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T-1000

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2012, 09:48:31 AM »
Nice to see you here again.

To stimulate NMR, the 2 magnetic fields must be perpendicular to each other.
One of those perpendicular fields can be constant and the other must be pulsating... or if both perpendicular fields are pulsating, then they should be phase-shifted 90 degrees out of phase.
The phase shift can be produced by two generators ...or one generator feeding unequal inductances or capacitances.
The latter happens because in any inductor, the current is phase-shifted and lags behind the generator output (and if there is any capacitance then the current gets ahead of the generator). "ELI the ICE man."

I am not clear how you arranged the windings on your Yoke core this time.
Where did you feed your signals and where did you measure?

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It's possible to stimulate with an electric field too, but had not mentioned it because the Yoke device does not have any open capacitive plates for the application of electric fields, e.g. the copper plates are looped and closed.
BTW: Are you using a 1-turn copper braid or a 1-turn copper foil  ?

Yes, the 90 degree fields is a key to transmutation and OU devices utilizing this principle.
It is great to see more ppl understanding process... :)

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2012, 10:23:28 AM »
Yes, the 90 degree fields is a key to transmutation and OU devices utilizing this principle.
It is great to see more ppl understanding process... :)
Do you think that the transmutation in Yoke device happens in the copper strips or in the ferrite core?

Also, what can you write about the phase-shifts of currents in Yoke windings?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2012, 03:28:45 PM »
Do you think that the transmutation in Yoke device happens in the copper strips or in the ferrite core?

Also, what can you write about the phase-shifts of currents in Yoke windings?
The core material changes because of entire resonant frequencies set is aimed to it.

The 15T winding is your large rotating magnet and 50T winding is your small magnetic force on core's frequency and this force makes 90 degree vibrations we need. Also copper plates are on that angle as LC resonant tank circuit.

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2012, 03:35:53 PM »
Nice to see you here again.



I am not clear how you arranged the windings on your Yoke core this time.
Where did you feed your signals and where did you measure?

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It's possible to stimulate with an electric field too, but had not mentioned it because the Yoke device does not have any open capacitive plates for the application of electric fields, e.g. the copper plates are looped and closed.
BTW: Are you using a 1-turn copper braid or a 1-turn copper foil  ?
The input signal I connected to U-shape turn . Output signal I have taked from 50 turn winding .
I have used 0.55 mm coper plates for U-shape turn .

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2012, 05:01:14 PM »
The input signal I connected to the U-shape turn .  I have taken  the output signal from the 50 turn winding.
What about the 15turn winding ?
As far as I remeber, STAAAR's team Yoke device had 3 windings (including the U-shaped turn).


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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2012, 05:09:16 PM »
@T-1000
Wasn't your U-shaped copper tape looped over point B ?
Different shape of the winding affects the field shape near its end, doesn't it?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2012, 08:46:26 PM »
@T-1000
Wasn't your U-shaped copper tape looped over point B ?
Different shape of the winding affects the field shape near its end, doesn't it?
Two  coper plates are connected  over the top of the core ( point A ) .
I did not connected its over pot B , couse in this situation I will not be able to
firmly attach second part of core with bifiliar winding .
 I think I will try to connect this two plates by the thin copper strip ( over point B ) . Will see any difference .
P.S In yoke video the two parts of aluminium plates were simply connected by one piece of wire .

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2012, 08:48:55 PM »
What about the 15turn winding ?
As far as I remeber, STAAAR's team Yoke device had 3 windings (including the U-shaped turn).
I make photo after removing 15 turns winding .

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2012, 01:08:36 AM »
I made the photo after removing 15 turns winding .
I asked because you did not mention applying any waveforms to the 15T winding - not because of the photo.
Aren't you driving the 15T winding at all?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2012, 08:18:10 PM »
I asked because you did not mention applying any waveforms to the 15T winding - not because of the photo.
Aren't you driving the 15T winding at all?
Not yet . unfortunately .  :(
At first I want to catch this 6 KW output like in yoke device video . But unsuccessfully . But there is on hope .
The resonant frequencys of my device are aproximately the same .
In the begining of next week I wil receive new DCO and will try to apply all frequencies to device - 50 hz to
15 turn , 312 khz to 50 turn and capacitors to U-shape turn for obtain ferrite core resonance frequency .

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2012, 09:34:50 PM »
Not yet . unfortunately .  :(
At first I want to catch this 6 KW output like in yoke device video . But unsuccessfully . But there is on hope .
The resonant frequencys of my device are aproximately the same .
In the begining of next week I wil receive new DCO and will try to apply all frequencies to device - 50 hz to
15 turn , 312 khz to 50 turn and capacitors to U-shape turn for obtain ferrite core resonance frequency .
Why not apply the 50Hz signal to the 15T winding from a step-down transformer powered by your house's power grid? 
It so happens that you have a 230VAC perfect sine wave at 50Hz where you live.

The Yoke device does not have a chance of working without these two stimulating input signals.

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I think that this 50Hz input signal should be PDC, created by a small amplitude 50Hz AC sine wave (or triangle wave) riding on top of larger DC (AC+DC addition) in such a manner that the PDC current never reverses, e.g. AC+DC>0. 
Such  PDC can be created by connecting the DC and AC sources in series.
The AC amplitude or at least the DC level should be adjustable.
That is only my opinion, though.

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2012, 02:42:58 PM »
@T-1000
Wasn't your U-shaped copper tape looped over point B ?
Different shape of the winding affects the field shape near its end, doesn't it?

Yes, it was, from both sides and shorted in one end. Also the copper strip was covering 1/4 of ferrite, it was on yoke bottom ring.
It comes down straight to magnetism geometry and force vectors. When properly aligned they work for you and when not - against you :)

P,S> Only recently we discovered the core is magnetized when we got other cores from some old russian tv sets. So ferrite core seems is made from hard ferrite - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(magnet)#Hard_ferrites

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2012, 07:38:55 PM »
Yes, it was, from both sides and shorted in one end. Also the copper strip was covering 1/4 of ferrite, it was on yoke bottom ring.
It comes down straight to magnetism geometry and force vectors. When properly aligned they work for you and when not - against you :)

P,S> Only recently we discovered the core is magnetized when we got other cores from some old russian tv sets. So ferrite core seems is made from hard ferrite - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(magnet)#Hard_ferrites
Are this working yoke device ?
I see only 37 turns over U-shape turn . Where is 15 turn winding ?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2012, 08:41:15 PM »
Are this working yoke device ?
I see only 37 turns over U-shape turn . Where is 15 turn winding ?

The working one is there - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2012, 09:37:05 PM »
The working one is there -
Please find interesting article about ferrite core works with ortogonal windings .
Unfortunately to others forum users this article in russian language .
http://lamm3.narod.ru/dop3.htm