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Offline winsonali

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #135 on: December 13, 2009, 07:45:26 AM »
this is 50 hz modulated signal with 20 Khz frequency this will give you a fly wheel effect in electronics.
 

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #135 on: December 13, 2009, 07:45:26 AM »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #136 on: December 13, 2009, 08:28:07 AM »
this is 50 hz modulated signal with 20 Khz frequency this will give you a fly wheel effect in electronics.

http://jlnlabs.free.fr/projects/ipstst/index.htm


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #137 on: December 13, 2009, 01:01:20 PM »
@ossie,

Thanks for the link. Have you done any further work since the presentation of your work at JLN?

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #137 on: December 13, 2009, 01:01:20 PM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #138 on: December 13, 2009, 05:22:30 PM »
Hi Winsonali,
Yes dual polarity dc switching is what is normally used in "Dc transformation" situations.
Its solves many of the problems experienced with single polarity dc switching.
I like your high freq signal into a 50hz fashion. This is sometimes done in over current sensing/protection situations.

How do you do your dual polarity switching?
With a half bridge?
And if so how do you make a dual polarity power source out of normal dc?
Like for example +220v / 0v / -220v
It is not ideal but I do it like this:
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/HalfH.jpg
Or do you use a full bridge?

I also have a heavy duty dual polarity dc switching solution.
It has variable freq and pwm.
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/Driver001.jpg

Anyway I am interested in your device.
Do you intend to share the workings or do you intend to go commercial with it?
Can't wait to see your video!

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #139 on: December 13, 2009, 09:11:03 PM »
nali2001:

here is a simple program i have developed to calculate the number of turns in any solenoid , transformer, or coil
i hope this will help many people.
this program is an exe file just send me email if you need it i will send you this pogram

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #139 on: December 13, 2009, 09:11:03 PM »
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Offline winsonali

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #140 on: December 13, 2009, 11:02:33 PM »
nali2001

i will post various versions and patents of PM used in transformers and they are failed to use the proper flux from PM
if we just try to understand where they are making misconception we can reach to conclusions.
all this for sharing knowledge and views.

for instance why this system didn't worked....image posted.

regarding commercialization of my device, yes off course i am a scientist R & D is my bread and butter and i do commercialization but at the same time i will provide information and help to people interested in replication of my work and will send them programmed IC and other required parts so they can assemble by themselves
the systems i am developing they are not home experimenting projects i have a company working and producing my other devices and selling them in local markets i don't put any information regarding sales or marketing over here in respect of forum's integrity. and also my work is to design and create products sales is not my area. 
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 11:28:20 PM by winsonali »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #141 on: December 13, 2009, 11:54:20 PM »
@ossie,

Thanks for the link. Have you done any further work since the presentation of your work at JLN?

Hi MasterPlaster,

Yes I have done a great deal of work over the years and have been contacted by people wanting to develop it into a commercial system or product. But the development of the IPS is fairly obvious to anyone who understands what it does and how it works. Anyone who understands this can develop it further in many different ways and still get amazing results. It's principle of operation is identical to what Ali presented above except that by using two source batteries, during the HF pulse phase, the back emfs from one side of the circuit is used to charge battery on the opposite side of the circuit.

Regards,

Ossie



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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #141 on: December 13, 2009, 11:54:20 PM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #142 on: December 14, 2009, 03:23:47 AM »
    To Winsonali:
     I have tried to replicate the device that is in your last image, and have had no success with it.  Can you tell me why you think this device will not function as shown. 
  How can it have a patent and not work as stated in the patent?  What can be done to make it produce electricity? Any ideas are welcome.
              NickZ
     

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #143 on: December 14, 2009, 03:50:58 AM »
NIckZ

obvious and very simple

1) the current is moving in single direction
2) opposing force for magnetic field is equal to output so no net gain but loses
3) flux has no alternating path.

these are the reason why this device will not work

what are your observation and how much work you done on this?

patents are easy to get even you can get the patent for an idea this is a money game.
secondly patent cover working philosophy not complete details.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #143 on: December 14, 2009, 03:50:58 AM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #144 on: December 14, 2009, 04:57:02 AM »
   Winsonali:
   Thank you for your reply. I have been up many a night working on this unit, and have found it to be very sensitive magnetically to any changes and modifications.
   Although there is an additional switching circuit given as an option in the patent, I have not used it, but have tried to connect a 12v input to outer control coil direct.
   I'm hoping to find a device that will not need a signal generator, battery, or power supply etz... but will work with resonance, instead of being dependent on other external inputs to make it work.  I know I'm not the only one, but it has been impossible to find even one working device of this type. If it does not exist, we need to invent it, as we may not have the electric power grid to depend on much longer.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #145 on: December 14, 2009, 08:32:49 AM »
nali2001 and nickZ

please read this post gotoluc have developed some lens free generator setup
the video link is here on this thread.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7987.new#new

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #145 on: December 14, 2009, 08:32:49 AM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #146 on: December 21, 2009, 06:44:18 PM »
There has been comments on this thread stating that PPMT cannot work as a generator, which does not agree with the statements made in Flynn’s patents WO 2008/119055 and WO 2008/109834 and his two web sites. So I attempted an easy build generator replication based on PPMT technology.


PPMT1-Patent picture:  This is Figure 20 from the WO 2008/119055 patent. It is showing the flux flow of the unit when the unit has three sets of the rotor segments aligned. No power is being applied. If the rotor is turned at this point the reluctance will increase and flux will start falling in the associated cores. In the other sections the reluctance will decrease and flux will start rising in the associated cores.

PPMT1-Shaded pole motor: Fractional HP motor from bathroom vent unit. High rpm, low torque design for a 4.5 inch diameter fan. This motor increases draw wattage with an increase in load. The coil is 20 ohms. The coil section can be pulled loose from the rotor section.   

PPMT1-drawing: Shows a rough drawing of the generator concept which duplicates one section of Figure 20 patent using parts from 2 shaded pole motor. The rotor and center pieces were cut to vary the reluctance. The iron pieces on back of the magnets are used as a flux pathway, to stop any interference with the generator.

PPMT1-generator close up: This shows the assembled generator. Magnets of ½” by ¼” by 1/16” were stacked to fine tune the performance.

PPMT1-side view: This shows another shaded pole ac motor driving the generator. It does not have enough torque to self start. A manual push is required after switching on.

PPMT1-no load on coils: Shows 35 watts draw on the drive motor when both coils are open.

PPMT1-100 ohm load each coil: This shows the wave form coming from each coil with 100 ohm loads. Proves that the flux is rising and falling in each coil and they are not retaining magnetism. Still shows a 35 watt draw on the drive motor and no noticeable speed change, proving little or no lenz effect. This setup has been run up to 10 minutes with only minimum variance in Vrms, amperage or watts draw. 

PPMT1-100 ohm load each coil with ch1 display: The display, middle column, second row shows a Vrms of  3.41V for one coil and the back meter shows the ac amperage of 33.68MA for one coil. Proves it works as a generator.

Of course, the output is not very impressive, but I’m sure that it could be improved with a better rotor. The original rotor is an ac induction rotor, which has aluminum shorting bars thru the rotor. Looking at the rotor from the side that was cut, it seems to be half aluminum. A silicon steel lamination rotor would perform much better. Also, the fit between the coil core and rotor holder is a little gapped due to having to reverse its normal position. I don’t have the equipment to make a rotor with the required tolerances.

 As a comparison to the PPMT output, I ran another test on a dc motor from a 18V drill which has stronger magnets and the rotor length is 1 ½” as opposed to the 5/8” shaded pole rotor. The rotor shaft could not be turned by the shaded pole motor, so another drill was used to turn it at 1300RPM. It produced 7.5V and 7.40MA with a 100 ohm load.   


Regards, Larry   



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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #147 on: December 21, 2009, 07:48:03 PM »
Nice build,
The Flynn parallel path motor can very well work as a generator, in fact that is one thing they use it for.
Claiming very good performance as a generator.

The only builders I have seen working on very good replication are some Italian dudes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy3oTS8v1lw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nlspw1HY-w

Best build:
Showing mechanical OU on a bicycle dynanometer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVXAm_ONIk&feature=related

Note the electric drill in the video is to give a accuracy benchmark of the dynanometer, so you have some sort of a reference point.

Building a Flynn motor is not that impossible or full of hidden tech. Only mayor disadvantaged you need many of the same shape laminations and you hardly can make the lamination your own due to the difficult shape. You need to have them stamped.
Cheap prototyping solution: http://www.protolam.com/page2.html

« Last Edit: December 21, 2009, 10:03:41 PM by Nali2001 »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #148 on: December 22, 2009, 01:10:32 PM »
larry C
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There has been comments on this thread stating that PPMT cannot work as a generator, which does not agree with the statements made in Flynn’s patents WO 2008/119055 and WO 2008/109834 and his two web sites. So I attempted an easy build generator replication based on PPMT technology.

the setup you have shown is a mechanical setup
when i said that PPMTwill not be able to produce electricity it is in case of motionless generation

although very good attempt

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #149 on: December 26, 2009, 07:07:42 PM »
Hello friends!
I think this topic is only for the Valeri Ivanov's INKOMP (integral commutator of magnetic fluxes), so lets talk only for the INKOMP device.

He lives in Elin Pelin, Bulgaria. I met him 2 years ago and I saw real efficiency of COP=240%. The official site is www.inkomp.delta.com. The device is commercial

Autor was posted 5 videos in youtube, I find only 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IP-buFHKKU  - first video, there he shows the input power, the output power and finally he calculates the efficiency (COP.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npFVaeSbk1Q - second video from autor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFroLlHDHGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7x_swEeoqA

Because valeri Ivanov does not want to work with us we can freely discuss his device and try to replicate it.

Enjoy.

 

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