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Offline jan.kolar

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 10:51:31 AM »
Unfortunately, there is no any test results available from any other experimenters. Maybe the Chech patent partners could be asked on some details...

http://isdv.upv.cz/portal/pls/portal/portlets.pts.det?xprim=186605&lan=en

As you can see patent 284333 is already expired in czech republic (probably in year 2008). Standard period for invention protection is 10 years. If inventor does not prolong this period then patent is no longer valid.

Patent holders besides Michel Meyer are Simona Pustejovska, Jaroslav Holy and Jana Mickova, all from Novy Jicin, CZ. I havent found any contact on them but my guess is that they were only translators. This idea is supported by fact that Simona Pustejovska published in year 2000 bachelor work with title "Podoba a fungovani francouzskych regionu" which means "State and functioning of french regions". She has been studying on Charles University in Prague, Faculty of social sciences. It can be some another Simona Pustejovska however.
Patent representative was Ing. Iva Rylkova, i found email contact on her and wrote her what she remembers from Meyer invention. She was working in patent office in Ostrava. Her job was to help inventors to apply for patent (bureaucracy). But i havent found her in actual business register of Czech republic so maybe email address is old.

Do you know something more about "nuclear magnetic resonance"?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 10:51:31 AM »

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 12:45:03 PM »
Iva Rylkova replied me that she has no active contact to any of the inventors. Maybe if some of you live in French near Asnieres s/Oise could contact inventor. His first patent FR 2385255 is from year 1978 so if he lives is probably above fifty years old. Main problem is if he would permit to open-source his invention. Maybe that his french patents 2,385,255 & 2,680,613 are too expired. Unfortunately i dont understant french, can someone of you see website of french patent office (http://www.inpi.fr/) for this information?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 04:47:59 PM »
92-U-235
( U-235 is also called actinouranium )
U-235(n,f) is standard for neutron cross section below 20 MeV.
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Atomic Mass: 235.0439231 ± 0.0000021 amu
Excess Mass: 40914.062 ± 1.970 keV
Binding Energy: 1783870.285 ± 1.996 keV
Beta Decay Energy: B- -123.716 ± 0.869 keV

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Atomic Percent Abundance: 0.720% 1
Spin: 7/2-
Half life: 703.8E+6 Y ( 0.0710 % )
Mode of decay: Alpha to Th-231
Decay energy: 4.679 MeV
Mode of decay: SF
Branch ratio: 7.0E-9
Mode of decay: NEC
Branch ratio: 8E-10

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Meta state at 0.000 Mev
Spin: 1/2+
Half life: 25 M
Mode of decay: IT

Possible parent nuclides:
Beta from Pa-235
Electron capture from Np-235
Alpha from Pu-239

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Total Cross Section

at 0.0253 eV = 698.2 b
Maxwell avg. at 0.0253 eV = 608.4 b
at 14 MeV = 5.865 b
Fission spectrum avg. = 7.705 b
g-factor = 0.9833
Elastic Scattering Cross Section

at 0.0253 eV = 15.04 b
Maxwell avg. at 0.0253 eV = 14.95 b
at 14 MeV = 2.871 b
Fission spectrum avg. = 4.566 b
g-factor = 1.1215
Total Inelastic Cross Section

at 14 MeV = 350.3 mb
Fission spectrum avg. = 1.804 b
(n,2n) Cross Section

at 14 MeV = 542.9 mb
Fission spectrum avg. = 11.56 mb
(n,3n) Cross Section

at 14 MeV = 41.79 mb
Fission spectrum avg. = 7.074 micro barn
Total Fission Cross Section

at 0.0253 eV = 584.4 b
Maxwell avg. at 0.0253 eV = 506.8 b
Resonance integral = 278.1 b
at 14 MeV = 2.056 b
Fission spectrum avg. = 1.235 b
g-factor = 0.9786
(n,4n) Cross Section

Fission spectrum avg. = 0.008408 micro barn
Radiative Capture Cross Section

at 0.0253 eV = 98.81 b
Maxwell avg. at 0.0253 eV = 86.67 b
Resonance integral = 133.0 b
at 14 MeV = 0.1607 micro barn
Fission spectrum avg. = 89.07 mb
g-factor = 0.9898

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 03:51:28 PM »

Do you know something more about "nuclear magnetic resonance"?

Hi Jan,

Thanks for your excellent "detective" work on the Chech patent, and it sounds reasonable the Chech "inventors" may have been translators. It is a pity that the patent representative cannot help either.

Unfortunately I do not speak French either and hopefully some French members here may locate Meyer in France, it would a great help to learn some insider info...   

In the meantime I understood that neutron particles have surely a bad effect on living tissues sorry that I wrote the process is not harmful.

Re on your question of the nuclear magnetic resonance, now I know it only from wikipedia google searches, that is all.

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 04:39:28 PM »
There are two things noteworthy on Meyer invention:
1. Direct conversion between nuclear energy and electrical energy. Nuclear power plants are using substantially more complicate system (nuclear energy -> heat -> mechanical energy -> electrical energy)

2. Controlling of radioactive processes by aplied electro-magnetic fields. I have found another patents referenced from FR2,680,613 (on espacenet.com) that claim to be using this core principle:

a) GB 763,062. UTILIZING ENERGY OF RADIOACTIVE SUBSTANCES. COLMAN, H. V., and GILLESPIE, R. W. D. SEDDON-. Sept. 22, 1954 [June 22, 1953], No. 17167/53. Drawings to Specification. Class 39(4). A mixture of salts of cadmium, phosphorus and cobalt is subjected to high frequency electromagnetic waves so as to become radioactive and release electrical energy. The mixture is contained in a quartz tube and protection from the gamma, alpha and beta rays is given by lead shielding. The electrical output, stated to be D.C. is taken directly from the ends of the quartz tube.

b) EP 0243149 (1987-10-28) from Brown Paul M [US], Nucell Inc [US]. APPARATUS FOR DIRECT CONVERSION OF RADIOACTIVE DECAY ENERGY TO ELECTRICAL ENERGY. A nuclear battery in which the energy imparted to radioactive decay products during the spontaneous disintegrations of radioactive material is utilized to sustain and amplify the oscillations in a high-Q LC tank circuit is provided. The circuit inductance comprises a coil wound on a core composed of radioactive nuclides connected in series with the primary winding of a power transformer. The core is fabricated from a mixture of three radioactive materials which decay primarily by alpha emission and provides a greater flux of radioactive decay products than the equivalent amount of a single radioactive nuclide.

c) EP 0099946 (1984-02-08) from Reiss Howard R. [US], University Patents Inc [US]. METHOD AND APARATUS FOR INDUCED NUCLEAR BETA DECAY. Certain nuclear beta decay transitions, normally inhibited by angular momentum or parity considerations can be induced to occur by the application of an electromagnetic field. The energy released by these induced nuclear transitions is useful for the controlled production of power. These induced beta decay transitions are also useful to reduce the halflives of long-lived fission product wastes from nuclear fission power plants. Theoretical results are given for induced beta decay halflives as a function of the intensity of the applied field. The nuclides that can be treated in this way are all those found in Nature which are potentially useful energy sources, as well as <9><0>Sr and <1><3><7>Cs-- the most radioactive of fission wastes.; It is shown that electromagnetic fields of the type and intensity required to achieve useful power production and/or fission waste disposal can be produced in a practical way.
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There seems that NMR is quite mastered by conventional science but only in passive way (for example to analyze structure of matter in computer tomography).

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2009, 01:19:49 AM »
http://isdv.upv.cz/portal/pls/portal/portlets.pts.det?xprim=186605&lan=en

As you can see patent 284333 is already expired in czech republic (probably in year 2008). Standard period for invention protection is 10 years. If inventor does not prolong this period then patent is no longer valid.

Patent holders besides Michel Meyer are Simona Pustejovska, Jaroslav Holy and Jana Mickova, all from Novy Jicin, CZ. I havent found any contact on them but my guess is that they were only translators. This idea is supported by fact that Simona Pustejovska published in year 2000 bachelor work with title "Podoba a fungovani francouzskych regionu" which means "State and functioning of french regions". She has been studying on Charles University in Prague, Faculty of social sciences. It can be some another Simona Pustejovska however.
Patent representative was Ing. Iva Rylkova, i found email contact on her and wrote her what she remembers from Meyer invention. She was working in patent office in Ostrava. Her job was to help inventors to apply for patent (bureaucracy). But i havent found her in actual business register of Czech republic so maybe email address is old.

Do you know something more about "nuclear magnetic resonance"?
Hi Jan,
there were some attempts in former Czechoslovakia to confirm Meyer's work as far as I know. But it's so difficult to get any information - maybe you have seen this picture?

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2009, 08:57:33 PM »
Hi All,

I'd checked their patents database and it don't find both patents,  that means they are not in force!.
Of course if You want to be absolutely sure You have to pay 6,5 euro for official paper about patent status.

Kolec

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2010, 11:17:00 PM »
Hello all - a very interesting topic !

Just my 2 penneth worth...

Last summer (2009), I was performing some modifications to my latest plasma speaker system.

The system runs at approx 100Khz, 30V Sq. AC with a low duty cycle / M-S ratio of <10%

In testing, I noticed the cable connecting the controller PCB output to the transformer was becoming exceptionally hot, to the degree that the insulation was starting to become soft and melt.

The input power, 30V DC @ 2A (60W) to the controller, was consistent with previous 'runs', the ONLY difference being the length of the cable used on this particular occasion.....

The unit performed exactly as in previous tests, with the same power consumption & same plasma output. NO RF was picked up around the cable, which I guess rules-out inductive heating.

It was only when I stumbled across Michel Meyer's work, that I noticed a correlation.

For what it's worth, the cable length used was 55.5cm, composed of twin, 80 x 0.18 CU wire.

When changing the interconnect to a different length, the cable runs stone-cold, with exactly the same power consumption and plasma output as before.

Please note, there is no tuned circuit involved, so this cannot be a factor in the heating.

Some of my videos of the project are here, including a TV job :

http://www.youtube.com/user/timetec


It would be interesting to hear any thoughts on this very strange phenomenon.

Cheers from England, Richard ;)

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2010, 11:44:45 PM »
Hello all - a very interesting topic !

Just my 2 penneth worth...

Last summer (2009), I was performing some modifications to my latest plasma speaker system.

The system runs at approx 100Khz, 30V Sq. AC with a low duty cycle / M-S ratio of <10%

In testing, I noticed the cable connecting the controller PCB output to the transformer was becoming exceptionally hot, to the degree that the insulation was starting to become soft and melt.

The input power, 30V DC @ 2A (60W) to the controller, was consistent with previous 'runs', the ONLY difference being the length of the cable used on this particular occasion.....

The unit performed exactly as in previous tests, with the same power consumption & same plasma output. NO RF was picked up around the cable, which I guess rules-out inductive heating.

It was only when I stumbled across Michel Meyer's work, that I noticed a correlation.

For what it's worth, the cable length used was 55.5cm, composed of twin, 80 x 0.18 CU wire.

When changing the interconnect to a different length, the cable runs stone-cold, with exactly the same power consumption and plasma output as before.

Please note, there is no tuned circuit involved, so this cannot be a factor in the heating.

Some of my videos of the project are here, including a TV job :

http://www.youtube.com/user/timetec


It would be interesting to hear any thoughts on this very strange phenomenon.

Cheers from England, Richard ;)
hi timetec.

i just wanted to say when i first saw your plasma speaker a year and a half ago, your beautiful build inspired me to build one of my own. thanks.

i have not noticed the phenom you mentioned, i might have to dig it out and play with some wire lengths... i am using a single 555 circuit, single fet.

thompson twins... great choice!

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2010, 12:09:00 AM »
Hi - thanks, good to hear you had a go at constructing one yourself :)

I can only concluded that something is happening within the copper cable itself...

No extra power input / no extra power output, but excessive heating of the cable between the source and load.

I tried using a primary only at the time (with no HV winding) - just the same heating effect - very odd.
The problem is actually metering the cable - a standard AC clamp-meter will not to give a reliable current reading at >100Khz AC especially with such a short M-S ratio.


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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2011, 07:20:41 PM »
@SD

Thanks for this diagram. I wanted to put a better translation as follows;

Start
To shake atoms so they render the energy they contain, you must send via a high frequency oscillator (in the order of 173 kHz) a wave that is in resonance with the vibration of the copper electrodes ie electrons. This is via an oscillating magnetic field thanks to the coil winding that is connected to the oscillator and that covers the copper. One part of the feed current is used to polarize the metal that restitutes (gives back) up to 30 times the energy consumed by the oscillator.
End

So in general, the oscillator is pulsing current onto the copper rod and there is another wire from the positive of the battery that goes through a diode and a resistor so only a small portion of the battery power is used to ensure the copper rod s polarized in a fixed manner to initiate a steady positive/negative output off the copper rod. If copper was magnetic, you could have used a magnet to do the same polarization, but since it is not, a small current on one side will do the same thing.

Interesting indeed.

Thanks again.

wattsup

Hello all,
I am new here, congrats all for the great site!
Let's say i'm interested in the device of Meyer, that being main reason for which i signed up.
I think "electrodes" is just a misspell for "electrons", not a big deal!
In the French paper the author says the coil ENGULFS the copper core, not only "over" it. I thought that might be of interest.
All NMR devices use an external strong (so far 20T biggest i heard of) magnetic field to "polarize" the magnetic spins of the atoms, Meyer's device presented in the French paper was based on Copper which is nonmagnetic, a bit diamagnetic like superconductors, i might add! AC magnetic field WILL REPEL COPPER AND ALUMINIUM, very interesting too! The repelling force is 4x greater than the attraction force. Polarization obtained by connecting the + of the source through a diode on the copper core, i think that is really very smart. Also Meyer didn't make any direct reference to copper rod in his patent which is about iron core transmutation from FE56-FE54. Maybe anyone around here can think of what transmutation copper is having in that experiment from the French paper. My bet would be 65Cu-63Cu, both stable, both same nuclear spin. Problem is 65Cu is 30%, not so easy to find. It's just an opinion, but i wouldn't mess with 63Cu to 61Cu!
« Last Edit: April 17, 2011, 09:43:40 PM by bblindman »

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2011, 07:25:11 PM »
The copper device and the Iron Isotope device work on different principals it seems.  The copper device vibrates the copper atoms eiether atomically (atomic resonance) or the rod (mechanical resonance).  Neither of these methods is used in the Iron Isotope. 

The Iron Isotope device uses atomic resonance and a Very Strong magnetic field (.5 tesla strength) to create Atomic Decay of the iron isotope, to Change it from isotope 56 to 54 or something like that. Look up Iron isotope on Wikipedia. The iron Isotope device becomes Nuclear Particle radioactive!!! Dangerous! Don't built it without a lead shield or something of that nature!

-saintsnick
Both use NMR, obvious the Copper bar is "magnetized" by polarsiation.  The iron bar can be magnetized by a Ne permanent magnet (for which 1.5 Tesla is comon, so 0.5 even lower). About "nuclear particle radioactive" i am not sure so i checked, that's what i found out:
it seems Fe54 is NATURALLY occuring under 6%, it is radioactive BUT considered STABLE (with 300x10 pwr20 halflife) here is what i found on American Elements (one can even buy it online from them!!!):
Iron 54 Metal (Iron-54) is a stable (non-radioactive because of long halflife) isotope of Iron. See below table for ENSDF Citation and Half Life. It is both naturally occurring and produced by fission. Iron 54 Metal is one of over 250 stable Metallic isotopes produced by American Elements for biological and biomedical labeling, as target materials and other applications. Iron Metal 54 additionally has special application in the research to develop successful interventions for anemia, conditions for effective iron absorption and excretion, metabolic tracer studies to identify genetic iron control mechanisms, and energy expenditure studies. Iron Metal is also available in ultra high purity and as nanoparticles. For thin film applications it is available as rod, pellets, pieces, granules and sputtering targets and as either an ingot or powder. Iron Metal 54 isotopic material is generally immediately available. Additional technical, research and safety (MSDS) information is available as is a Reference Calculator for converting relevant units of measurement.
I am just a humble electro eng.,nuclear power is totally out of my calender, but i saw some posts here, with some questionable opinions about it and i wanted it sorted out, sorry for the long post! Mainline: Fe54 IS SAFE!
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2011, 07:29:18 PM »
It is a subharmonic. The article stipulates that there is a resonance of the copper atoms at the frequency of 172 753.867 Hz due to the induction field. The frequency must be extremely accurate because it must fit the exact much higher harmonic at which the atoms vibrate.

Note that "science et vie" is a popularization publication not very serious. "Renaud de la Taille" was an enthusiastic journalist but has not a solid scientifical background. The key questions are not asked: what is the frequency of the output current? Why is there this aberrant "polarization" circuit with a diode?... and so on...
The "aberant" polarization with a diode is simply because output current is AC at 100-1000Hz (according to the paper :)  ), u dont want your input source shorted, do you?
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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2011, 03:06:09 PM »
This topic should NOT die, please notice that this simple device was in range of replication by equipment standards around when Tesla was very active in his experiments and even earlier by natural means.   NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance) seems to be key to mutation of perhaps ALL elements and can be coaxed from many stable isotope.  We don't have to be using HF when the harmonics will do and this also points to a way in which nature is doing it.  There must be a connection with the natural frequency of the planet or solar system moving our elements from decay to decay until they are cold and their total energy is exhausted (which is what we call the black particle just before rebirth into pure energy again).

Edited (Why can't I ever get it right the first time, lol)

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Re: Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2011, 12:46:38 AM »
I agree this topic needs to be checked out further and it just occurred to me that getting fairly high power at this frequency is not that difficult if you have an old HAM radio HF transmitter.  Easy to do 21 Mhz with one and just use an audio sig gen for input to the transmitter for a sine wave or square wave if that's what is needed.   That will be way cheaper than a signal generator that can hit 21 Mhz as ones that go that high tend to be very expensive.  This sounds like a fairly easy project waiting to happen ;)  Does anyone have any thoughts on how much DC voltage and current might be needed for the 1/2 Tesla ?

 

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