SPIDER   nice build almost has that factory look  Chet PS which end do you light

This thread is like one of those Twighlight Zone episodes where the characters keep living the same day over and over.

The same questions, the same answers, and no results.

At least five different ways to see the real "kick" have been provided to this forum and no one has bothered to try any of them.

Spider's scope does not show the "kick". 

@innovation

     Don't have the patent copy here at my office but will post it later..  Tesla would discharge his "flux capacitor" into devices of high self-inductance like electric motor coils,  which as in your signature represent a high impedance to the kick's coming from the spark gap.  Flux capacitor acting as a frequency converter.  When Deforest perfected the vacuum tube  Tesla must have been overjoyed.  Hi frequency event of tempic field energy input stashed in his flux capacitor and discharged as a low frequency energy flow into his motors lightbulbs and transformer primaries, all without the use of finicky air parameters. Just a little energy input from the tempic electrical field at high frequency ending up flowing through devices of low frequency conversion.   

I have tried to impart the importance of definitions, and generally receive rebuff or rebuke.

However, I am going to break it down. First, has anyone seen what they define as "kicks" on a scope?

The reason I ask, is simple that an oscilloscope does not read amperage..... it reads voltage. Changes in measured voltage over a measured period of time, to be specific.

So, if ANYONE claims to see kicks on a scope, then a change in voltage is involved, pure and simple, or it would not register on the scope to begin with.

Now, the voltage represented on the scope does not have to be the original effect. It can be a side effect of the original effect. I say this as a sudden change in amperage causes a sudden change in voltage as well. So, a high voltage "spike" can well be caused by a sudden change in the applied current.

Now we come back to SM...

Did SM claim to see the kicks? If so on what? If on an oscilloscope, then he was looking for voltage changes.

He stated "current" kicks. This can have TWO CLOSE BUT SEPERATE MEANINGS.

1. It can mean current in the sense of amperage (they are often used synonymously)
2. It can means current in the sense of electron flow (which refers to the entire current of electricity flowing in a wire. Both Voltage and amperage.)

This is just a personal observation, but I infer from his words the second, since I believe he was using an oscilloscope to search for the effect. Being a voltage measuring device, you could never be sure that what you are viewing is a change in amperage.......


Paul Andrulis

ok bruce, i'll ask for help about the spherics stuff.

in your drawing 1, where do you scope it? A-B, A+B, A AND B, A only, B only, which one?

in your drawing 2 you've used the spherics idea and configured it for the Steven Mark version i'm guessing. the kick coils, they are 3 separate coils with their own delay coils. ok, got that. are the 3 kick coils wound as toroidal coils sharing the same toroid form, or are they pointing toward the toroid from outside of it?

it looks to me like you are pointing the 3 control (kick) coils inward toward the toroid.

i'm open to these ideas, but 3 things don't equate to what SM told/showed us:

1. the collector is poloidal, yours/spherics is toroidal
2. the control coils are toroidal around the poloidal collector, your controls are separate solenoid coils pointing inward
3. SM calls for a frequency and 2 of its harmonics. spherics calls for 1 phase-shifted frequency.

appreciate any help on these points/questions.