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Author Topic: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.  (Read 33293 times)

Offline Feynman

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2008, 05:26:57 PM »
From what I hear, part of the crop failures in Australia are due to drought.

It would be nice to make it rain.

@david
No I don't know John Bedini but I follow his work closely.  Same with Bearden. Generally I think weather modification is involving scalar energy, which as I understand it are "compression" based EM radiation.  Certainly I'd be interested in this sort of research.  A good first step might be to place a spectral analyzer near the machine with it ON and OFF and scan from 1khz - 10Ghz.   That way , you identify any transverse EM radiation and establish a "baseline" for the regular EM energy.  Scalar waves are harder to detect, but it is possible (using Caduceus coil, superconducting magnet/faraday cage, etc).

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2008, 07:26:15 PM »
The results of operating the machine are just different weather of the ordinary kind , a little unusual , but just weather . Skeptics will say that was what was going to happen anyway and the machine doesn't work . The skeptics have the attention span of 2 year olds and never look at what is happening long enough to realize this really works .

That is awesome.  However, I noticed that my coffeemaker does the same thing.  Whenever I run it, the weather changes a little bit.  Like the wind maybe picks up, or maybe it dies down, or the clouds move a little.  Nothing out of the ordinary or unusual, but you know, like little changes.  Now, don't ask me to predict how the weather is going to change, but just it will change and it may not be that noticeable but it always changes a little.  Coincidence?  I don't think so.  My coffeemaker really does do this.

Also, it makes traffic lights on the street go from green to yellow to red, or sometimes from red to green.  Not like instantly when I push the button, but shortly thereafter.  You just have to wait a few seconds and they change.

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2008, 09:54:09 PM »
To Utilitarian , I would like to see your modified coffee maker . maybe it works better than my motor . Will it remove the clouds and then bring them back ? My motor does this . It's not coincidence . Can you steer a low pressure system ? My machine can . Can you change the weather forcast ? My machine can . I can rain on your parade . Can you rain on mine ?  David Wells

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2008, 09:54:09 PM »
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2008, 01:01:14 AM »
To Utilitarian , I would like to see your modified coffee maker . maybe it works better than my motor . Will it remove the clouds and then bring them back ? My motor does this . It's not coincidence . Can you steer a low pressure system ? My machine can . Can you change the weather forcast ? My machine can . I can rain on your parade . Can you rain on mine ?  David Wells

Mine can do all that yours can do plus make coffee.  Do not doubt my coffee maker, you heretic.  It is sheeple like you that allow the government to oppress us.

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2008, 01:05:03 AM »
i guess no one is giving you the attention your after in the other threads so you drifted in here?. ::)

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2008, 01:15:40 AM »
i guess no one is giving you the attention your after in the other threads so you drifted in here?. ::)

How uncalled for!  I am a scientist and only seek the truth. I care nothing for attention, except to the extent that it draws attention on my work and allows others to assist in an open source effort.

You guys are just mad because all your device does is spin a magnet around and change the weather.  My device is also electro-magnetic, changes the weather, but also makes coffee.

I will publish the plans for my device, to allow others to replicate it, just as soon as I manage to take it apart and see how it's made.

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2008, 02:33:31 AM »
I think utilitarian has a good point which is this: 

1) tests must have a control
2) must have predictable observable results which can be readily duplicated.
3) results must have statistical significance (not result of random chance within a certain bound of confidence)

 If those factors are in place , then as far as I'm concerned it's worth experimenting.

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Offline david wells

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2008, 03:51:23 AM »
to Feynman , I have been testing this since 1994 . It is hard to imagine a control for this . You can't have two weather systems .
   As for duplication , it gets repeatable results . The settings generate repeatable results . If you set it to reduce rain , it reduces rain . If set to increase rain , it increases rain . It works without fail .
   It mainly adjusts precipitation . The force involved is something new . I have seen it do some strange things . It puts a charge in water that enables mild steel to be heat treated . I have A36 steel hardened to 50 Rockwell C with tensil strength of 200,000 psi . There is no carbon in A36 so you can't heat treat it . The machine will charge the  water and the steel gets hard and strong.
   Ripley said , "Believe it or not"  You will have to see it work . When it gets established and is as common as the telephone , you can say you were a skeptic when you first heard of it .
   I didn't invent this . I discovered it . I looked at it for 6 months before I was sure it worked .
   Have you looked at Mollers Atomic Hydrogen Generator ? It's on google . This is the closest to free energy I have seen so far .     David Wells

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2008, 05:58:20 AM »
to Feynman , I have been testing this since 1994 . It is hard to imagine a control for this . 

If you cannot imagine a control for a scientific experiment, then you are no scientist.  Have you never heard of double-blind?

Take a box.  Put the machine in the box and hide it somewhere, so you cannot see it or hear it.  Find two friends.  On random days, have one friend either turn the machine on or not turn the machine on.  Have him keep that fact secret.  The person turning on the machine on certain days cannot know which days you will actually be making observations.

You and the other friend will then observe and make notes on whether the weather is changing or not.

At the end of the trial period, you will compare and see how many times you thought the weather was changing when the machine was actually turned off.

See, not hard?  It took me all of 2 minutes to think this up.  In how many years, you have never considered performing this honest scientific experiment?

EDIT:

With a proper double blind, you can basically test for all possibilities:

1.  Machine may be on or off.
2.  You either predict a specific change or predict no change
3.  The weather changes as predicted, changes against prediction, or does not change at all

So that is 2x2x3, or 12 total possibilities of what can happen.  You will need a reasonable statistical sample, perhaps 30 days of daily data.  A high accuracy percentage will go a long way to supporting your claims.

Have you considered that the reason no one takes you seriously is because you have not done a serious test?
« Last Edit: April 11, 2008, 06:33:35 AM by utilitarian »

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2008, 06:59:04 AM »
to Feynman , I have been testing this since 1994 . It is hard to imagine a control for this . 

If you cannot imagine a control for a scientific experiment, then you are no scientist.  Have you never heard of double-blind?

Take a box.  Put the machine in the box and hide it somewhere, so you cannot see it or hear it.  Find two friends.  On random days, have one friend either turn the machine on or not turn the machine on.  Have him keep that fact secret.  The person turning on the machine on certain days cannot know which days you will actually be making observations.

You and the other friend will then observe and make notes on whether the weather is changing or not.

At the end of the trial period, you will compare and see how many times you thought the weather was changing when the machine was actually turned off.

See, not hard?  It took me all of 2 minutes to think this up.  In how many years, you have never considered performing this honest scientific experiment?

EDIT:

With a proper double blind, you can basically test for all possibilities:

1.  Machine may be on or off.
2.  You either predict a specific change or predict no change
3.  The weather changes as predicted, changes against prediction, or does not change at all

So that is 2x2x3, or 12 total possibilities of what can happen.  You will need a reasonable statistical sample, perhaps 30 days of daily data.  A high accuracy percentage will go a long way to supporting your claims.

Have you considered that the reason no one takes you seriously is because you have not done a serious test?

how come no one is taking him seriously?, just because you say so ?.,, a few posts up you said you were going to pull apart your coffee maker and tell us how it works ?, did you perform the same tests on your coffee maker that your saying David should do on his machine useing two friends that you thought up ?,...im curious about your coffee maker btw, does it really make coffee or are you putting coffee in it and just saying it does ?,.. hmmmmm. ::)

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2008, 07:26:53 AM »
im curious about your coffee maker btw, does it really make coffee or are you putting coffee in it and just saying it does ?,.. hmmmmm. ::)

I have done extensive double-blind studies on the coffee maker.  I have been able to successfully identify whether or not it is making coffee 100% of the time!  The machine is the real deal.

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2008, 10:43:51 AM »
To Utilitarian , Over the years , I have done far more than you suggested . In 1996 , I use the machine in Iowa to manipulate tropical storm Andrus which formed on the west coast by Baha . I had 4 of these machines and none were deployed elsewhere .
   I had learned that low pressure systems would move to the left of the direction I pointed the device . To test it's range , I thought Andrus would make a good target .
   I dialed the machines onto the storm and it began to move to the left . It moved clear down the west coast to Panama when it disolved and broke up . The trip took over a week . By adjusting the angle , I could steer the storm toward or away from shore .
   You want statistics ? The weather people have been tracking storms that formed on this spot since 1886 . Andrus was number 705 . Every other storm that formed there , without exception traveled out to sea toward Hawaii .
   I don't think coincidence was the thing on this test . A storm responds as expected and one out of 705 decided to go the wrong way and fooled me into thinking this works ? I have done 1000's of other tests that are proof this works . You have to watch it run to see what it does .  This would be difficult for a person who has no idea who is running a machine or where the machine is . All you would know is some unusual weather is happening and the weatherman can't seem to get it right . They get it right  if we let them . Many of the early tests were to reverse a forcast . Sorry weathermen . I should have let you know .
   Scott Stevens noticed what we were doing . He documented a lot of the things we did by taking pictures of unusual clouds .
We didn't document anything because of fear of repression . It seemed better that no one knew what was going on until we figured out how it worked .
   I know that is a little unscientific , but Nixon kept records and look what happened to him . No records , no proof we did anything . These things are not toys . If you screw up , you can flood the town . Fortunately , we learned quickly and didn't make many mistakes .
   The problem that became glaringly obvious early on was lack of properly positioned machines . Each machine has zones that it controls very well . It won't do anything to other locations . It's wave interference , You have control where the waves interefere and no control where they don't . Some events we could control because a machine was in position to do so . Other events went uncontrolled due to a lack of  a machine in the right spot . We need a lot of these machines . One in every state would be good with more along the east coast . Machines in the Virgin Islands could intercept and steer hurricanes .
   If your coffee pot works as good as my motors , we should join forces . I need all the help I can get . It's a big world .
   Your coffee pot idea is not that far fetched . We have determined that the effect could possibly be generated with only a coil driven by a pulse generator . The spinning magnet might not be necessary . We are working on that . This is not the only way to cause this effect . Better devices are sure to follow as we learn more about how it works . My device , state of the art , compares with the first telephone . It works , but better stuff will follow . David Wells   

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2009, 06:54:22 AM »
I also read this in the newpaper newman machine changes the weather.


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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2009, 07:31:33 AM »
You know, I actually thought up the idea about 20 years ago where we could build a 10 to 20 foot diameter flat ultrasonic transducer speaker on a rotatable and angled(Automated) table in the deserts and in areas of need of rain.

the ultrasonic speaker being tuned to coagulate air and water vapor into larger droplets creating rain clouds.

but it never really got any further than an idea.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2011, 08:47:43 PM »
Are you the REAL David Wells?  ;) The David Wells on Rex research did not want to give out plans. And rightly so. If this motor really works I think the danger of it falling into the wrong hands is too scary. We would have weather wars. If you are the real David Wells my friend, please choose wisely who you send the plans to. From reading the original description I think the motor works. I think the machine should be developed for it's beneficial health effects.   

 

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