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z.monkey

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2008, 04:17:33 PM »
Uh, I started from scratch.  Theory up...
Go read the Soft Particle Physics thread.
I would like to think we are more than a bunch of mindless bloggers...
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2008, 11:05:25 PM »
z.monkey, I did read what your opinion was in that thread and it was quite interesting, something?s I can agree with where as others cant seem to agree with.

 I am glad that you have started from scratch and I wish more would. I don't expect you to agree with my opinionated conclusion nor should I or anyone else be expected to agree with any ones opinionated conclusion because at this time, none of us can be proven right or wrong. I would how ever suggest that we all keep an open mind to what others opinions are and try to see things as they do. This does make for good debates as long as everyone can stay within the realm of respect.

 It is impossible for us to say what came first at this time and I doubt that we will ever know. I believe that alone has brought most of mankind to think of the creator of all as a god.

 I can not say there is or isn't a god nor can anyone else, we can assume and hope but reality is, we will never know until we die if indeed there is a life after death. I personally feel that the assumption should be given the benefit of the doubt and I try to think of a mystical god as to what I feel is right and wrong. I will never believe in anyone?s else?s mystical god nor will I ever agree with the teachings of a mystical god because to me that is much more far fetched then reality and we cant even figure out what is real, what makes people think we can figure out what a mystical god is and then to say what a god would want and not want. LOL

 Common sense is very limited with in humanity and forums like this one and others are prime examples.

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2008, 11:48:03 PM »
Nomen luni, I have done a few expirements as well as I have viewed hundreds of others. I am working on two as we speak.

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2008, 11:48:55 PM »
So, your saying we need more astrophysics major, do-it-your-selfers?
I can commiserate...

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2008, 12:01:15 AM »
z.monkey, in a sense, yes. Although I believe most are "do-it-your-selfers" but they tend to base their opinions on others opinions with out really thinking hard about it themselves.

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2008, 12:33:49 AM »
I love this forum. It is so rich in alternative information. You hear so much about things being discovered in physics, but here, you see ideas and inventions being born. When people come along *cough*omnibus*cough* and try to constantly attack builders, and attempt to stop experimentation do to there inability to respect imagination, I get angry. I wonder, why? Whats the point? If you believe they will fail then let them figure it out. It isn't their place to tell someone who is trying to experiment to stop. Something is deeply wrong with that. Because if your wrong, then the invention may work. WHATS WRONG WITH IT WORKING? BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU THOUGHT WRONG? There is nothing wrong with that feeling. It's called learning. Get used to it.

-A message to all close minded skeptics

nightlife

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2008, 02:40:57 AM »
Nomen luni, sorry for that assumption. I have been getting attacked a lot lately and that makes me a bit defensive.

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2008, 03:05:44 AM »
Well, we are chasing the free energy demon.  This has ramifications all the way from quantum physics to astrophysics.  Zero point energy is cracking the energy out of the ether with the electromagnetic null zone.  While other technologies require a star system to operate, such as solar panels and soft particle reactors.  Yet there are numerous others that are somewhere in the middle, such as gravity wheels or wind power, or sea wave conversion.  What about watermills or inductive kickback generators.  You might term this new science as Free Energy Physics, or Overunity Physics and they literally encompass all science that came before it.

Probably the most difficult task that modern man has endeavored to accomplish.

I know we will all have fun with that, in the mean time I am damn tired...

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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2008, 12:06:28 PM »
Hi z.monkey, is this a picture of your most favorite device? how does it work?

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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2008, 12:14:03 PM »
Howdy,
Go check out the Soft Particle Physics thread.
Blessed Be...

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2008, 02:32:52 PM »
Why are people discussing what other people think?

I belive this forum exist so everyone can expose their thinking and receive feedback from others.

You can do brainstorming here, if you like what someone thinks, you like it, if you don't... well...

I never seen Stefan reject somebody's opinion just because he don't like it.

I could tell you that mayor people here are failing to achieve overunity because they are seeking the meaning of the word overunity, trying to rip "well known" phisics laws, instead of trying to build machines that extract more energy than needed for operating the machine, like i said before, how many energy is contained on TNT, how many energy you need to make TNT explode, how many energy TNT relases when explodes.  For me, that's overunity... you are not creating energy, you just found a way to get more for less, no matter how or where was that exceding energy contained.  But somebody will say that's not overunity.

Now... somebody will try to make shame on me because for what i think?  If you don't like it, what can i do?

For me, is interesting to see (as Yoda says), people  complaining for opinions of people who don't make the experiment but give an opinion.  We know we are not Einstein, but he just came with theories without any prior test, and see what happened for example with atomic bomb.  They (cientific crew) was seeking a way to "implode" the atom, because Einstein had the theory that way the atom could fragment...  And you seen Nagasaki and Hirochima.

If i have an opinion, and belive me Stefan will allow everyone to post their opinions... i will post it... if you can prove i'm wrong, do it, and belive me that if you prove i'm wrong, i will be happy and will thank you, but if you cannot prove i'm worng... please, respect my or anybody else opinion.

We are all seeking the same.

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2008, 05:13:56 PM »
@ z.monkey

i like your pic there

looks like it works well

almost like my MOTOR AIDER  INDUCTIVE KICKBACK ..... for 3 phase ac motors hummmmm....

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2008, 07:32:01 PM »
Hey Nightlife,
I can understand your frustration of what you are talking about in this thread.  It seems that I started a fight in the Overunity Question thread.  It's not just that we have a fundamentals problem, but even when two people have similar concepts in their minds, they don't pick the same words to express their ideas.  It seems a miscommunication of an idea is fodder for a virtual battle of intellects.  Then there are the people who are just out in space.  They try to convey and idea, or whatever is in their head, and it just comes out as nonsensical gibberish.  Like they take one electronics class then watch 100 science fiction movies, and then go try to invent something.

I would like to interject an idea at this point.  It would be wrong to disallow anyone access to a public forum.  After all this is a smelting pot of ideas and everyone should have access to and be able to interject ideas.  But I am thinking that there should be a certified layer, above general public access.  Something that established members can access when they have more that X amount of posts (full member status) and have to pass some sort of competency exams to prove that they are seriously interested in pursuing the quest for free energy for the benefit of mankind.  This would keep access to the certified layer away from the anti-productive factions which are making this site undesirable.

So what do you think?

Blessed Be...

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2008, 01:15:21 AM »
z.monkey, I honestly would hate to see anyone left out and just hope all can discuss things respectfully. There are some of us that don't have much education in this field but I think what we are all looking for is beyond anyones education level.

 I think things are fine as they are although I must say, some do push things a bit to far as for the way they talk to others.

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Re: im curious why ?.
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2008, 10:33:12 PM »
Hey Nightlife,
I can understand your frustration of what you are talking about in this thread.  It seems that I started a fight in the Overunity Question thread.  It's not just that we have a fundamentals problem, but even when two people have similar concepts in their minds, they don't pick the same words to express their ideas.  It seems a miscommunication of an idea is fodder for a virtual battle of intellects.  Then there are the people who are just out in space.  They try to convey and idea, or whatever is in their head, and it just comes out as nonsensical gibberish.  Like they take one electronics class then watch 100 science fiction movies, and then go try to invent something.

I would like to interject an idea at this point.  It would be wrong to disallow anyone access to a public forum.  After all this is a smelting pot of ideas and everyone should have access to and be able to interject ideas.  But I am thinking that there should be a certified layer, above general public access.  Something that established members can access when they have more that X amount of posts (full member status) and have to pass some sort of competency exams to prove that they are seriously interested in pursuing the quest for free energy for the benefit of mankind.  This would keep access to the certified layer away from the anti-productive factions which are making this site undesirable.

So what do you think?

Blessed Be...

I  think that when  someone  is trying to build  something  they should  be able to  start  a  new thread and be the modorator of that thread .
No  one  should  have to put up with  pages of  posts from skeptics  that  have never tried to build  anything in their  intire lives.
I  have been making  plans  and  buying  parts for quite a while now   getting ready for my  project.

I have been here long  enough to know  better than to  post  anything   without  proof .
( in this  forum it is a  major sin  to claim  overunity   if   you can't quickly prove it. ..........although   skeptics  can make any  claim  that  they  want about  something being imposable  and  no proof is  ever  expected .)

I will not have any proof  until  my project is  finished and  running.

I don't have the background  to   explain  my  ideas according to   standard   scientific   rules . 

I  have no   desire to spend  much of my time   explaining why  normal  scientific  laws  may not apply.



I would think that the  best thing a builder   could   do to   save time for everyone interested in  his  or her  idea is to ban the  skeptics  from the  thread .

I am not  suggesting that   skeptics  be  banned  from   the whole site ....... just  threads  for actually  building  things.   


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