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Free Energy Demon
« on: April 06, 2008, 02:29:41 PM »
The Free Energy Demon lives in the Etheric Plane of Existance.

Transistors will never be able to solicit the Free Energy / Over Unity which we are all looking for.  I have had this idea nagging at me for a couple of weeks.  The energy we are looking for lives on another plane of existence.  To get it we have to open a door to that plane.  A spark, is that door way.  More precisely energy flowing through free space is that door way.  All of the classic Free Energy dudes either used spark gaps or tubes, never transistors.  Not just that they were not available, but they know that transistors don't have the kahunas to do this.  I am aware of some hardcore transistors that can switch  lot of power, but what they don't do is allow energy to travel through free space like a tube or a spark gap.  A spark, well self splanitory, makes a spark.  That is the doorway to let the Free Energy Demon into this plane of existence.  The vacuum tube has plates, between which energy flows, is allowing energy not only to flow through free space but rarefied free space, a vacuum.  A more economical to do this is a relay.  When the contacts open a energized circuit there is a spark that is created, the doorway for the Free Energy Demon.  This could probably also be done with a neon tube or a glass encapsulated precision spark gap.

The reason transistors don't work is the energy does not flow through free space, no spark no Free Energy Demon.  In a transistor the energy flows through matter.  Plus a lot of transistors today have a reversed biased freewheeling diode in them that shorts out the back EMF.  So that if you did get a decent amount of electromagnetic kickback your fancy silicon driver shorts it out and makes sure you will never see the Free Energy Demon.

I'll be modifying my current project to use a relay to switch the main coil and document the results.  I'm not saying that we cannot use transistors and microcontrollers as part of the design, like in wave shaping, and timing.  But the part of the circuit which generates the Free Energy / Over Unity has to be free of silicon switching.

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Free Energy Demon
« on: April 06, 2008, 02:29:41 PM »

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 09:17:12 PM »


Hi Z.Monkey,

You just could be right...
What about the Germanium Transistors and the Tunnel Diodes
(not yet fabricated but still available, I guess) ?
Do they have any Kahuna(s)?  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahuna)

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 09:43:05 PM »
Howdy NerzhDishual,

Theoretically no, germanium is not free space.  I have been chasing the Free Energy Demon a long time.  He is a slippery little dude.  I'm going to try some experiments.  If this works like I think, I will be switching to vacuum tubes for my power drivers.  There is a neat little circuit in Nuts and Volts Magazine this month that describes a DC-DC converter to power the heater in a vacuum tube.

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 10:16:00 PM »

OK Z.Monkey,

I'm looking forward to seeing your results.

OT:
When I was about 16 (about 44 years ago :)) and a total newbie, I although
dared and managed to build a vacuum tubes amplifier for my guitar as I could
not afford a 'real' one. It was bungled but it had worked for a couple of years.
I just had to replace the EL84s (=6BQ5, I guess).

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 01:25:53 AM »
Cool,
I still build guitar amplifiers.  My latest is a biamped synthesized stereo amplifier.  It's got tone control, distortion and SLAB (Sealed Lead Acid Battery) power, so it's portable.  I charge it up and go wherever to charm the ladies.  I have a bizillion iterations of FE/OU.  I could be driving a Bentley for what I have invested in Free Energy.  This time I'm gonna get that sucka...
OK, Mo later...

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 09:16:40 PM »
@ z.monkey

Quote:
Tesla's introduction to the phenomena of Radiant Energy began with early observations by linesmen working for Thomas Edison, Tesla's former employer

Before Tesla's invention of the Polyphase AC generator became the industry standard and overtook Thomas Edison's use of DC generators, the DC electrical system was the only system available to deliver electricity to America's homes and factories. Due to the resistance offered by long transmission lines, Edison had to produce very high DC voltages from his generators in order to deliver enough voltage and current to its final destination. He also had to provide additional 'pumping' stations along the way to boost the sagging voltage which dwindled from line losses. A curious anomaly occurred in the very first instant of throwing the power switch at the generating station: Purple/blue colored spikes radiated in all directions along the axis of the power lines for just a moment. In addition, a stinging, ray-like shocking sensation was felt by those who stood near the transmission lines. In some cases, when very large DC voltages surged from the generators, the "stinging" sensation was so great that occasionally a blue spike jumped from the line and grounded itself through a workman, killing him in the process.

Tesla realized almost immediately that electrons were not responsible for such a phenomena because The blue spike phenomena ceased as soon as the current stated flowing in the lines. Something else was happening just before the electrons had a chance to move along the wire.
At the time, no one seemed to be very interested in discovering why these dramatic elevations in static electrical potential were taking place, but rather, engineering design efforts were focused on eliminating and quenching this strange anomaly which was considered by everyone to be a nuisance-except Tesla. EndQoute



So when Thomas Edison switched his very high voltage with a mechanical switch, he creates nothing more than a spark gap before the contacts were really closed in the procedure of switchig . Of course he had a mechanical switch, there were no high power transistors or other semi-conductors at this point of time.
Is that the message of your post, regarding the free energy demon ?

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 09:33:10 PM »
Hey Frederic2k1,

Yes, that is it exactly.  When you switch a circuit with a semiconductor you are not getting the full range of the switch.  When a transistor is on it is a few ohms, when it is off it is megohms.  When a mechanical switch is on it is zero ohms, and when it off it is infinite ohms.  Those blue spikes on Edison's lines were the Free Energy Demon.  Tesla realized this and went on to explore the phenomena.  I think we can make a compact device which can exploit this effect.  A bottle to trap the Free Energy Demon in, then well make him work for us...

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 04:18:54 PM »
Hi zmonkey.

What about the over unity effects they got when they were finetuning the very first point-contact transistors?
Those first transistors were difficult buggers, some of them just did not want to give the intended output characteristics,
and kept giving measurements that were not right, according to the theory.
Instead of focusing on working them up to higher levels of odd and seemingly negenthropic behaviour, they
worked very hard to iron these anomalies out, so they would get a standardised transistor that always behaved
in the same predictable way. The main objective was predictability, reliability, and mass production of the transistor,
so they could use them to downsize the huge computers of the day.

Similarly, they engineered silicon semiconductor diodes to be as standardised as possible, so every diode would behave
in the same predictable fashion according to the theory. That took quite some work, but they did it.
It also eliminated some other possibilities of diodes and transistors, because certain semiconductors like gallium arsenide for
example had certain characteristics like higher electron mobility that were preferable over those of silicon, but they decided
to go for mass production of silicon semiconductors instead. They apparently decided one standardised semiconductor diode
and transistor material field was much easier to work with than making special diodes for every different purpose, even though
they knew very well this would lower efficiency. A factor that probably played a large role was the fact that silicon had been studied
in detail during WW2, funded by the US govt of course, and even though right after the war Germanium came into view (because
the Germans had already studied and produced more sensitive germanium diodes during the war and the US simply stole the tech),
they did not have as much experience with it. So they continued on the path that was already somewhat set, and after the decision
to stick to silicon for nearly all purposes, what we now know as Silicon Valley came to be.

I believe you are entirely correct when you say that mere silicon semiconductors are not the path to FE/OU.
But I do however believe that other, more sensitive, semiconductors can be used to "intercept" some FE.
It is known that old Germanium diodes sometimes showed odd and anomalous behaviour. Some did so only after
having been used for years, others did so from the moment they rolled off the production line. In general the latter
were quickly recycled or thrown away as useless (because not standard and thus not usefull in the standardised
electrical component model), the former were almost always found by electrical engineers dismantling, cannibalising,
or simply repairing electronics with germanium diodes in them.

So, to recap: Yes, I think you're right that commercially available standardised silicon semiconductor components,
be it diodes or transistors, are not suitable for "intercepting" FE.
But I personally do think that certain non-standard diodes or transistors made from exotic semiconductors can,
if properly applied, "intercept" some FE. :)

Theoretically no, germanium is not free space.
True, but it is comparable in a way if you take the following into account:
- "space", as in the interstellar void, is nowadays considered to be a plasma.
- semiconductors like germanium, at the junction between a relatively "p" and "n" layer, are considered to be a form of plasma.
Now note that is only at the junction zone, and the plasma of course refers to an equal number of (relatively) positive and
negative charge carriers (also referred to as electrons and "holes" in semicond theory).
But that does seem to be a similar situation, in a way.
If that is what NerhDishual meant, it seems he has a point...

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I have been chasing the Free Energy Demon a long time.  He is a slippery little dude.  I'm going to try some experiments.  If this works like I think, I will be switching to vacuum tubes for my power drivers.  There is a neat little circuit in Nuts and Volts Magazine this month that describes a DC-DC converter to power the heater in a vacuum tube.

Well certainly interesting.
Have you considered "cold cathode" vacuum tubes? That way you wouldn't even need to heat anything...
Also, and I can't find any source for this at the moment, but I have read several times that Tesla sometimes
used Germanium and other relatively uncommon materials in his vacuum tubes. After all, before the solid
state semiconductor diodes were invented, they used vacuum tube diodes... Perhaps the use of Ge in them
actually supported the diode function, or in Tesla's case even the "radiant energy" absorption...?

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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 05:07:11 PM »
Well Koen1,
you make a lot of interesting points there.  Developing specialized semiconductor specifically to harness zero point energy is certainly something that I would love to do in the future.  I believe it is theoretically possible, but will require a lot of research and money.  Also I believe that semiconductor manufacturing companies which found devices with anomalous behavior kept those discoveries secret.  Either that or they just found the behavior curious but not acceptable and destroyed those devices.  Gallium arsenide is an excellent LED material.  Germanium is interesting also because of its low forward voltage drop.  I have tried to find Germanium diodes several times for both job and hobby, but have never found them.  I would suspect that have a unique quality which is used in radar systems or weapons systems which makes the military hoard them.  Developing specialized tubes for free energy is another thing that we could certainly explore.  This is another good reason to form "The Institute for the Advancement of Free Energy"  A governing body for the research and development of free energy devices and subsequent technologies.  But, you see, this will happen in the future.  We have to build the "proof of concept" first.  Which is why we have to find a way to prove these concepts with existing materials and exceptional ideas.  If we can make the "proof of concept" free energy device work then we can attract investors and accelerate the research and development process.  I have family which are in investing and capital management.  I have introduced them to the idea of free energy.  They think it is the hottest product idea that they have ever heard of.  I can imagine that any capital investor would.  But we can not get these people to invest in the idea of free energy until we have a working "proof of concept" device.  I think that good 'ole honest capitalism can take this idea mainstream.  But we only have the materials that are available right now to prove it to them.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 11:58:46 PM »
I agree with you on most of that, but I also believe setting anything structural up
like an international research body that actually has international governmental
support will be opposed by forces inside those governments... sadly.
I don't want to make any insinuations here, but I would like to quote
(or misquote ;)) mr Kron who worked on the "network analyzer" during the
second world war, for the US navy I seem to recall: "...since few real negative
resistors are available for use in the network analyzer, we use a second circuit...".
That appears to have been a slip of the tongue, and another such slip though clumsily
corrected was also found somewhere. I believe Bearden mentions it briefly in one of
his books. Anyway, the implication is that Kron and his team developed a sort of
negative resistor back then, and that it was kept top secret so they fiddled with the
few schematics that were released and acted as if that was how the system managed
to run on its own. Or at least, that's what I puzzled together from the info about and
from Kron. At some point I think he even described how, once the negative resistor
is in place, the system can be disconnected from the original power source and
will keep running, but I'm not entirely sure if that was him or some comment...
Anyways, to stop me from ranting ;) the point I'm trying to make is that it does not
seem unlikely "they" (military industrial complex? call it what you will) have had FE tech
for some time now and have been actively keeping it under wraps. And even if they
really don't, free energy would upset the power balance, they would lose control
over the neofeudal system, or at the very least the status quo would change drastically,
which is of course seen as a threat by many of those in positions of power and wealth.
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Re: Free Energy Demon
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 12:36:42 AM »
Oh sorry Koen1,

I think you misunderstood there, I wasn't talking about getting the government involved.  This would be a private company which governs the technology.  I would pattern it after the Institute for Printed Circuits, IPC, which maintains a repository of knowledge about printed circuit boards.  It has no affiliation with any government.  It set the standards for quality, packaging, and processes so that the whole industry has a standard to work from.  This ensures compatibility between components no matter where they are manufactured.  For instance they define the footprints for the components so that you can source a component from several different vendors and they all fit the footprint on your circuit board.  They have specification manual for everything related to circuit boards from sourcing raw materials, fabrication, finished board quality standards, assembly procedures, final assembly quality control, testing, packaging, and even shipping of electronic products.

So this is what is missing from the Free energy society.  There are no standards yet.  I have seen threads where everyone is talking about the same thing, but with different words, and it causes a massive fight.  If we had standards of concepts, documented histories of individual technologies, and standard terms everything would go a lot smoother.  The way it is now different people use different words that are the same thing.  It makes everything very confusing.  If we had standard terms then everything would be simplified.

Another thing that would help is if we compiled a set of standards, then have the "board" approve it, and publish it.  The board would be the foremost authorities in the technology, and they would be paid for their work.  This way the standard is set in, well, paper until the board approves a revision of the standard.  This way the standard doesn't fluctuate and is well thought out before publishing.  There would be a minimum amount of time before a revision is allowed so that all changes and revisions are also well thought out.

So, sorry to lead you off in the wrong direction. 

OK, Mo Later...

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 01:02:16 AM »
no, I don't think I misunderstood...

I'm just saying, even if it's a private company, I think there are "forces"
that will try to prevent FE from going public...


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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 01:03:57 AM »
..... I have tried to find Germanium diodes several times for both job and hobby, but have never found them.  I would suspect that have a unique quality which is used in radar systems or weapons systems which makes the military hoard them......

z.monkey, I was intrigued by your comment. Though it has been many years since I bought any, I had no problem finding germanium diodes then.  I don't know where you live but the place I have bought most of my electronic components still supplies them, and germanuim transistors too (never got any of them though..).  They offer a mail order service as well, so there should be no excuse... :)

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 01:39:15 AM »
Koen1,

you are paranoid, this would be a company of free energy professionals.  IPC is people from all over the globe who work in the printed circuit board industry, from many different companies.  There is no reason to fear this.  It would be like overunity.com with formal documentation.  No worries...

Z.Monkey

Sprocket,

I'm in Texas.  Howdy Y'all.  Yeah, I see them now in Cricklewood Electronics.  Some are Texas Instruments parts.  I guess I didn't look hard enough...

Now I know where to get 'em.

OK, Y'all, Mo Later...

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 12:44:56 PM »
Art   seems to be alot of truth in what you say    joe cell    that man in canada who gives the demo's of seemingly magic electric circuits  a scary place [the unknown  unexplainable] lots of examples of seeming faith [mind ] based devices  that only work around the inventers or believers    any body here that blows you off   hasn't done their homework    Chet

 

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