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Author Topic: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator  (Read 106719 times)

Offline AbbaRue

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2011, 10:00:31 PM »
For Iron Fe57 the NMR at 2.3488T is 3.231Mhz    (H1 100Mhz)
To get the NMR frequency for other T you just divide. 
So for 0.5T the NMR would be 3.231/(2.3488/.5)= 3.21231/4.6976 = 0.68383395 Mhz or 683.83395 khz.

Because the NMR frequency drops proportional to the magnetic field strength,
different parts of the iron will be exposed to different magnetic field strengths. 
So as long as the frequency is close, a part of the iron should be exposed to just the right frequency
for the amount of magnetic flux. 
The trick is to get as much of the iron exposed to just the right magnetic field strength needed. 
Maybe that is the reason for using an electromagnet instead of a PM. 
The coil spreads the field out across a larger surface area.  Also increasing the current will increase field strength for tuning.
Maybe use 2 doughnut shaped magnetron magnets with a spiral coil pinned between them,
and then find the right NMR for their magnetic field strength.
But that would mean tuning the frequency, so a crystal signal wouldn't work.
Unless you had a fine adjustment to move the magnets back and forth for tuning.

All in all the device may work when properly tuned, but not keep working for extended time
because of getting out of adjustment to easily. 



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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2011, 10:00:31 PM »

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2011, 05:58:33 PM »
AbbaRue,  Thanks for you input and calcs on that.  Perhaps a sweep signal generator that sweeps up and down a range would help keep it running. 

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2012, 03:24:23 AM »
A rough interprestation of the French patent.  I'll try to clean it up a bit later as this was an OCR of an image of the text which was then translated with Google (and if you know how OCR works on images of text you know it doesn't always get things right - in this case I think some numbers got put in places where it failed to recognize text correctly):
EDIT: Cleaned up as much as I can:
Text from Cover page in patent: (54 - I think this #54 is an irrelevant number not talking about isotope - just a reference number) Activator for isotopic mutation.
(57 - irrelevant number) Power generator by nuclear resonant ferromagnetism consisting of a frame-shaped "U" mild steel containing a cylindrical bar of ferromagnetic fuel acted upon by at least 3 induction coils. The first is an electromagnet coil, the
second activator is a nuclear magnetic resonance, the third induction recovering energy present in the bar.
Device specifically designed to provide a commercially viable electric power and to make changes of isotopes.
FR2680613
page - 1 - DESCRIPTION
The present invention relates to a device for generating energy by nuclear resonant ferromagnetism.
Nuclear power is traditionally produced by fission or 'fusing atoms while the magnetic fluxes are in turn traditionally
obtained by induction caused by the movement of electrons.
The present invention uses a physical phenomenon that we have identified and we will call "Isotopic Mutation".
Description of the physical principle applied to the iron isotope 56:
The iron isotope 56 contains 26 protons, 26 electrons and 30 neutrons,
its total mass is 56.52 MeV, its actual weight being 55.80 MeV. The difference between the total mass and the actual

mass is 0.72 MeV which corresponds to a cohesive energy per nucleon of 0.012857 Mev.
If additional energy is introduced of 105 eV iron core isotope 56, that will have an energy level of cohesion per nucleon

of 0.012962 corresponding to the iron isotope Mev 54. The instability created by this energy input is a specific

radioactivity that will transfer the isotope 56 iron isotope 54 with a release of 2 neutrons which transform in 9 minutes in

Hydrogen by natural radioactivity.
This process will generate a gain of energy of 20,000 ev since the default mass of iron resulting 54 is only 0.70 MeV

instead of 0.72 MeV for iron isotope 56.
To make the iron core isotope 56 energy required to effect the isotopic mutation, we use the principle of reso-nance

nuclear magnetic.
The 26 protons in the iron isotope 56 are at the origin of magnetic moment that nuclear gyroscopic
 motion moved by a dependent of the actual mass of the iron core. The loss of mass caused by the phenomenon of

mutation will alter the isotopic gyroscopic moment and the energy return of by increasing the rotation speed.   The

physical phenomenon of isotopic mutation described above is applicable to all
of Mandeleiev body of the table.

page -2

The device of the invention is shown schematically in Figure 1 attached.

It consists of a metal piece of mild steel (1) in the form of "U" and a cylindrical bar (2) iron isotope 56 supporting the

different-5 annuities coils (3,4 and 5).

   The first coil (3) is a magnetic field generator

 A power of 0.5 Tesla to the orientation of the nuclear spins of the iron atoms 56.

-        The second coil (4) is traversed by a sine wave of 21 MHz frequency of 10 to the -4 Tesla power which is an

activator of Nuclear Magnetic Resonance observer permitting rotation of 180 ° of the nuclear spins of the iron atoms.

-       The third coil (5) constitutes a transformer primary, which collects the induction energy present in all points of the

bar created  by changing the isotope of iron atoms in iron 56 54.

The recovered energy can then be transformed in a form commercially exploitable (110-220-380 voltage V and

frequency 50 to 400 Hz).

The basic application that results is the creation of autonomous electrical generator. The particularity of this new

generator is that it uses a bar ferromagnetic metal as fuel giving it considerable autonomy and a very low cost of

ownership. This electrical or magnetic energy can also be used in all systems such as inverters, motors and engines.

The second application is the resulting transformation of isotope using the same principle described in figure 1 as with

magnetic core (2) to transform the metal and adjusting the setting values of the various components to match the

mutation achieve.

2680613

page 3 - CLAIM

1) flow generating device magneto-nuclear characterized in that it comprises a metal frame in the form of "U" (1), a

ferromagnetic metal bar (2) representing the magnetic core of the induction coils (3,4 and 5).

2) Device according to claim N ° 1, characterized in that the first coil (3) is an electromagnet, the second coil (4) is an

activator for the sine wave nuclear magnetic resonance of the magnetic core and the third coil (5) is the transducing

element of internal flows of nuclear origin which recovers energy in all points of the bar (2).

3)        Device according to claim # 2 characterized in that internal flows of nuclear origin allow to obtain a magnetic or

electrical energy commercially exploitable.

4)        Device according to claim 1 and N ° 2 characterized in that the change of the adjustment parameters of the coils

and the magnetic core thereof would enable the system to make changes to other isotopes of elements Table of

Mandeleiev.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2012, 04:55:09 AM by e2matrix »

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2012, 03:24:23 AM »
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2012, 07:22:39 PM »

I agree this topic needs to be checked out further and it just occurred to me that getting fairly high power at this frequency is not that difficult if you have an old HAM radio HF transmitter.  Easy to do 21 Mhz with one and just use an audio sig gen for input to the transmitter for a sine wave or square wave if that's what is needed.   That will be way cheaper than a signal generator that can hit 21 Mhz as ones that go that high tend to be very expensive.  This sounds like a fairly easy project waiting to happen ;)  Does anyone have any thoughts on how much DC voltage and current might be needed for the 1/2 Tesla ?

Assuming my math is anywhere near correct... :-)  Remeber... the first coil is DC, not AC.

B = NIu / L

or

NI = BL / u

Where:

B = magnetic field in Tesla
N = number of turns of wire
I = current (amps)
u = permeability of the core
L = length of magnetic field

Items that are missing and assumptions I made:

+ No dimensions given.  Assuming deivce is 6" (inches) high by 9" wide (by 4" deep, but that doesn't come into play) (or a magnetic path, L, of approximately 26" or 0.6604m)

+ No specifics on material other than "soft iron".  Best value I've found on the 'Net for permeability is relative permeability = about 5000 for "soft iron"

u0 = permeability of air = 4 PI (10^-7)
uR = relative permeability = u / u0
 
Therefore:
uR(soft iron) = u(soft iron) / u0
u(soft iron) = uR(soft iron) * u0 = 5000 * 4 PI (10^-7) = about 0.006283

So...

NI = 0.5T * 0.6604m / 0.006283 = about 52.555

So that leaves you with essentially a ratio.  Your turns of wire multiplied by the DC current you're feeding it totals about 52.5.

Or:

+ 1 Amp, 52.5 turns
+ 0.5 A, 105 turns
+ 0.25 A, 211 turns (for more precision)
+ 2 A, 26.25 turns 

...and so on.


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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2012, 07:31:23 PM »
I'd originally done the same calculations for the 10 milli-Tesla @ 21 MHz coil, but then realized that the 21 MHz is well above the iron bar's "flat" permeability graph.  Looking for approximations now of the permeability of the iron at 21 MHz, but it's looking like it's very poor.

[Edit]
Okay, it looks like there isn't any information on this freely available.  Formulas that contain symbols without explanations, links to abstracts that you need to be a member of a society to read, references to other "well known" (but not well documented) formulas, etc.

Imperical testing will probably be the only solution in this case, unless someone reading this happens to have a doctorate in electromagnetics?

What I did find, however, was that it looks like the permeability of some (if not all) ferromagnetic materials levels off again after a certain frequency, then drops again at a higher frequency, so it may not be quite as poor as I first suspected.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 10:17:43 PM by electro1574 »

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2012, 11:19:59 PM »
electro1574,  Thanks for all your help and calcs.  I gave this a quick and dirty try recently with no real indication of any power out but it was probably seriously flawed in many ways.  Now that I've got some numbers I'll probably have another go at it.  I was not able to do any tuning in my first attempt without concern of damaging the transmitter so I've also got that to work out.   Thanks again for the help.

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2012, 11:52:38 PM »
Good luck e2matrix.  Given lack of information, I'm moving onto something else (and probably just as annoying :-) .

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2012, 11:15:29 PM »
Hi all :)

So it appears my team stumbled upon same effect as it continues from pre-2nd world war experiments with material isotope conversion to lower one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk
And that is mentioned also in http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mmcgen.htm
Also it is all over in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer and in http://www.e-catworld.com/

Just I need to warn you about safety because people nearby seem to get same effects as irradiation: headache for 1 week and even vomiting if they are close enough... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_syndrome
As http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron says, the free neutron beta decay is 15 minutes and that is where possible beta radiation comes from device.

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2012, 03:31:28 PM »

Circular Polarization and Nonreciprocal Propagation in Magnetic Media:

http://www.ll.mit.edu/publications/journal/pdf/vol15_no2/15_2-10.pdf


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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2012, 01:57:54 AM »
Hi all :)

So it appears my team stumbled upon same effect as it continues from pre-2nd world war experiments with material isotope conversion to lower one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk
And that is mentioned also in http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mmcgen.htm
Also it is all over in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer and in http://www.e-catworld.com/

Just I need to warn you about safety because people nearby seem to get same effects as irradiation: headache for 1 week and even vomiting if they are close enough... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_syndrome
As http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron says, the free neutron beta decay is 15 minutes and that is where possible beta radiation comes from device.

Hi T-1000,  Thanks for the info.  What frequency were you using for ferrite resonance?  Was this part of the Kapanadze experiments? 

  Not too worried about radiation as I've got multiple quality radiation detectors that cover beta, gamma and other harmful sources.   This experiment is mostly on hold now anyway as too many other priorities. 

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2012, 12:25:56 PM »
Hi T-1000,  Thanks for the info.  What frequency were you using for ferrite resonance?  Was this part of the Kapanadze experiments? 

  Not too worried about radiation as I've got multiple quality radiation detectors that cover beta, gamma and other harmful sources.   This experiment is mostly on hold now anyway as too many other priorities.

We had reonance about 1,3 Mhz on copper plates and resonant harmonic  frequency about 300Khz on 50T coil while we were feeding magnetizing 50Hz frequency on 15T coil. The ferrite core was black color and most comon in exUSSR.
Most common ferrite cores you can find are gray color and their resonant frequency is much higher (up to 25-30 Mhz).

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2012, 01:52:55 AM »
With the TV yoke core I have wound, I get a primary resonance just under 3MHz. Still too high for my equipment.  :-\

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2012, 11:11:00 AM »
With the TV yoke core I have wound, I get a primary resonance just under 3MHz. Still too high for my equipment.  :-\
Do you think it's the LC resonance or NMR resonance?
BTW: At how many turns and what value of the perpendicular B-field does this occur?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2012, 09:49:01 PM »
We had reonance about 1,3 Mhz on copper plates and resonant harmonic  frequency about 300Khz on 50T coil while we were feeding magnetizing 50Hz frequency on 15T coil. The ferrite core was black color and most comon in exUSSR.
Most common ferrite cores you can find are gray color and their resonant frequency is much higher (up to 25-30 Mhz).
Hi T-1000 ,
Today I second time begin turn my yoke device .
Here I want to sent to you characteristics scope curves
of old russian ferrite .
In signal was square pulse , 9.404V amplitude , 44% duty cycle .
Scope was connected via antenuator  1-100 .
Interesting that highest amplitude was at 7mHz frequency . Output was
pure sine wave .
 At 1.66mHz and 533 mHz there are some peaks but output signals were not
pure sine wave .
 May be better is to tune yoke device to another frequencies that Aidas did before ?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2012, 09:07:44 AM »
Today I second time begin turn my yoke device .
Here I want to sent to you characteristics scope curves
of old russian ferrite .
In signal was square pulse , 9.404V amplitude , 44% duty cycle .
Scope was connected via antenuator  1-100 .
Interesting that highest amplitude was at 7mHz frequency . Output was pure sine wave .
At 1.66mHz and 533 mHz there are some peaks but output signals were not pure sine wave .
May be better is to tune yoke device to another frequencies that Aidas did before ?
Nice to see you here again.

To stimulate NMR, the 2 magnetic fields must be perpendicular to each other in space.
One of those perpendicular fields can be constant and the other must be pulsating... or if both perpendicular fields are pulsating, then they should be phase-shifted 90 degrees out of phase.
The phase shift can be produced by two generators ...or one generator feeding unequal inductances or capacitances.
The latter happens because in any inductor, the current is phase-shifted and lags behind the generator output (and if there is any capacitance then the current gets ahead of the generator). "ELI the ICE man."

I am not clear how you arranged the windings on your Yoke core this time.
Where did you feed your signals and where did you measure?

P.S.
It's possible to stimulate with an electric field too, but had not mentioned it because the Yoke device does not have any open capacitive plates for the application of electric fields, e.g. the copper plates are looped and closed.
BTW: Are you using a 1-turn copper braid or a 1-turn copper foil  ?
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