for seeing the effect.

Basically, you pulse the two coils at their resonant freq with square waves (0 to 20v or more) - then adjust the iron length until you see "little green men" on the scope - aka fluttery spiky stuff.

So, wind 'em up and put yer scopes in x-y mode - yee-haw!

Hi G,

Thanks for posting that!  I was at work and didn't have access to it!

@Poynt99
Grumpy's posted diagram shows where to put the scope.  And keep the equipment away from both the iron coil and the bifilar coil.

@ All,
What else can be said?  LOL  Yee-haw!  (I like that G, It is the Texas cry!  :)  )

Cheers,

Bruce



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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #678 on: July 29, 2008, 12:08:25 AM »
what else can be said .... lol

GET ER DONE ALREADY ;D

EH G

when you want to talk about "G" ?  and where the pattend for "g" is  ;)

IST

hers a hint read 0-zone pattent ::)  been saying that a while now... 

read all associated material ..... study it BLOW UP THE SCHEMS IF YOU HAVE TO!!!!!!!  LOL!!!   400% DID IT 4 ME ;D

EH GK?

then you see the "G"

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #679 on: July 29, 2008, 01:12:44 AM »
@grumpy,

could you post a pic of your kick scope shot please.

thanks

oh, and did you mean A-B mode or XY mode for the scope?

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #680 on: July 29, 2008, 01:20:00 AM »
So I will take 1 of my rat shack bifilars and slap an unwound iron wire bundle in between.
But I cut my last bundle up. Got to go get a new one.

--giantkiller.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #681 on: July 29, 2008, 01:28:32 AM »
@grumpy,

could you post a pic of your kick scope shot please.

thanks

oh, and did you mean A-B mode or XY mode for the scope?

Posting that would be "proof", but I've been thinking about it.

XY mode to find the resonant freq of the coil and then back to normal when you trim the iron wire.  This was for anyone who is actually going to do this experiment.  I'll probably use a DIP meter.  Anyone who is rusty on finding the resonant frequency or has never done it, instructions should be in your oscope manual.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #682 on: July 29, 2008, 01:33:40 AM »
Posting that would be "proof", but I've been thinking about it.

XY mode to find the resonant freq of the coil and then back to normal when you trim the iron wire.  This was for anyone who is actually going to do this experiment.  I'll probably use a DIP meter.  Anyone who is rusty on finding the resonant frequency or has never done it, instructions should be in your oscope manual.

it would probably get a lot more people trying the spherics kick coil if you did post it. is that what you used?

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #683 on: July 29, 2008, 01:59:20 AM »
it would probably get a lot more people trying the spherics kick coil if you did post it. is that what you used?

This is one way.  Like I said before, there are many way just as there are many ways to create a magnetic field or electrostatic field.  I've talked at great length about the tempic field, shock waves in the dielectric - and no one even tries.

I mentioned the Hubbard way, but no one was interested in that except GK.  I did get my two Hub test coils wound, my Ed Gray rod set up, and a bench cleaned off the other day.

I tell you what, I'll walk through this experiment - fresh wound coil, pics, and such, anyone who has been participating on this thread that does not attempt this experiment - can stay in their damn Matrix - I'm done with them.  Time to squeeze one off or get off the pot. 

Oh, and I do not want to hear one single word of "alternative explanations", conventional electrodynamics explanations, and all that crap.  You yank the chain of the tempic field and it barks - that simple.  You pull it's tail and it bites your head off.  Simple enough?

I'm very busy working for the next few days, but I'll inch along each day until the weekend.

I know several others know what this looks like, if they want to share, then by all means do so.

G

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #684 on: July 29, 2008, 02:07:53 AM »
looking forward to seeing your schematic and scope shots ;)

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #685 on: July 29, 2008, 02:08:26 AM »
where is that other guy that keeps playing peek a boo?

lol

you know who u r

join in ...   bro ...

you got this licked i know it...    8)

there is so much info on this site bout free engery most have no idea where to look it is everwhere!!

oh welll  so b it

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #686 on: July 29, 2008, 03:38:14 AM »
   I believe the delay coil absorbs the hi freq pulse energy so a voltage gradient is set up between the bifilar elements.  This is all well and good for seeing the kick.  But not so good for concentrating the the kick invested energy.   Series connecting the two bifilar ends will setup a higher turn to turn capacitance for the energy input.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #687 on: July 29, 2008, 04:13:51 AM »
@sparks,
On my Hubbard the 4 bifilars are terminated that way. I drive them in series and in parallel with the center. My pulses aren't correct tho. gotta fix it next session. Like EMD said 'it could also be the distance'. I can change that too. And also change to air core.

Not mine but the red one is output and two greens are input. They are setup as single channel inputs. Could push towards the center. A similar twist to the ozone NT568177. This pic looks iron/ferrorite core

--giantkiller.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #688 on: July 29, 2008, 04:42:08 AM »
   I believe the delay coil absorbs the hi freq pulse energy so a voltage gradient is set up between the bifilar elements.  This is all well and good for seeing the kick.  But not so good for concentrating the the kick invested energy.   Series connecting the two bifilar ends will setup a higher turn to turn capacitance for the energy input.

Hi Sparks,

I have already explained in my other post how to "harvest" the kick.  A collector must be used, and the "Kick" is rotated.

@ ALL
I would STRONGLY suggest doing it Spherics way, before changing anything.  After you can produce the kick, change what you want.  I am sure a couple of brilliant folks here, will come up with a much better way of harvesting the kick, then Steven Mark did, but for the rest of us who are not that brilliant, we might just rotate and collect it. ;)

Put away your theories, and ideas, pride, ego and arrogance, and just try the simple experiment. 

Or you can continue to play the guessing game with each other, getting nowhere. 

"The Kick Comp Poem"
"There once was a group of men,
Who dreamed of a time when,
They would know how to make the kick,
If they only knew the trick.

It turned out not to be tough,
But none would do the stuff,
For them it was too easy,
And so they thought it measly.

But then some did awake,
Realizing what's at stake,
Once they saw the kick,
That was only part of the trick.

But now they must know,
A kick was only part of the show,
For a comp field now was born,
Anguish for those who scorn.

The North always faced middle,
The Comp field then could fiddle,
An anomalous magnetic field,
Radiant Energy could now be reeled.

Three of these did rotate,
At 120 deg phase state,
Around the collector it went,
And to the collector the electrons were sent.

At a great speed they go,
Frequency's dependent on circumference, you know."

Spherics:


It appears I have been too brief in my presentation. I truly believed that there would be a group here who would be able to make the leap between the Steven Mark devices you are familiar with and the design that I showed.

Firstly although this has been mooted I am not Jack. All I will say is the interview says more about the character of Jack than it does Steven Mark. I will also add that the SM device uses rotation. I say this without doubt and Jack is wrong in saying rotation is not necessary.

I will now talk about the Steven Mark designs you have seen in the videos and the like so you will understand why my design at the start of this message works.

The SM designs all work on the same set of principles. A pulse into a coil generates an expanding magnetic field. The magnetic field comes into being by an underlying patterning of the ether. It is a cascade action on the part of the ether that causes the EFFECT of an expanding magnetic field. If you then cause a second magnetic field to expand through the same space as the already expanding magnetic field, a specific cascading action, a pattern is setup in the ether which is the EQUIVALENT of a magnetic field and has many of the characteristics of a magnetic field. By this I mean it will interact with metals, and cause the EFFECT of a current, IF the field is moving across the metal.  I will refer to this field as a COMP field from now on. But please be clear this COMP field is in addition to the expected magnetic field. This COMP field, a patterning in the ether, is dampened and effectively nulled by magnetic metals. This is why if you are using an iron core in the coils named control coils you will never get a working TPU.

No doubt this may be disconcerting to many who have fond references to baling wire, iron wire and the like. I will now digress onto the circumstance surrounding the initial eureka moment as I understand them. Audiophiles who frequent this watering-hole will no doubt have heard of QUAD ESL electrostatic speakers. An essential design element is the incoming signal is sent into, I believe, 7 or 8 progressive delay elements. These elements delay the signal by microseconds each time.

As part of experiments, associated with what would become his 3D spacial control patents, he was using these delay elements with custom made bifilar wound voice coils (i.e. air coils) and unexpectedly detected an anomalous signal on his spectrum analyser.

Steven Mark created his own delay elements using iron wire after several years of intermittent experimentation. The technique was to carefully wrap a bifilar air-coil using copper wire. The longer the length of copper the better but using identical lengths. The two coils were connected to the SAME pulse waveforms in parallel so that the magnetic field is additive NOT canceling. The delay element was added in series to only one of the coils that made up the bifilar coil. The delay coil was made from insulated iron wire wound into an air coil. An oscilloscope was connected to both COPPER coils. The setup would be pulsed with a dc offset square wave (i.e. 0 to 20V not -10 to 10V) at the resonant frequency of the bifilar coils. The tuning consisted of cutting the iron wire down in length until an unexpected pulse/signal appeared. This pulse is the kick. I will refer to these tuned bifilar coils as kick coils.

You are privy to the information that the COMP field is nulled by iron. Those who so wish may like to take some time to fully comprehend the frustrations of closely packing the delay and bifilar coils together only to find the unexpected pulse was no longer appearing!!!  This is what SM had to contend. And Jack says SM was not technical. Bunkum!!

From traditional electrical engineering view point the kick coils for a particular quantity of energy now put out the expected magnetic field but also put out the COMP field which has effects like a magnetic field. In a world that excludes the ether, these coils are overunity. If the world took into account the ether, then the coils would not be thought of as overunity.

The magnetic field is now larger than expected. All that needs to be done is to rotate this field in a circle and intercept the field with an output coil. The captured energy is greater than the input energy because of the energy apparently created by the COMP field. If you arrange all N poles of the kicker coils so that they point towards the center and pulse each coil in turn you will get a rotating magnetic field. There are many ways to create a rotating magnetic field. A secondary effect of a rotating field is the entrainment of the COMP field so that the pattern in the ether is partially additive. A big problem was the iron in the delay coils. It was found that a large solenoid fed with a DC current to produce a static magnetic field around all of the kicker coils allowed the kicker coils to be tuned with the iron delay coils in close proximity.

Intercepting only N poles of the kicker coils means you get a DC output along with a smaller induced ripple from pulsing the kicker coils.

Feedback of the output into the input was achieved using toroidal saturable inductor switches. I've copied the picture from other messages of the inductor switches. Refer to the patent for an example to see how these switches are used. Early designs used a small magnet to bias the saturable inductors.

All SM devices had small batteries to power the LC oscillators. The LC oscillators were used as control pulse currents to the saturable inductors. To start the process high voltage capacitors were step charged, this is why the coils took time to start-up! The first few pulses came from these pre-charged capacitors being switched via saturable inductors. Part of the DC output was feedback to keep the capacitors fully charged.

My design shown at the very start of this message thread eliminated the need for an iron delay coil because the pattern is set up in the ether outside of the influence of copper metal of the control coils. It directly allows the COMP field to be generated IN FREE SPACE. By placing the output toroidal coil within this free space the COMP field is intercepted. The complete lack of any magnetic materials within this design is what allows this to happen.

I do believe there are elements of information here that you will not have been aware of before. I trust this is enough to convince at least some of you to reflect and ponder more seriously on this material.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19820016542_1982016542.pdf





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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #689 on: July 29, 2008, 06:48:54 AM »
I will be absolutely and utterly shocked if anyone actual winds this coil.   So many like to talk to the talk, but they can't walk the walk - and that is the cold hard truth.  Such a waste, really.

I just peeled off 100 feet twice, 30 awg, and placed each on a small spool.  Will wind it tomorrow.  Got to find my bailing wire - have a spool hanging somewhere.  Winding loose bifilar manually sucks - as we shall see.

See how the "bots" are?  Scope shots.  Endless details.  Then if you show the goods - more BS.

Like I said earlier - I see others winding or I walk.   Stick that in yer pipes and toke on it - and get off yer asses.