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Author Topic: can any of you answer this?  (Read 36850 times)

Offline redriderno22

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can any of you answer this?
« on: April 08, 2008, 03:23:09 AM »
are light and electrons the same thing?

or is it like comparing apples and oranges?

is fire a form of electrical energy?

what I'm trying to do is get a good picture of how electricity works in my head, if that makes sense?

now i think i understand the basics.

but the more i think about it the more confused i get? ??? ???

if electricity was like water in a river or a pipe it would make more sense, but from what i gather it does and does not.



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can any of you answer this?
« on: April 08, 2008, 03:23:09 AM »

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 08:58:47 AM »
lunatic fringe?

try reading this redrider,
http://amasci.com/miscon/eleca.html#light

this is good also,
http://amasci.com/pathsk2.html
i wonder if he had shrugged atlas in mind when he wrote this?

Offline redriderno22

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 05:07:35 AM »
thanks for the info!

but do they really know?

one more thing, how does gravity relate to magnetism and electricity?

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Offline redriderno22

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 05:08:57 AM »
could gravity be a form of voltage?

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Offline Scorpile

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 04:06:33 PM »
Dude, gravity is even more complicated... try to understand what you asked first, and then mess with the space time.

I have my own theory of electricity.

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 09:09:34 PM »
Howdy,
All these different forms of energy are just that, energy.  It is the frequency of the energy that makes the effect which we can sense.  DC voltage is at the bottom of the spectrum oscillating at 0 Hertz.  Your brain oscillates at several frequencies all below 10 Hertz, it is energetic.  Alternating current power is electron flows oscillating at 60 Hertz.  Aircraft power oscillates at 400 Hertz.  Radio waves manifest as energy from 9 Kilohertz to 100 Gigahertz.  Gravity is energy around 1 Terahertz.  Light manifests as energy around  1 Petahertz.  X-rays are energy around 1 Exahertz.  Gamma Rays are energy are around 10 Exahertz.  Gamma rays, x-rays, light, gravity, radio, AC power, thought and DC power are all forms of energy manifesting in different ways because they are different frequencies.

Particle physics is what you are looking for.  You want to be able to see the way electrons move and interact with the ethers.  This can be done, but you can't use your eyes.  You have to use your mind to "see" subatomic particles interact.  Like the way the odd shaped electrons move through the etheric "sea" and leave a wake in their path.  Electrons sort of look like an ice cream cone.  The leading edge is a spiraled cone, each one unique.  The trailing edge is a half sphere.  When they are pushed through the ethers they spin because of the spiraled cone on the front.  They leave a cone shaped wake in the ethers in their path.

Be careful with this information, you'll shoot your eye out, kid!

Blessed Be Brother...
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Offline zerotensor

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 10:22:43 PM »
Electrons are tiny black holes with toroidal event horizons.
They do not decay, because the geodesics on the horizon are closed loops that thread the aperture.  The equations of GR insist that these loops remain closed.
"Spin" is the combination of toroidal and poloidal momenta in toroidal spacetime.
Spin twists-up the geometry of spacetime outside the horizon.  This "twist", or "helicity", is the electromagnetic field.  Specifically, the helicity of spacetime at some point is identified with the magnetic vector potential there.
From an accelerated reference frame, the twisted spacetime behind the electron appears distorted in a regular way.  The distortion is a regular wave pattern with a wavelength that is inversely proportional to the magnitude of the acceleration.  This is a picture of an electron being accelerated by a wave-train of light.  (or, equivalently, an electron radiating a train of photons as it accelerates in an external electric field).  From an inertial frame, the light appears to move at velocity c.

So there you have it.  Electrons are little knots in space which twist up the space in their neighborhood, and light is the regular wave pattern in the helical spacetime that results when an electron is accelerated.  All described using general relativity, so there's your gravity connection.



« Last Edit: April 09, 2008, 11:00:25 PM by zerotensor »

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Offline erickdt

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2008, 10:29:17 PM »
could gravity be a form of voltage?

No, gravity is a gulf in spacetime.

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 10:39:10 PM »
"Gravity is not an intrinsic property of matter, neither is inertia. These secondary forces are both formed by the reaction of matter to the dynamic field of SuperLight. Gravity is not an attraction! It is the result of a universal pressure, exerted by SuperLight as it rains in from infinity, from all directions, onto every object.   Materials are not 100% transparent to SuperLight. I estimate, perhaps about 99.99999999% transparent. As a consequence, all material domains, all "matter", experiences an acceleration caused by SuperLight. Every "particle" is affected by a slight drag, or pressure differential, as SuperLight travels past and through them." -- dr. john v. milewski

more here...
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/milewski.htm

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Offline erickdt

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 12:43:41 AM »
"Gravity is not an intrinsic property of matter, neither is inertia. These secondary forces are both formed by the reaction of matter to the dynamic field of SuperLight. Gravity is not an attraction! It is the result of a universal pressure, exerted by SuperLight as it rains in from infinity, from all directions, onto every object.   Materials are not 100% transparent to SuperLight. I estimate, perhaps about 99.99999999% transparent. As a consequence, all material domains, all "matter", experiences an acceleration caused by SuperLight. Every "particle" is affected by a slight drag, or pressure differential, as SuperLight travels past and through them." -- dr. john v. milewski

more here...
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/milewski.htm

Huh? Relativity (what I described) is proven.

Superlight? Never heard of it before...

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2008, 12:47:48 AM »
Huh? Relativity (what I described) is proven.

Superlight? Never heard of it before...

hey read the second link in my first post ;)

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2008, 01:09:14 AM »
Wilby is yanking your chain, it's what he does...

Offline redriderno22

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2008, 04:18:47 AM »
all good ideas!

but it has to be more simple

one common thing that ties it all together

light,electricity,magnetism,gravity,heat, cold.............

what that is????

who knows?

I'm sure many people have given theory's?


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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 07:26:58 PM »
I was taught that light consists of photons(a dual particle/wave) and that electrons are solid particles.
Photons can be considered as having wavelike behavior and also a solid particle behavior.Both electrons and photons can travel across space.If two light beams intersect each other(like this X) the beams pass through each other with no change in direction.They do not bump each other.However set up  two electrons to intersect and they do bump each other causing a change in direction..Triffid

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Re: can any of you answer this?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2008, 08:38:20 PM »
I was taught that light consists of photons(a dual particle/wave) and that electrons are solid particles.
Photons can be considered as having wavelike behavior and also a solid particle behavior.Both electrons and photons can travel across space.If two light beams intersect each other(like this X) the beams pass through each other with no change in direction.They do not bump each other.However set up  two electrons to intersect and they do bump each other causing a change in direction..Triffid
Electrons have a wave nature as well.  A double-slit experiment performed with electrons yields an interference pattern, which would not happen if they were classical particles.

 

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