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Author Topic: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.  (Read 59058 times)

tinu

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2008, 01:10:54 AM »
Look ASSHOLE This FREE SITE wouldnt be here without STEFAN so you should thank him for allowing you to be here
all other comments are meaningless this is his site.. private in a sense and public so piss off and just let omnibus be.  its not like hes calling your home or spamming your mail .. be real
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I disagree. There is a strong competition, like in every other market. Actually, it?s worst than an ordinary market: for a field where there is no real accomplishment (but hopes) the number of specialized sites is already too large.

Rest assured that interested members migrate, depending on what each forum/site provides. Assuming the domain will go down, I bet most members will quickly meet again into a newly created or into an already existing forum. So I disagree again: this forum largely exists because of his members too. Otherwise, it will be just an empty forum, like many others. (Need some examples?)

Cheers,
Tinu

konduct

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2008, 01:12:15 AM »
Look ASSHOLE This FREE SITE wouldnt be here without STEFAN so you should thank him for allowing you to be here
all other comments are meaningless this is his site.. private in a sense and public so piss off and just let omnibus be.  its not like hes calling your home or spamming your mail .. be real
                                                                                                         Joe

I disagree. There is a strong competition, like in every other market. Actually, it?s worst than an ordinary market: for a field where there is no real accomplishment (but hopes) the number of specialized sites is already too large.

Rest assured that interested members migrate, depending on what each forum/site provides. Assuming the domain will go down, I bet most members will quickly meet again into a newly created or into an already existing forum. So I disagree again: this forum largely exists because of his members too. Otherwise, it will be just an empty forum, like many others. (Need some examples?)

Cheers,
Tinu
Amen...logic does exist in here!

Bulbz

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 01:12:22 AM »
Maybe. Whatever. Making us deal with Omnibus is worse. If Stefan only gets a taste of what we have to put up with then we have a little step toward resolve. I personally don't care what is thought about my words. If you don't want to get hit below the belt then protect your nuts!


If you think that telling me to protect my nuts is going to start a flame way between you and me, then think again. I'm not here to argue the toss with you, so starting a flame war with me is a no go. You will be basically pissing into the wind. So will you please just try to cool it.
What I meant was that if Stefan doesn't want to receive criticism about his little Nazi buddy Omnibus, then he should do something about it. I haven't ever spoken to you or know who you are.


OK, I apollogise for my mis-understanding. But seriously, could you find it in your nature to make this negative situation, into a positive one  ;).

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 01:13:51 AM »
konduct...!

You think you're the only guy into magnet motors?
Here is something I started a few years back and I'm still at it:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magnetech-research/

I'm a magnet head and know that a magnetic motor can be built!

So, go and start your magnet motor forum... already!

~Dan

Feynman

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2008, 01:16:53 AM »
Look this is absurd that we are fighting over such nonsense

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Magnet motors can?t possibly work.
EDIT: Feynman does not agree!    (I had spoken too harshly)


"Suppose a flux path material is used as the stator pole of a permanent
magnet motor. A large permanent magnet is used to magnetize that short
length of flux path, as shown one the left in Figure 6-31, which illustrates a
concept for a magnetic motor. For convenience, imagine that the small
magnet on the right is not yet placed on the material flux path extension.
The flux path extension is energized by the south north pole of the large
permanent magnet on the left, and used as the stator in a rotary magnetic
motor.

(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/570/beardenna9.jpg)

As can be seen, the north pole of the rotor, shown in the figure, is attracted
to the resulting south pole of the stator. Power can be taken from the shaft
of the rotor while it is being attracted in to the extended north pole of the
stator flux extension. As it begins to pass the extension end, obviously if
nothing else is done it will develop back mmf "drag" by being attracted
back toward the north pole of the flux extension as it passes it.
However, suppose that ?just when the rotor south pole is passing dead
center of the stator north pole extension, one suddenly pulses a small flat
coil placed on the face of the extension, which serves the function of the
small permanent magnet shown on the right of the material flux path
extension. Further, suppose the magnetic field produced by the coil is
oriented as the field of the small permanent magnet, but is much weaker
than the magnetic field of the large permanent magnet on the left. A very
curious effect then occurs. This energized coil magnetizes the edge of the
flux path extension, to a small "skin depth" as shown, with a north
polarity. The magnetic flux is now bidirectional in that same material flux
path extension.
Further, this edge-switching action is performed so that it is this "partial
north polarity" of the now-altered extension that faces the rotor north pole
as it begins to pass the extension and enters what previously would have
been a back mmf section. Instead, now that former back mmf section is a
weakened forward mmf region, further accelerating the rotor. This action
breaks the Lorentz symmetry around the rotation path of the rotor,
resulting in a net nonzero (nonconservative) magnetic field. Hence the
entire rotor exhibits a net drive force around its loop. The rotor will
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                 ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM: CONCEPTS & PRINCIPLES.
accelerate until the mechanical work performed upon the shaft, friction,
etc. is equal to the net magnetic energy furnished to the rotor.
The beautiful part of this motor is that one does not have to "overcome" by
brute force ? and then reverse ? the north polarity of the entire stator
extension. In theory, the overall energy added to the rotor is greater than
the energy that must be added for the "edge switching" of the magnetic
flux path extension, because the entire back mmf of the motor has been
eliminated and replaced by a weaker forward mmf. If the process of
furnishing the "skin depth" weaker magnetic north field to the edge of the
flux path extension is made sufficiently efficient, this engine also can be
made self-powering, at least in theory.
The former "motor" design has been converted to a "motor/generator"
design, by the addition of the edge-switching action. The novel factor is
the use of bidirectional flows of magnetic flux in a single material flux
path.
An additional improvement is to rig a Wiegand sensor and pulse generator
or sensors in conjunction with the rotor action, to freely furnish and kill
the edge-switching pulse to the face-magnetizing coil on the flux path
extension, at the appropriate times. This is an area where even high school
students will be able to experiment.
Bedini's patent on the edge switching process and its various embodiments
and improvements has been issued {453}.

" -Tom Bearden, Energy from the Vacuum, pp. 375-377




374.    E.g., see Howard R. Johnson, "Permanent Magnet Motor." U.S.
Patent No. 4.151.431. Apr. 24. 1979.


As for omnibus, I have no idea about him, but I will tell you he posted a good post in the TPU thread about relativity. Anything else I don't know.  But can we please not do personal attacks!   Seriously this is ridiculous


« Last Edit: March 30, 2008, 04:23:19 AM by Feynman »

konduct

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2008, 01:18:26 AM »
konduct...!

You think you're the only guy into magnet motors?
Here is something I started a few years back and I'm still at it:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magnetech-research/

I'm a magnet head and know that a magnetic motor can be built!

So, go and start your magnet motor forum... already!

~Dan

I could...but in the name of efficiency...it would take WAY LESS ENERGY for Stefan to just ban Omnibus. Guys...don't get me wrong...I enjoy Stefan's site and nearly all of its members and their ideas a lot. But not enough to tolerate Omnibutt.  This isn't personal with any free energy people or even Stefan. It's business so to speak.

Bulbz

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2008, 01:19:44 AM »
konduct...!

You think you're the only guy into magnet motors?
Here is something I started a few years back and I'm still at it:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magnetech-research/

I'm a magnet head and know that a magnetic motor can be built!

So, go and start your magnet motor forum... already!

~Dan



That's the spirit Dan, you keep at it ;). only a couple of centuries ago, "the people that knew", debunked the idea of the motor car. Due to the fact that they thought that a person would suffocate at more than a few miles per hour.

Not so long after that, they also knew that it was impossible for machines to fly.

If people stop trying, we will never know.

[EDIT] P.S... I'm also a magnet head, and a HHO head  ;D [/EDIT]

konduct

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2008, 01:21:13 AM »
Good stuff Feynman. That's the spirit Bulbz...if I don't keep trying to get Omnibus banned...I'll never know if I could! =)

Bulbz

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2008, 01:22:42 AM »
Good stuff Feynman.

So konduct... I take it, you are also a magnet head ?  :).

Good stuff.

konduct

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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2008, 01:26:10 AM »
Yeah...I fell down the rabbit hole by accident a couple years ago. Got my entire place covered in NEOs, drill press, cutting boards and scraps. I'm also a member of Steorn's SPDC.

Bulbz

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2008, 01:31:22 AM »
Yeah...I fell down the rabbit hole by accident a couple years ago. Got my entire place covered in NEOs, drill press, cutting boards and scraps. I'm also a member of Steorn's SPDC.


Got anything built at the moment ?. If so, please post some pictures  8).

Super God

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2008, 01:36:54 AM »
Wow, on most forums you would be banned in a heartbeat for insulting an administrator as you did.

konduct

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2008, 01:37:58 AM »
Yeah...I fell down the rabbit hole by accident a couple years ago. Got my entire place covered in NEOs, drill press, cutting boards and scraps. I'm also a member of Steorn's SPDC.


Got anything built at the moment ?. If so, please post some pictures  8).
Not much really. I try to keep as many different components assembled as I can so I can run tests without building a new rig each time but at the same time, my place is so small I don't have much room to keep the old "duds" around. I've been playing around with linear configurations lately too.  That's the irony in Stefan thinking I'm anti-SMOT. I've worked with all sorts of SMOT configurations. I also recently got an adjustable attachment that let's me cut rotors better than routing them by hand. I'd eventually like to start using a CNC since certain cuts are too difficult to get accurately by hand...curves especially.

konduct

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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2008, 01:39:51 AM »
Wow, on most forums you would be banned in a heartbeat for insulting an administrator as you did.

I KNOW RIGHT?  ??? That's kind of the point. I'm thinking there's a little S/M going on around here. He let's people run around here insulting at will. Oh well. Fuck Stefan. He's obviously a wuss . lol  ;D

Bulbz

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Re: OU.com rules! Stefan is the man.
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2008, 01:41:13 AM »
Wow, on most forums you would be banned in a heartbeat for insulting an administrator as you did.


Not being funny, but hush. We trying to make positives out of negatives here  ;).