Author Topic: Gravity Magnetic Motor (Read 74424 times)

itsblockdog · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2008, 09:16:46 PM »

Quote from: CLaNZeR on June 25, 2008, 08:59:40 PM

@Omega

Fantastic Graphics mate, well done for the time and effort, excellent job.

Cheers

Sean.

Hi, My name is Ronnie (itsblockdog) on youtube grav/wheel/mag/motor/device
Please forgive me if this message is intrusive. I hope to extend my hand in friendship.
kind regards, Ronnie

CLaNZeR · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2008, 09:24:51 PM »

Quote from: itsblockdog on June 25, 2008, 09:16:46 PM

Hi, My name is Ronnie (itsblockdog) on youtube grav/wheel/mag/motor/device
Please forgive me if this message is intrusive. I hope to extend my hand in friendship.
kind regards, Ronnie

Hi Ronnie

Not intrusive at all, please see my message above yours!

Cheers

Sean.

itsblockdog · « **Reply #32 on:** June 25, 2008, 09:54:34 PM »

Quote from: CLaNZeR on June 25, 2008, 09:07:54 PM

Welcome to the forums Ronnie

Well you have got our attention and this weekend I will be trying a Bike Wheel. As the Missus pointed out the other day, the kids bikes are in the shed and they never use them, so will pinch a wheel or two LOL!

Have you not tried to build this since Ronnie?

Cheers

Sean.

Thank you for your kindness and considerations of manner. I understand your reasonings for the immediate resources we have most often are those we've been looking at all along. "The Missus" are good for us (Love that encouragement) Remember my ex-girlfriend? Sheeeeeeeeesh! (I got one who likes me now) Sure makes a difference. PINCH A WHEEL or 47....the first airplanes were made from them too!!!!!

I have parts, considerations of connections, catalogue choices for magnet design & gauss particularities. The actual building has begun, yet pends upon (what I consider to be the foundation core of the device)..... The WHEEL. (It's in a machine shop as we speak) I understand certain particularities are to be fulfilled by the end of this week.

I would suggest you use the largest and the heaviest wheel you have (with the tire on it too) and consider filling the tire with water, sand, cement, lead....uranium..(ha ha) whatever...to give it WEIGHT + centrifugal movement x momentum >
Kind regards Sean,
You have MY attention!! (I'm always a newbie)

Ronnie

Omega_0 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 25, 2008, 10:02:48 PM »

Quote from: itsblockdog on June 25, 2008, 08:30:24 PM

Hi, My name is Ronnie...... (itsblockdog) the gravity/mag/wheel/device is on youtube. Please forgive me if this communication appears intrusive. I humbly hope to extend my hand in friendship. (I must not presume deeper readings within posted conversation but, "a bit rigid" YES. Of my experience to "it" ..... IT demanded for the "wobble" in effect of the "orbit" IT would travel. The "wobble" was the physical action, point of exchange, (in polarities) as the magnetic fields switched from attraction to repelling. The "orbit" was one like that of a comet.(These are only statements in regard to what I eveluate, limited to my own reasoning.) I hope to make your aquaintence.

Kind regards, Ronnie

Hi Ronnie,
Most welcome.

I found your setup most interesting. It actually went full 360 degree (and more) with just a slight push, which means a LOT ! No body has done that before.
In the first part of the video, I can see the wheel turning and almost coming to a stop when the magnet below pulls it back again....

So my first question obviously is - as you know the setup better why don't you try to recreate it again ? Its only a wheel and a magnet afterall. For you it should not take more than an hour, for the rest, it may take many weeks to hit the right combination.

I see the in the first part, it worked without a wobble (elliptical path), so I based my model on that. If it must have a wobble, we just need to directly connect the rod to the magnet, skipping the restrictive slot.

I also see that in the first part, the bottom magnet is placed at an offset (not directly below the "piston"). While in the second part (crude setup), its directly below it. So we have at least two configurations. Only experiments can determine which one works best.....
So we may need to build both.

You are saying something about pole reversal, can you describe it more please?

Omega_0 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 25, 2008, 10:10:42 PM »

Quote from: CLaNZeR on June 25, 2008, 08:59:40 PM

@Omega

Fantastic Graphics mate, well done for the time and effort, excellent job.

Cheers

Sean.

Just throwing about some ideas before you start on it

Now we have the inventor here, so lets hear it from horse's mouth, rather than guessing stuff from the video....

AB Hammer · « **Reply #35 on:** June 25, 2008, 10:44:14 PM »

Omega_0

You have two inventors. The original and myself. I am in the proses of working with Ronnie on a new version of what he has done and combining with what I have done and I can do. I was going to wait till after I finished my personal projects but after talking with Ronnie today it has been decided to build it with at the same time as one of my others this weekend.

CLaNZeR · « **Reply #36 on:** June 25, 2008, 10:54:56 PM »

Quote from: AB Hammer on June 25, 2008, 10:44:14 PM

Omega_0

You have two inventors. The original and myself. I am in the proses of working with Ronnie on a new version of what he has done and combining with what I have done and I can do. I was going to wait till after I finished my personal projects but after talking with Ronnie today it has been decided to build it with at the same time as one of my others this weekend.

@AB

So are you saying to hold back till the weekend, as you have new details?
If so then I will hold back and see what your new invention on the back of the original has to offer, rather than going for the original design.

Cheers

Sean.

Omega_0 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 25, 2008, 11:08:33 PM »

Well, AB, thats a good news...
I wish you all the best.

Please post your progress.

gwhy! · « **Reply #38 on:** June 26, 2008, 12:38:00 AM »

Quote from: CLaNZeR on June 25, 2008, 09:03:07 PM

Hi Gwhy!

Good graphics mate, well done.

Sorry to say the Tri-Gate lacks one thing and that is Torque, Okay you can added stronger magnets etc, but you then increase the size of wheel etc etc to match.

But good idea as I know exactly where you were coming from apart from you would have to rotate the middle magnet before the roller could do the down stroke.

Hi Sean,
I think you may be correct about the torque but from some other test that I have done its not to difficult to increase just by increasing the dia and length of the roller mag. The middle mag will not have to rotate as there are two sets of trigates one pushing and one pulling , the drawing is not to scale and the end of the arm will not make a perfect eclipital motion more like a triangular motion. I have quickly tested this on a horizontal plane with one con rod and from a standing start it will be pushed around for about 260 degrees and stops slowly then just sits there it doesn't get pulled back the other way and when the trigates are setup correctly there is very little effort needed to tickle the middle mag back to the start. I am gonna make a crank so I can mount 2 con rods the the theory is it will fill in the missing degrees with a little bit extra

itsblockdog · « **Reply #39 on:** June 26, 2008, 05:59:48 PM »

Hi Omega!
Thank you for your focus. Please allow me a short period of time to reply. (a few hours...maybe a day). I feel your questionings deserve researched, detailed reasonings; For that: May I premeditate & respond with the utmost of my limitations? Personal experience with the original devices - I stumbled; yet stood & fell.... R&D proceedure gets a bit verbose but, more.....
(In thought, and shall return........Ronnie

Quote from: Omega_0 on June 25, 2008, 10:02:48 PM

Hi Ronnie,
Most welcome.

I found your setup most interesting. It actually went full 360 degree (and more) with just a slight push, which means a LOT ! No body has done that before.
In the first part of the video, I can see the wheel turning and almost coming to a stop when the magnet below pulls it back again....

So my first question obviously is - as you know the setup better why don't you try to recreate it again ? Its only a wheel and a magnet afterall. For you it should not take more than an hour, for the rest, it may take many weeks to hit the right combination.

I see the in the first part, it worked without a wobble (elliptical path), so I based my model on that. If it must have a wobble, we just need to directly connect the rod to the magnet, skipping the restrictive slot.

I also see that in the first part, the bottom magnet is placed at an offset (not directly below the "piston"). While in the second part (crude setup), its directly below it. So we have at least two configurations. Only experiments can determine which one works best.....
So we may need to build both.

You are saying something about pole reversal, can you describe it more please?

itsblockdog · « **Reply #40 on:** June 26, 2008, 08:20:17 PM »

Quote from: AB Hammer on June 25, 2008, 10:44:14 PM

Omega_0

You have two inventors. The original and myself. I am in the proses of working with Ronnie on a new version of what he has done and combining with what I have done and I can do. I was going to wait till after I finished my personal projects but after talking with Ronnie today it has been decided to build it with at the same time as one of my others this weekend.

Greetings. (Ronnie here) This posting is confirmed. I have a wheel in a machine shop, (was) scheduled to fullfill "within the next ten business days" .... I contacted them this morning and called "HOLD IT till further notice." (Due to personal considerations and verbal decisions with Alan and further things we speak.....) I stand with Alan. Also; Thank you, Alan for furthering our interests; as well, I am honored to have found such noble traits in manner of your friendship. I respect this posting in highest regards.

Sincerely, Ronnie

AB Hammer · « **Reply #41 on:** June 27, 2008, 12:01:42 AM »

Thank you Ronnie

This is what teem work is all about. Talk to you later by phone, I have to go to Little Rock for a quick trip.

itsblockdog · « **Reply #42 on:** June 27, 2008, 04:04:48 PM »

Quote from: itsblockdog on June 26, 2008, 05:59:48 PM

Hi Omega!
Thank you for your focus. Please allow me a short period of time to reply. (a few hours...maybe a day). I feel your questionings deserve researched, detailed reasonings; For that: May I premeditate & respond with the utmost of my limitations? Personal experience with the original devices - I stumbled; yet stood & fell.... R&D proceedure gets a bit verbose but, more.....
(In thought, and shall return........Ronnie

OK....ahh given the nature of this thing....I've begun production on a 4th model. Considering all the questions that have come in and all you wonderful people....you've helped me in more ways than I have yet to even realize. I've been terribly stubborn to want only to produce the "next" one with strict descipline to measuremnts and so much tehchnical jazz that; I even remember from the beginning that (for me) that method was futile. Last night I began production on this next effort in hopes to regain and expand upon details. I began video coverage this morning and may post certain segments as this thing proceeds. Omega; Please ask me stuff. Continue to. You help me focus. I'll do what I can. As well, make suggestions even through what is "seen" or "unseen." I appreciate your interests and hope to do my part to the best of what is given me. (I'm still trying to compose in my mind how to answer what you have asked at this point!) Perhaps read the comments posted on youtube? (I will review there too) and I'll try searching through some specific communications I've had regarding the same particularities. There are postings on HERE that are similar. (The graphic which the "piston" travels within a chamber in magnetic fields through an "orbit" like that of a comet.) It appears to have incorporated elements of all three models I posted on ytube. I FEEL THERE IS SOMETHING THERE. I wanted (back then) to incorporate some form of that design but I simply didn't have the substance resources in front of my face to stop. There is DEFINITELY something noteworthy about that element of theory in design. IT WAS VIOLENT and excited enough to tear into the nearby wall. More to come my friend....and tell me stuff (if you will) I'm a newbie and don't even know where my own kindergarden, sand box is; much more if there's sand in it or not. Kind regards to you and yours, Ronnie

I am working with Alan and our efforts contain matters which must be in all considerations of agreements we hold. I'll be showing clips of the world I stummble through and hope to befriend all those of yous who like to be friends.......

Omega_0 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 27, 2008, 07:09:05 PM »

Quote from: itsblockdog on June 27, 2008, 04:04:48 PM

OK....ahh given the nature of this thing....I've begun production on a 4th model.

Thats a big news. 4th model cool.

Although I have no idea what it'll be like but in my humble opinion, at this stage there is no need of making a megawatt generator or showing the grand theories on which it should work or making complicated designs. I'm talking from experience of what I've seen. It fails and takes a lot of money and time.
I'd wish that you keep it very very simple. A wheel, a connecting rod and a magnet. No electronics, no motors etc etc. Remember that you need to show a wheel which goes 360 degree when you let go and does it a few times. Thats all. It need not be a perpetual machine, just an OU demo.
If you are worried that it will not be useful and people will take it as a toy, dont worry. There are immensely talented engineers around the world and they will create huge generators once the principle is shown.

Please document and measure everything, the weights, lengths, dimensions etc etc BEFORE you assemble, because you wouldn't like to disassemble it just to tell others what the weights were.

itsblockdog · « **Reply #44 on:** June 28, 2008, 03:05:53 PM »

Hi...Thanks for the suggestions. (I got no ambition to even approach making this thing into some hoover damn generator, nor theories or suggestions or even weak discussions that this thing could at this level.. You're talking my language: simple as possible. All the resources I have are as "punk" as all the others. There's just more piles of it, all in one place (instead of having to hit the streets of NY every Tuesday for certain items of trash.) Thanks for the focused guidance. My descipline has been horrid regarding details and measurements. I don't mind being mocked and ridiculed "a kook," neither do I become intimidated or discouraged by "absolute facts understood by man." A few things look a bit different at this point but, I see a basic shot at the thing beginning to appear. Even regarding it a toy that mimics, it reminds me of an awkward, stumbling robot that doesn't need to be wound. Ya just give it a little shove and it gimps on it's merry little way....Thanks for the advice! Kind regards, Ronnie

Quote from: Omega_0 on June 27, 2008, 07:09:05 PM

Thats a big news. 4th model cool.

Although I have no idea what it'll be like but in my humble opinion, at this stage there is no need of making a megawatt generator or showing the grand theories on which it should work or making complicated designs. I'm talking from experience of what I've seen. It fails and takes a lot of money and time.
I'd wish that you keep it very very simple. A wheel, a connecting rod and a magnet. No electronics, no motors etc etc. Remember that you need to show a wheel which goes 360 degree when you let go and does it a few times. Thats all. It need not be a perpetual machine, just an OU demo.
If you are worried that it will not be useful and people will take it as a toy, dont worry. There are immensely talented engineers around the world and they will create huge generators once the principle is shown.

Please document and measure everything, the weights, lengths, dimensions etc etc BEFORE you assemble, because you wouldn't like to disassemble it just to tell others what the weights were.

News:

User Menu

Author Topic: Gravity Magnetic Motor (Read 74424 times)

itsblockdog

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

CLaNZeR

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

itsblockdog

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

Omega_0

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

Omega_0

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

AB Hammer

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

CLaNZeR

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

Omega_0

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

gwhy!

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

itsblockdog

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

itsblockdog

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

AB Hammer

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

itsblockdog

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

Omega_0

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor

itsblockdog

Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor