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Offline itsblockdog

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2008, 03:33:16 AM »
Thanks....had to arrange some settings like you said...."bumps" up right away now  :)
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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2008, 03:33:16 AM »

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2008, 07:18:03 AM »
Well..."bump" came in more ways than site position...got the comet hooked up (finally). Had to study Keplers orbit displays and mix in a bit of Haley's slingshot around the sun, plus the analemma "figure 8" light pattern.....subtle that it's an 8 pattern (looks oval) but if you stretch out an 8 up & down about 30 degrees the switch sings right through the crossover like a little "thank you for the push on on a kids swing goin up." I don't think my "living room " has ever been filled with so much crap. Best thing for me to do is to not manipulate it nor add a load of minestroni in, thinking this or that will be better. All the distractions of ambitious desires to goal "more" from it's elemental size hinders the simple purpose of what it simply does: mimic .... period. Crude as punk vacuum brain. Slop bearing metal against plastic, contact rubber cement...used a floor shift knob for a weight.....about as sophisticated as sawing wood with a hammer. I've been down this road before and if there is anything simpler, I may as well use paint to glue it on the rug. The REALLY wierd part is; my girlfriend. She's been in an alcohol rehab program for 2 1/2 years and she relapsed just before the holiday. She drilled me just a few minutes ago about "what the hell is this wheel for and what does it do? and why is all this crap everywhere? Then said, I just don't think you're right for me and hung up tonight. You know the picture you painted about when to be excited? I DO NOT know why or what it is about having to explain reason of an object that is so completely out of understanding. I don't need to understand it. It just does a thing. I can't measure and weigh and determine exact horseshit before the horse shits. NOW, I can take it apart a zillion times and do all that list of homework. So there it ticks. A couple of hours now. Squeeks like a mouse being stepped on with a tickey little pop in rythum. Girlfriend's gone and history repeats itself. Maybe tomorrow will be a good time to leave town a while. I'm ok. Just need a break. What goods all this crap if there's nobody to share it to and with? Ahhh, maybe it'll break in a minute anyway. I think I've got some corn oil I can slop on that plastic squeek. What a night. Thanks for the talk today. I feel kinda sick too. Talk with ya after while. Hope yo get to feeling better.
Kind regards,
Ronnie

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2008, 08:24:03 AM »
Hi,
Hey...I was trying to post this to general message board but, obvious I still don't know what th heck I'm doing . Here was my subject title: and the body......

(BONDING Neodyne magnets to: (I need to bond a 1" Neo. to a 3mm shaft. Please HELP?)

I've tried various obvious things....epoxys, cast in rubber enclosures, etc. The Magnet is SO strong It expells itself from it's position. Either totally; and flies accross the room (DANGER) or it will "shift" inside it's enclosure in force to a polarity that is unacceptable for purpose. It's nickle plated and will even scar the plating as I continue these different methods of my own trials. This is my first experiences with these type magnets and they are marvelous. However, somebody out there knows something to suggest to me? Please, that I may proceed with a quicker means....regarding my own limits of budget and knowledge?  As I continue down roads where you have traveled....I am destroying things around my environment (including distortions upon my own project.) Could someone suggest things to me. Thank you for these considerations.

Kind regards, Ronnie

got any ideas? I asked Omega the same.... (Still a newbie me)   Help?

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2008, 08:24:03 AM »
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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2008, 02:39:02 PM »
Hi,
Hey...I was trying to post this to general message board but, obvious I still don't know what th heck I'm doing . Here was my subject title: and the body......

(BONDING Neodyne magnets to: (I need to bond a 1" Neo. to a 3mm shaft. Please HELP?)

I've tried various obvious things....epoxys, cast in rubber enclosures, etc. The Magnet is SO strong It expells itself from it's position. Either totally; and flies accross the room (DANGER) or it will "shift" inside it's enclosure in force to a polarity that is unacceptable for purpose. It's nickle plated and will even scar the plating as I continue these different methods of my own trials. This is my first experiences with these type magnets and they are marvelous. However, somebody out there knows something to suggest to me? Please, that I may proceed with a quicker means....regarding my own limits of budget and knowledge?  As I continue down roads where you have traveled....I am destroying things around my environment (including distortions upon my own project.) Could someone suggest things to me. Thank you for these considerations.

Kind regards, Ronnie

got any ideas? I asked Omega the same.... (Still a newbie me)   Help?


Your most likely going to have to strip the plating off... Most important factor when bonding is how clean the surface of the magnet and what your bonding it to is.. Such as body oils, dust, etc..  Check this link.. I think it may help you.

http://www.mceproducts.com/knowledge-base/article/article-dtl.asp?id=67

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2008, 08:58:14 PM »
itsblockdog,

I replied to your message, please check the inbox here.

I hope the replication is going nicely. Some pics or vids would be nice. (From yourself or AB)

Meanwhile I guess Clanzer has given up on this wheel, because I saw his bike wheel dismantled and re-used for that mondersek (sp?) wheel. Clanzer what happened ?

Anyway, he uploaded this gem  recently -
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZcHVT5YRs

I always thought that this uses the little vibrations of the hand (as shown in original video by the inventor) to get it spinning. And no one had shown it going with a fixed stator (i.e. not holding it in one's hand).
This is baffling and I wonder why everyone is silent over this. Did I miss something ???

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2008, 04:07:05 AM »
Thank you therealrasta. You've been most helpful. Kind regards, Ronnie

Your most likely going to have to strip the plating off... Most important factor when bonding is how clean the surface of the magnet and what your bonding it to is.. Such as body oils, dust, etc..  Check this link.. I think it may help you.

http://www.mceproducts.com/knowledge-base/article/article-dtl.asp?id=67

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2008, 12:52:35 PM »
Thank you therealrasta. You've been most helpful. Kind regards, Ronnie


Glad to help when I can.. Hope your build continues and successfully too.

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2008, 12:52:35 PM »
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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2008, 02:26:24 AM »
Thank you Omega. You've been a very helpful and attentive friend. Considering other devices of efforts (I think?) the "wobble" may be a common factor to accept or at least give regard that it may need be present in the list of traits present within certain designs. The most baffling thing to me has become the repeat of personal history. AB is a good and VERY encouraging trust. I simply can NOT force this endeavor to evolve quicker than the very nature of it's existance. My personal emotions need descipline regarding patience. You haven't "missed" anything...I don't think? Clanzers post inspired me to "motivate." His presentation displayed such logic, I actually RAN to collect stuff. His display revealed search for weight, gravity, magnetic presence and a method to search for timing; all in one. God knows when, why, where....everything about what each of our individual inspiration purposes are to propose. Isn't one of the symbols for God a circle with a dot in the center? Well, here's the wheel. Clumbsy it putters. The girl is gone. The place looks like total chaos. It's moral honor not to breech trusts and post sensitive matters. Thank you further for your kind manner in every respect. Kind regards, Ronnie

itsblockdog,

I replied to your message, please check the inbox here.

I hope the replication is going nicely. Some pics or vids would be nice. (From yourself or AB)

Meanwhile I guess Clanzer has given up on this wheel, because I saw his bike wheel dismantled and re-used for that mondersek (sp?) wheel. Clanzer what happened ?

Anyway, he uploaded this gem  recently -
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZcHVT5YRs

I always thought that this uses the little vibrations of the hand (as shown in original video by the inventor) to get it spinning. And no one had shown it going with a fixed stator (i.e. not holding it in one's hand).
This is baffling and I wonder why everyone is silent over this. Did I miss something ???


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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2008, 10:23:51 AM »
From my studying the IPMM http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4449.new.html#new and the Hamel generator http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5011.msg114847.html#msg114847 I have arrived at the same conclusion: a magnet motor must engage a second force like gravity. So a gravito-magnetic Stirling type of engine could very well work. If it does we have simple man's Finsrud. A, by me, sought after schoolboy design that is easily replicable. Finsrud was the first one to successfully combine gravity and magnetism in a selfrunning device. Problem with him is the difficulty to replicate his art work. What he has is a chaos pendulum the control over which is difficult. From my Hamel replication I saw the possibility of harnessing an alternation of OU magnet pulsing by means of a Sterling design engaging gravity as modelled above. Thanks for that computer animation, very nice.

The magnet setup is the point: for a Sterling engine you have to build a kind of connected magnetic pistons that alternately either suck or push the wheel by means of a gate. The principle has been described in 1979 by Bedini as a possible drive for a magnet motor at this page: http://keelynet.com/energy/bedgate.htm.  So, studying this gate, is what is of importance to have the so-called 90 degrees rule respected (http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90). Without it you have no effective gate, but just a magnetic resistor. This would mean that two ringmagnets won't work because their polarities are in the same direction and not at angle. You have to build a gate as Bedini described and then push a magnet toward it to get it attracted. It attracts, according Bedini, four times as much as it repels, before the gate that is. In his saying that behind the gate that effect is maintained, I think he is wrong. Behind the gate it is the obverse namely, the resistance there to escape is four times as big as the push. That's why circular setups of gates don't work. The field around the gate balances the space energy of the magnet field. But if one with a Stirling engine set-up pulls the ringmagnet away from the Bedini gate before it has passed it then would one have the space-energy drive to make this machine a working ether machine.

If it works it proves a new law of nature, or better stated a corollary to the thermodynamic law of the preservation of energy: the preservation of field energy. This is what Bearden proved with his MEG patent.  One could also call it the law of Bearden in physical terms or the law of Vishnu in spiritual terms. Vishnu is the preserver and the integrity of the ether force in three different aspects: the local aspect of a magnetic wobble (curved space ether or tertiary ether: cyclic time, magnetism), the universal aspect of linear gravitation towards a black hole (universal space of negative inward going time; linear centipetal force) and the cosmic aspect of timespace expansion: the primal ether from which evertything started (linear centifugal).  The vedic terms for it are: kshiro (the local) garbo (the universal) and karano (the causal and primal drive).http://bhagavata.org/glossary/v.html#V%20i%20s%20h%20n%20u So what we are building here is a vishnu-yantra, the Sanskrit word for an ether machine that would demonstrate this (new) law of conservation of field energy.

Thus building the device, the flywheel would represent the universal garbo aspect of Vishnu, the magnetic Bedini gate pistons at both sides of the wheel to give ot a continuous push or pull would represent the linear amplification from the causal ether (the karano-aspect) and the eventual connection underneath the pistons creating a wobble that drives a rotor wheel for energy production would then figure for the local aspect (the kshiro). For a classroom demonstration of magnetic OU this latter aspect may be ommitted possibly. Thus would a gravito-magnetic sterling, let's say a GMS-device, be a perfect demonstration of the universal, cosmic and local aspects of the classical aether. There is even a vedic mantra to meditate and keep the ego and the mind under control with constructing and propagating this machine: jagann?tha sw?mi, nayana patha g?m?, bhava tume, meaning "O lord Vishnu, o Lord of the universe, please make Yourselves visible before our eyes!".http://bhagavata.org/music/text/jagannath.html In the Bhagavad G?t? (4.7 http://bhagavata.org/gita/chapter4.html#text%207) He promises to descend whenever that is really needed. And I think that at present is the case with our troubled energy politics on the planet. So we have the blessings from that department too! If our inventive and greedy ego's can't cope with the load of such a worldwide cultural reform, which is something very understandable, then let's give it to the tradition of respecting Vishnu in this way.Thus properly in sum giving credit to Finsrud, Bedini, Hamel, Bearden and even Lord Vishnu and His many manifestations, will the OMEGA ego of Ronny finding Bedini's principle by accident and such notions be appeased. It we accomplish something like this, and I do pray that we will have something replicable, is it because of all of these predecessors of science, invention and spirituality inspired us to make it this way and thus need they to be given credit. Only this kind of open source can make it a true success as well scientifically as spiritually leading to the happiness of us all. That is what I am after.

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2008, 11:30:14 AM »
Sorry your name was Ronnie, not? Do you have a webpage of your own or something?

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #70 on: November 29, 2008, 04:31:23 AM »
 Is anyone still working with this concept?

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« Reply #71 on: November 29, 2008, 08:13:30 AM »
Is anyone still working with this concept?

I have tried a gravito magnetic concept like this but have abandoned it. It didn't work for me. I didn't post anything because of not being very proud of my failed efforts, but I have some video on it. The simple bicycle wheel thing we started here, I couldn't replicate, just like Claenzer coudn't. I am now engaged in a replication of the ALME magnet motor, please see:
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ALME-OS/

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2008, 09:49:55 PM »
Hi Guys,

I am presently having sucess using 3 forces. Permanent magnet attraction, Permanent magnet repel, and gravity working together turning a heavy flywheel connected to a driver piston magnet.

Similar to the bike wheel setup that started this thread but different in how power to drive my large flywheel is obtained.  I am not using the  large floor ring magnet any more.

Will post all when my setup runs for a least a week. Then taken apart- reassembled and run for another week to be sure all bugs are out of it.

Tom



« Last Edit: December 22, 2008, 06:22:03 PM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #73 on: December 13, 2008, 02:41:06 AM »
nightlife

I haven't talked to itsblockdog for a while but it is still on the stove so to speak but its on a back burner at this time. A living is in the front burner.

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Re: Gravity Magnetic Motor
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2008, 08:53:52 PM »
Two on front burner, one in the oven. coupled of CLOSE UP still shots on the center of rod connection and THE WIRE allowing the ORBIT AND THE WOBBLE.

 

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