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Author Topic: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'  (Read 139781 times)

Offline MinEth3r

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #90 on: June 17, 2008, 02:59:05 AM »
Let's try it once again:
If there's a magnet biaising the ferrite, maybe another type of biaising is in action,
much like the magnet being near the coil, thus imparting more energy?! Didn't read
 the whole thread, and I ask it, maybe it's because its really worth mentioning at this point.

Halbach Arrays and biaising
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One can cook ceramics than can be magnetized in only one direction, lots of mecanisms possible, but if one does magnetize a Halbach magnet array made of those, by using a motor stator with poles as the fluxapplication mecanism, one can cook very fast ou devices.
Patents are around and readly available, deemed not too dangerous. One can build delivery robots going at 400 km/h on asphalt in between normal traffic with a 4000fps+ AI on board on top of magnetic bearings, using maybe an impulse drive to steer the thing?

Hodowanec has written about bringing a mass near a charged capacitor to create a spike, one should read about the things, as in Distinti's sayings : Inertia is mass and is electromagnetic, think here about glafreniere's model of the electron, a stationary 3d spherical standing wave in a 4D positive definite reality. One can use Conformal embeddings with vectors squaring to zero, special points/vectors at infinity and beyond to algebraically encode space and its inner, separate geometrical quentities - <= no better word, really, a new one while we're at it :O) - into coordinate-less transformation of information: you can kick tensors in the nuts and never look back.

Let's cite the most recent paper on euclideanrelativity, on what actually happens, supposedly:
This momentum is orthogonal to the 4-momentum vector of particles in rest. When the particle begins accelerating, its momentum vector rotates towards space so that the momentum vector that is added by the electromagnetic field is no longer orthogonal. This decreases the efficiency of the particle's acceleration. After all, the total magnitude of the particle's 4-momentum vector remains $ m_0 c$  at all times, so vectorially adding momentum can only be accomplished if the resulting momentum vector again has magnitude $ m_0 c$ .

Pfffff.... :O) I'll come back later with more tied up stuff for sure, hey its only my level but who cares :O) I'll try to find stuff on what we're looking at, if any avail. Rectification of Heat with small diodes, No NOOO, just, hmmm what else could do the trick to show how a sham this whole energy thing is. From every side; I hope people are reading this, total switch in values, in one own's global intepretal anisotopy, one's mind eye. Mau He heard in the distance, from all those distant, rising friends. (big japanese pun, if any)

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In this day and age, we need more digital citizen warfare. http://ultratechnology.com , to get the spirit right on a part of the mecanics of these things :O) If you play with resonance, then let's try a bifilar coil instead, UsualVperTurn = V/n becomes = to V/2 instead, so you get distributed capacitance, and thus get with special(ly coated) wire very subtle impedance matching fun going on (resistance of void/air, around 377ohms anyone? http://www.classictesla.com/download/emfields.pdf for details, notice the BS thrown there and there, in light of Distinti's work), if you want of course. Thanks for your time everyone, I'm delighted at the response, lets try to keep this going towards something :O)

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2008, 03:05:03 AM »
"-." = .

Reality P0rn, its what science is all about. At least in the first fun stages of reading a maximum number of papers to get a grip on how things are done in this world :O) after that one has to be responsible, due dilligence of the rightous -? someone, somewhere?.

For your viewing (and groking) pleasure:
http://lanl.arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Aquino_F/0/1/0/all/0/1

Offline alan

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #92 on: June 17, 2008, 12:06:24 PM »
Pease post more links you find relevant!  ;D

Important to note is that Distinti proves longitudinal waves by experiment. If he really got it right, then who are too?
He perhaps: http://home.wanadoo.nl/raccoon/

Found this: http://www.scribd.com/word/full/4445?access_key=4vugu5b3zvfo8
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 12:59:53 PM by alan »

Offline MinEth3r

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #93 on: June 17, 2008, 02:51:04 PM »
@alan,

great stuff, here's at first sight what I know about that might interest you.

The best *full, complete, selfsufficient* EM theories are from Andre Gsponer and Sameed Ahmed Kahn on Arxiv:
http://lanl.arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Khan_S/0/1/0/all/0/1 , Full matrix theory of wavelength-dependant optics
http://lanl.arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+gsponer/0/1/0/all/0/1 , some of Best math around using Generalised Functions! Derives lots of elementary results and correct them. They probably have holes.... one need to look carefully.

Notice in Gsponer  and al. 's work, inspired straight from Cornelius Lanczos, the need to take the the third time derivative into account. One needs to alter acceleration with an in-system entity, and then meta-magically manipulate its formula for stuff to happen, not play with the acceleration equation directly. Here's why retardation and stress not linear to strain can bring in the mix:
    http://www.rexresearch.com/dean/davis4.htm
taken from the file on the Dean Drive @ rexresearch, material up on Halexandria too. Jaume Gin?'s efforts on the matter of retardation
are to me the most Distinti-esque of what's available on the subject, his Mercury's perihelion precession paper is the best one overall IMHO.

Those would be the most relevant to me, thanks for the quaternionic EM reference by Saint Alban, didn't have it in my archives, snatched the pdf version, will probably read it by the end of today.

As for geometric algebra, and even higher, yet nicer and simpler math, read Douglas Lundholm on Arxiv.
http://lanl.arxiv.org/find/math/1/au:+Lundholm_D/0/1/0/all/0/1
His writtings will help you navigate through Geometric Algebra most powerful ideas more simply and explore some pretty advanced physics head on with a fresh approach, at least in my neophyte amateur point of view.

Guay, Alexandre (2008) A Partial Elucidation of the Gauge Principle on PhilSci is worth the read for those in need of answers about this particular subject, pretty clearly states that classical EM with U1 symmetry is wrongly so, and lots of other interesting stuff. His other articles are great too. Very proud he's working in Quebec :O)

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Thanks have a great day and a great read too while you're at it c:O)



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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #94 on: June 17, 2008, 04:45:15 PM »
hi alan

by now, you're probably wondering "what are the practical implications of all this?"


...and the answer is...


if you need to catch a train in an unfamiliar town....

    ...don't ask a mathematician or a physicist for directions to the station!  ;)


have a good day all
sandy
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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #95 on: June 17, 2008, 11:32:37 PM »
 ::)

Half read through the Alban manual, as a complementary read look at
    http://www.math.temple.edu/~wds/homepage/works.html and check paper 73, 72 and 67 among others :O)

    Pythagorean triples are one of my research area, superb articles on them on Arxiv, in the Advances in Applied Clifford Algebra academic journal too, it points to an indexable parametrization of quadratic space, of the circle/plane. But *that* would be the kind of thing that would lead us astray for now, much needed when tackling the CAD/Simulation part of things, IMHO once again.

    I'll try to tidy things up (can't always rely on others to do this for me, eh ;p) and put in online in English format in a concise page/pdf maybe. The Ivor Catt way of thinking about a capacitor might be of interest, if not already mentionned. Can't find the link to the step-charging picture of his mecanism of ping-pong energy shuffle between plates of a capacitor, anyway, might just be so wrong :P.

Good luck with the experimenting, I'm over and out for a short while, t'il I get something really useful for you guys groked out. Cheers!

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2008, 12:22:50 PM »
Information overload  ;D many thanks

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2008, 12:07:36 AM »
Couldn't resist...

With stuff like this:
   http://ltamer.sf.net , found at lamdba-the-ultimate.org
... my job as an amateur Physicist/Mathematician/ActivityPlanner  - hahaha, how could someone read through me so heavenly  :-X - would be a lot easier! I'm pretty excited right now  :o

   Let's take an example first hand: in the trade previously mentionned one must put all his or her acquired mathematical/mechanical machinery towards groking work from the likes of Florentin Smarandache at Al., that seem to only take slighlty tortuous roads and don't name 'em in the right lexical field :P One has to be sure it's genuine math, so to speak? It probably is, most certainly though: it's was our own previous mathematical judgement as fellow competent technicians on Earth that has taken a decisive blow in its legs. So many years astray...
    http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.2847
Also recently their Super-Mathematics of Exctentered stuff is quite appealing, I only get like 15 % of what they're saying. Recently it has been proven that a plane perpendicular and slighlty perpendicular to the revolving axe cutting a torus (the Cross product part of the sphere in 3D, as a shabby example, think dividing by fractions, near the center/zero )is always a quartic. A Lot of math in Rational Trigonometry is Quartic.

Can't you see the bias, that everything around you is terribly wrong? Take this one here, most fascinating work, along with other great NT paper down that ArXiv pitt...

Number Theory: Square Root Spiral
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    http://arxiv.org/find/math/1/au:+Hahn_H/0/1/0/all/0/1

When one *knows beforehand* about NJWildberger's ?NonUni/Bi/?Linear? Math, in fact being truly *basic math anyone could have uncovered, always there for the taking, the understanding by each and every school children, that's the size of the shared shame I'm talking about sometimes*, one knows it's simply the most simple spiral possible, and it does take full sense when one does work quadratically. Wonderful exercice, PI squared pops in. Prime numbers are wondefully investigated. Each one is a color, one could say, a scalar color.

    Now, after a while...
     after even just glancing at the pictures and material, pythagorean triples will take their meaning head-on. Color in Physics most of the time means three elements in a ring, not bits but trits, fields of three elements; as Wildberger noted, base/modulo 2 is degenerate, 1=-1 modulo 2 ! It is sub-classification, degenerate in some pointy aspects, since a lot's still working and even with shortcuts, very efficiently,  still pointy to me after all this time, yet the fun continues... thinking about Nico Benschop's crucial work on the matter, his multiplier patent... lots of great people out there, let me tell you  8) ;) Here's the  Abstract of one of his Arxiv paper, to give you a taste... of the tiem we're wasting every second we don't know this kind of stuff! :PPP:

A new Binary Number Code and a Multiplier, based on 3 as semi-primitive root of 1 mod 2^k
Authors: N.F. Benschop
(Submitted on 3 May 2001)

    Abstract: The powers of 3 generate half of the odd residues mod 2^k (k>2), and a sign change yields the other half. In other words: 3 is a semi-primitive root of 1 mod 2^k (k>2). Hence each k-bit residue is n = +/- 3^i.2^j mod 2^k, with unique non-neg exponent pair: i<2^{k-2} and j<k. -- A new "dual base logarithmic" binary number code (bases 2 and 3) employs this property. This (binary) log-code [s,i,j] - where s is the corresponding sign, simplifies binary multiplication by translating it to addition of the exponents of 2 and 3, and XOR of the signs involved. -- Patent US-5923888 (13jul99)

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2008, 07:47:21 PM »
Hi everyone,

    I'm way too taken over by the mathematical opportunities out there, let me summarize where a quick glance at the recent columns ArXiV took me, truly on the topic we started to explore, really!, maybe a thread change, but we can steer it back whenever we have the correct theory of inertia/energy ;O) it's dead anyway, isn't, genuinely wondering here:

  Regarding Maxwell equations, and evaluating Distinti's and other's work, along with what follows, one of the single best modern treatments around:
Ulrich Gerlach's Linear Mathematics in IUnfinite Dimensions
Partial Differential Equations,
System of Partial Differential Equations: How to Solve Maxwell's Equations Using Linear Algebra
http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~gerlach/math/BVtypset/BVtypset.html

    One can then criticize current em/physical theories on solid ground, with a couple such good standpoints in the backpack as Cliffordian biquaternions (read: 8x8 matrices) as used by Lanczos and later Gsponer, or 8x8 matrices as by Sammeed Ahmed Khan and al. (using Foldy-Whothuysen iterative diagonalization technique, such as pushed as "Quantum Harmonic Oscillator: the Third Way" by Marsiglio from UEdmonton!). Pretty interesting already, this old stuff... (yeah old, as in: should be already known everywhere!)

BUT!,
   nowadays one has under the belt papers such as those, on the mathematical side:
    0803_3782v2 - SCHWARTZ, Charles - Analytic Functions of a Quaternionic Variable
    0804_2869v1 - SCHWARTZ, Charles - Analytic Functions of a General Matrix Variable
    0806_3411v1 - HANS, Jochen - N-th Root
    0805_0311v1 - GALLIER, Jean - Clifford Algebras, Clifford Groups and a Generalization of the Quaternions,, The Pin and Spin Groups
        (already in the delightful Clifford Algebra Master Thesis previously mentionned!)
    0407032v1 - SUZUKI, Alfredo Takashi - Evaluating residues and integrals through Negative Dimensional Integration Method (NDIM)
and on the Physics side
    0805_3859v1 - SOBCZYK, YARMAN - Principle of Local Conservation of Energy-Momentum
        (marvelous paper, right on topic!!! :D)
    euclideanrelativity.com's papers
    www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/xh9theor.htm
       (The constant speed EM/everything Ivor Catt theory!)

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   I think we (highly fuzzy we) can build together a good enough EM theory relating current and light, induced/Eddy-/Foucault's currents while encompassing shape contraction and a mechanical explanation of kinetic energy, a correct accounting of mass changes... if we manage to unite a lot of disparate papers and work, perhaps it would be so great we would have to feedback every one the referenced authors, to show where their work fits in a coherent picture, and spark something powerful.
Would start with something one can explain to kids any age and work from there! The No-Bullshit Linear Algebra course by G. Sobczyk

   The endeavour isn't entirely off-topic, it's in fact the utmost continuation of an effort to understand what's going on in there; some of our current scientific achievements are leaving the real world far behind, with us in it. We can do better, don't you think?! :O)

    Still handing some time here and there to the Mission 8) ,
        MnEt3hr


    Still wondering about the Doc Ringwood montage's ferrite bias, about the small but powerful magnet and it's stationed position, too close to the coilmaybe.. just asking again, didn't get the answer yet, or any picture of the working circuit, layout wise sometimes one get screwed, although especially notifiable when working in low-power megacycleperseconds range with a o'scope power supply nearby, which isnt the case here! :O) If one is to measure energy propagation one has to know approximate dimensions and relative placement. Perhaps I could give a hand too, but I lack supplies, money and space in my cramped apartment, sorry :O)

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2008, 08:09:44 PM »
absolutely

'still rivers run deep'

...i think you may have missed the boat, Min, the practical stuff has moved on to the PM phase now

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #100 on: July 01, 2008, 09:33:08 PM »
Lol,

Put this into Stifflers thread and it was edited out.
(i should have known better )

So lets try here. DC-DC switch.

????.

Might be similar to what everyone is doing here?
just PSpice sim though,

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/free_energy/message/31597

Cliff,

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #101 on: July 02, 2008, 12:01:55 AM »
hi Cliff

i've seriously thought about starting a thread just for people who've had their posts 'Stifled' - so everyone can still get to read them - i think it would actually make for a more interesting read

anyway, thanks for the post - IIRC Dr Spark was able to get Spice (or similar) to sim OU behaviour with his version of the 'Tesla switch' - the 'circuit' would start up & increase output until limited by regulating 'components'

i followed your link and read the posts but didn't try the torrent link - i'll have to leave the Spice evaluation to someone with that App

would be interesting to compare the Spice circuit behaviour with a real build and see if/where the two diverge

all the best with the experiments
sandy
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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #102 on: July 02, 2008, 02:52:35 AM »
The drspark simulations showed OU, because a setting was incorrect. He said so in his thread.

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #103 on: July 02, 2008, 05:23:36 AM »
>i've seriously thought about starting a thread just for people who've had their posts 'Stifled'

That?s ok, lol  :D
Thought it was ?similar? I guess I should be following that thread closer.
I guess I don?t ?get it? on that one, which is ok.


>anyway, thanks for the post - IIRC Dr Spark was able to get Spice (or similar) to sim
>OU behaviour with his version of the 'Tesla switch' - the 'circuit' would start up &
>increase output until limited by regulating 'components'

yes, I?ve seem some spice circuit posts which defied reality before.
(which turned out to be artifacts)

I don?t have spice either, so I?m not clear on this schematic
Other than DC-DC.
And, it?s probably a software error, but you never know.
Thought someone would like to look it over.

>would be interesting to compare the Spice circuit behavior with a real build and see
>if/where the two diverge.

Ya, really. If someone has the time, space and spice  :)

>all the best with the experiments

thanks,

Cliff,
Experiments in electrostatics, as slow as molasses in winter.

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Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'
« Reply #104 on: July 03, 2008, 03:11:05 AM »


Hi guys (and especially Sandy alias Dr R. the Bass Hero).

I had gave up reading this thread since June 03. One Month. Good gracious!  ;D
Why? Just a matter of not spreading myself too thin....
IMHO, this overunity dot com forum is getting crazy.
My one farad caps are dozing in some plastic box. :'(

As I can quickly figure out there are very interesting posts that I have missed.

About "Capacitor Anomaly":
Huge capacitors (5-10.000 uf) shorted with an 1Megohm resistor show
a real and variable voltage. I made these measurements a 'couple' of years ago.
According to Gregory Hodowanec this is a very simple gravity wave detector.
A more elaborated one would need some op-amps.

Just google Greg(ory) Hodowanec, gravity, capacitor, should you be interested in...

Best