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MrSpates

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Resonance meter
« on: March 21, 2008, 04:43:54 AM »
I have a question. Is there such a machine or device that can measure the natural frequency of a given object? Like a stone or a piece of wood? I'm interested in resonance. (and yes I've read about the earthquake machine) I'd like to measure the natural frequency in Hertz of an object and replicate it. My next question would probably be is there a tunable device that would allow you to resonate something at its natural frequency? I've looked at such things as frequency generators, resonance meters, mechanical oscillators, but don't quiet understand how I could go about doing something like this, or maybe its just wishfull thinking?

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 03:02:28 PM »
I'm working on a device to 'scan' the electromagnetic resonance of an inductor or capacitor.


MrSpates

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 06:06:59 PM »
No, what I'm talking about is.....everything in this world vibrates at some frequency. You vibrate, trees vibrate, rocks vibrate, the earth vibrates. it is called the "natural frequency" or resonance of a given object. What I want is a way to measure these natural frequencies and a device that will replicate it.
It is by the way, how Tesla's earthquake machine was built. He had a machine that he could adjust to the natural frequencies of an object.

amigo

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2008, 01:52:39 AM »
I think you will soon realize that any object does not have one single resonant frequency because it is composed of many substances/materials. Each substance/material has its own set of frequencies and then each element in them has its own. Granted, finding a single resonant frequency that would break one object apart would probably consist of finding the most predominant substance or element in that object and then target that. Just an idea... :)

MrSpates

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 05:04:03 AM »
I think you will soon realize that any object does not have one single resonant frequency because it is composed of many substances/materials. Each substance/material has its own set of frequencies and then each element in them has its own. Granted, finding a single resonant frequency that would break one object apart would probably consist of finding the most predominant substance or element in that object and then target that. Just an idea... :)


Yes, finding the most predominant substance and breaking it apart would disintegrate the material as it would in a sense unglue everything. Think of the possibilities, you could turn a tree into sawdust, a stone into sand. Such an invention would be very dangerous if the wrong people were to get ahold of it, guess thats why its not around, still I'd love to experiment with it if I knew how to measure and replicate such frequencies.

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 05:56:49 AM »
For electrical resonance have alook at http://www.wb0w.com/mfj/ant_anal/mfj201.html

Conventionally thought-of electrical resonance is much simpler than those you seek. You should find vibrational resonance of non-electronic objects is a bit more complex. I doubt you will find a single frequency that isn't coupled to two or more frequencies for mass.

The stereo idea is a good one except make it quadraphonic and be set up to pipe a different frequency into each channel. I would think the frequencies needed would be in the audible range, or just above, for almost any item. Get some ear-pugs and safety glasses - even for low volume  :)
Glue a small mirror to the object and shoot the mirror with a laser pointer and watch the reflected spot on the wall.

Have fun!

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 07:31:02 PM »
I have a question. Is there such a machine or device that can measure the natural frequency of a given object? Like a stone or a piece of wood? I'm interested in resonance.

Hello, Im also interested in the subject. You need resonance to extract useful energy from aether.
One thought I got when I read you text was ... a patent by T. G. Hieronymous: "DETECTION OF EMANATIONS FROM MATERIALS AND MEASUREMENT OF THE VOLUMES THEREOF" US Pat. 2,482,773 ...
The methods used there are more radionic than scientificially accepted methods of measuring but nevertheless it is working. You subconscious are asking and the device lifts your subconscious knowledge into higher level of mind. I have seen a PAPER VERSION of this device ... still works. And it also works when you forgot to turn on the electricity ... Strange that the patent even was granted :-) Wasnt treatening anything perhaps?
I think it is not that far fetched to use radionics to measure resonance, than when Telsa test-built his devices in his mind over and over again before he had perfected the device.
Same nature, same phenomena: resonance
Also Patent US5744715 is another patent on the same idea.

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 04:20:04 AM »
if you could think of a way to project your frequentcies over a distance... you could technically have the worlds most pwerful weapon... if you can convert the water in a persons body into Hydrogen and Oxygen almost instantly i reckon you could be a very rich man. if i were you i would look at ways to project adjustable frequentcies over a distance. The actual frequentcy of specific items is potentially useless unless you are only using it on compounds of that nature... think of it as needing tuning depending on the quantity of said material in an object...

Good luck though

TinselKoala

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 05:59:59 AM »
It would depend on the object and whether you wanted to excite mechanical or electrical resonances.
If I wanted to excite a mechanical resonance in a rock, or a crystal, for example, I'd glue a piezoelectric transducer to a flat spot, and another one to another spot. Then I'd drive one with a sweep generator and monitor the voltage output of the other one. When the voltage out peaks, then I've found a resonance. There will be several, in any real object.
You may like to download and watch this video I made where I resonate a piezoelectric transducer and its mounting, and show more voltage out than I am putting in.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ilznj3tqzyo

Of course you could set your rock down on a paper diagram of a Heironymous machine--but I'm pretty sure my method will work better.

ramset

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 11:51:10 PM »
Tinsel Koala
 That last sentence was definitely the funniest thing I've seen you write
  The piezoelectric idea, Brilliant!!
  How would you approach a fluid ?
   Chet


TinselKoala

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 02:56:53 AM »
Thanks, I think.
How would I approach a fluid?
Depends on the fluid...Scots whiskey, I approach with glee...

Seriously, it would depend on the purpose and which resonance I wanted to excite.
Many so-called fluid resonances are actually acoustic resonances of the chamber containing the fluid...

Are we trying to dissociate water into hydrogen and oxygen using resonant oscillations from a TC? I don't know if that can be done, really. The bond resonance frequencies may be too high. But certainly the secondary discharge can dissociate water.

But to first order, if you are looking for acoustical or other mechanical resonances, you can do the same thing as with the rock, with a couple of appropriate piezo sensors. You can even do it with only one piezo, if you monitor the power to it, because when you hit a resonance you will generally see the driving piezo power dip.
For higher-frequency electrical resonances the same ideas apply, you just use different transducers, depending on your theory. You could stick plates in the water, pretend it's a capacitor, put it in an LC circuit and sweep the inductance. If you hit a resonance you'll see it in the power trace. You could wrap a sensing coil around the tank, feed RF into the tank with another coil.


ramset

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Re: Resonance meter
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 02:38:48 PM »
TinselKoala
Im not aloud to use whiskey in my experiments anymore [very sad    >:(]
However THANK YOU for sharing your ideas on this
I appreciate your contributions to this forum IMMENSELY {as I am quite sure others do also]
  Chet