Author Topic: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg (Read 266002 times)

altium · « **Reply #150 on:** December 26, 2009, 07:08:51 PM »

Hello friends!
I think this topic is only for the Valeri Ivanov's INKOMP (integral commutator of magnetic fluxes), so lets talk only for the INKOMP device.

He lives in Elin Pelin city, Bulgaria. I met him 2 years ago and I saw real efficiency of COP=240%. The official site is www.inkomp.delta.com. The device is commercial.

Autor was posted 5 videos in youtube, I find only 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IP-buFHKKU - first video, there he shows the input power, the output power and finally he calculates the efficiency (COP.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npFVaeSbk1Q - second video from autor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFroLlHDHGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7x_swEeoqA

Because mr. Ivanov does not want to work with us we can freely discuss his device and try to replicate it. Now I posted possible expanation of device. I am attaching wider image so you can see the details.

Regards,
altium

Nali2001 · « **Reply #151 on:** December 26, 2009, 09:50:18 PM »

Hi Altium,
Thanks for the info.
Yes it is very likely that the Inkomp is controlled via a variable Scr. Although in the new video's it does look more like a very short duty push-pull signal from an H bridge or something.
Please let us know if there is more info or video's in the future.
Too bad there is not a good picture of his latest device...

altium · « **Reply #152 on:** December 27, 2009, 03:04:01 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFroLlHDHGU

Power calculating of this last video:
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Third channel of oscilloscope is not used. I think that in left black box there is batteries, but i`m not sure and mr. Ivanow say only "imitator" fot it. Maybe this is imitator of pseudo sinus signal with mosfets and use hight voltages.

Input:
channel 1=voltage measure=500mV/div divided x200 = 100V/div
V pulse =220V for 2.5ms
channel 2 =current measure= 100mV/div
resistor =0.009 ohm
Frequency=50Hz, T(period)=20ms
I pulse=240mV*0.8/0.009 ohm=0.192/0.009=21.333A for 2.5ms
DTC=2.5ms/20ms=0.125
Idc input=Ipulse*DTC=21.333*0.125=2.666A, U=220V, Pinput=220*2.666=586W
(for example, P=590W in wattmeter, 7A* in digital ampermeter)
*digital ampermeter is correct only for sinusoidal signals, but here is incorrect!
*******
Output:
232VDC
5A
Poutput=1160W
*********
COP=Pout/Pin=1160/586=1.9795

sumermagor · « **Reply #153 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:14:09 AM »

Hello im new to this forum, I've found inventor Boday Arpad has a similar Invention, he has was in a document film called The Banned inventions In Hungary, There is no translation to english, but i can speak the language, And it is for real, The guy puts in the machine about 9 volts 30 mili amps, and he gets approximately 80 watts out,

Here is the patent:
http://www.ipexl.com/patents/en/CA/Boday_Arpad/Boday_Arpad/Boday_Arpad/CAzzUCzz2172240.html?cr=0&l=en&q=boday+arpad&x=29&y=24&sort=2

I have allready started to replicate, and yet with little succes,

Im using ALNICO 5 Magnets

Im experiencing my replication's vibration increases in ONE frequency, It is interresting, my replication is only about 8cm long and 7cm high,

im going to post pictures and may be some video if i can do something interresting
Please investigate this, as i think we can FINNALY suceed in something with this,

I want earth to be a heavenly place again and clean it from negative energies,
I want my Human brothers and sisters to live in a freedom which is forgot by current in box reality.

Love and Light to All!

Nali2001 · « **Reply #154 on:** December 28, 2009, 11:39:30 PM »

Hi Sumermagor,
Thanks and please keep us updated on your progress.

Nali2001 · « **Reply #155 on:** December 28, 2009, 11:42:12 PM »

Altium,
Do you understand what he is saying on the video?
I don't speak the language.

Is he saying anything interesting regarding switching means, material, or other special thing that are important for us to know?

Thanks

Kator01 · « **Reply #156 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:28:55 AM »

Hello all,

there is a big problem with this digital energy-meters which I encountered while I was feeding the primary of a toroid-transformer from the grid via a diode as it is done here in this MEG-Setup.
Nali gave me a lesson on saturable reactors ( remember Nali ? )

Anyway the monitor showed total wrong values of input-power. The only way one can exactly measure actual wattage is with a oszilloscope-measurement on a shunt-resistor in the primary in order to get information about the phaseshift between current and voltage.
These Energy-Monitor-Devices in conjuction with this technique ( feed-in via diode ) are useless. I only remember that the error was in the range of 50 % .

Hope that this will help anyone here who tries to replicate this.

Regards

Kator01

altium · « **Reply #157 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:09:33 PM »

@Nali2001,
of course I understand all in video, because I live in too country. But he not say nothing interesting, only about measurements...
Just look at schematic and think about method of saturation of magnetic cores. The schematic is very clear and understandable.

@sumermagor,
very good! Check your mailbox...

Nali2001 · « **Reply #158 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:44:56 PM »

Hi Altium,
Ah ok, I always wanted to know what he is saying in the video's hoping for some info, but I can imagine he is keeping some secrets.

Yes what you have posted is very logical. I'm don't know how much you know about saturable reactors but most of them also have a little coil called a "bias coil/winding" and it is used to tune the core up to the right working range or saturation level, so that the main input coil only has to give very little power to control the total switching level. In other words that bias winding is there to fine tune the behavior of the device.

In the permeability curve of a core material you see a permeability rise before it gets low. And it is the bias winding which sets the operational rage of the device to that level just before the curve starts to drop. So that the main coil does only have to supply very small input signals.

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/img/14180_154_2.jpg

It could very well be that the inkomp uses such a bias winding as well, or it could benefit from one.
See the picture of what I mean:

sn7401 · « **Reply #159 on:** December 29, 2009, 10:50:00 PM »

Quote from: winsonali on December 13, 2009, 11:02:33 PM

nali2001

i will post various versions and patents of PM used in transformers and they are failed to use the proper flux from PM
if we just try to understand where they are making misconception we can reach to conclusions.
all this for sharing knowledge and views.

for instance why this system didn't worked....image posted.

regarding commercialization of my device, yes off course i am a scientist R & D is my bread and butter and i do commercialization but at the same time i will provide information and help to people interested in replication of my work and will send them programmed IC and other required parts so they can assemble by themselves
the systems i am developing they are not home experimenting projects i have a company working and producing my other devices and selling them in local markets i don't put any information regarding sales or marketing over here in respect of forum's integrity. and also my work is to design and create products sales is not my area.

hello, I think this system doesnt work becouse of separate magnets are used...
maybe if we put one big flat PM instead of four small it will work?

altium · « **Reply #160 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:40:50 AM »

Other video of Inkomp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-avdbf9B1w

sinergicus · « **Reply #161 on:** January 28, 2010, 06:59:01 PM »

I hope JLN labs will find this and try to replicate in some day....

Tito L. Oracion · « **Reply #162 on:** January 29, 2010, 11:21:52 AM »

nice vid

Nali2001 · « **Reply #163 on:** May 13, 2010, 11:27:37 PM »

Just to check, did anyone make any advancements on the Inkomp principle/tech lately?
Any new video's or other info?

Thanks!
Steven

alstream · « **Reply #164 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:56:51 AM »

At that time already received a patent, and preparing a presentation technology for Investors.

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