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Offline Koen1

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #90 on: November 17, 2008, 08:11:57 PM »
Well not really on this specific setup, no. Not from my end anyway.

I have been getting signals from some others I'm in contact with
that some of them have managed to get OU from a toroidal transformer
with pulsed input on the primary and a bemf capture "rectifier" a la
Bedini/Bearden on the secondary, but all of them are just short
term test runs and none have attempted to close that loop yet.
Some of them claim positive regenerative feedback between the ouput
capacitor and the input capacitor is possible, as long as it happens
during a phase in which the input cap is physically disconnected
from the primary coil (through transistor switching or even using
a simple Reed switch).
Sounds like a Bedini-style "radiant energy" pulser/collector "coil"
setup without the battery charging operation to me... ;)

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #90 on: November 17, 2008, 08:11:57 PM »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #91 on: November 18, 2008, 05:22:38 AM »

I agree!
If the output was the toroidal coil then the switching coil (the straight coil) would need only a short pulse just as the output was collapsing and the waveform should be like that shown in post 47.

The output would be driven in a circular path around the toroid and provide an output that would be enhanced by the collapsing switching coil. At the output peaks the toroid would reverse the circular field path direction and drive the output in the opposite direction which would be in the same direction it was already collapsing.

Like AC out from the constant drive of the PM DC field in with short pulses to help the direction change.








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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #92 on: April 24, 2009, 07:48:34 PM »
Hi, all inventors...

There are pictures showing some MEG output effects with spark gap. The supply power is about 30W, but output one is quite higher to make iron pieces red and to melt a thick resistive wire down.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #92 on: April 24, 2009, 07:48:34 PM »
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Offline Nali2001

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #93 on: April 25, 2009, 01:30:47 AM »
Hi Getca.
I saw these images on the Bulgarian forum some time ago. Any improvements yet? And what setup are you using these days. Have you measured the output or used other outputs like bulbs and how did they do. Any other interesting improvements done by other Bulgarian users?

I saw that Inkomp-delta has changes their site and seem to be working together with Akoil now. Plus it seems they now removed any real info from the site except for the old video and a photo slide show. Some time ago when their old site was still up I asked Valeri if the systems shown in their old photo section ever produced o.u and he said no. They never went over 100% efficiency and he is using some other layout these days which seems to be working great, but these devices are always inside a box so we have no idea what he is really using these days.

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Steven

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2009, 11:46:16 AM »
Frequency - about 30kHz
Resonant control circuit
Ferrite cores
Supply voltage - 24v
Supply current - 1-1.5a
Output voltage picks - about 800v
Output current picks - 60-800a
Currunt flow time - 300-500nS

The current picks depends on the electrodes material, spark gap, etc...

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2009, 11:46:16 AM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #95 on: May 14, 2009, 05:58:05 PM »
 :o
Are those numbers correct!?
That's an insanely high amperage value!
I can see that you melted iron but damn...

So this is primarily the basic MEG, you haven't added anything more to circuit or?

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #96 on: July 23, 2009, 10:18:33 PM »
The voltage isn't measured during load and it probably drops like a rock at this moment
while increasing the amperage. If there is 25W output from the 30W input at 0.5V output
during load then this translates into 50 amps flowing through the wires.
That's enough to melt iron in the 'current arc' setup displayed due to a small contact area.
Sorry, no overunity here, as usual.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #96 on: July 23, 2009, 10:18:33 PM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #97 on: July 28, 2009, 10:01:00 PM »
Hi, Ergo...

Did You read my previous post carefully?.. I think, not, because there was a SPARK GAP and it was a MEG load. There was not any electrical contact between the electrodes. The output characteristic of this device is falling and a short circuit decreases strongly the output power. So, the gap works like e zener diode - the voltage is about constant, but changes only the current.
Well, I pointed the values above and You can be sure all is correct. The approximated calculation is about efficiency 2 or more.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #98 on: August 03, 2009, 01:11:25 PM »
Hi Getca,

may I present here a link which was sent to me yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/user/theENERGYDREAM#play/uploads/1/ZUvHhBzffWk

Due to some research with google I discovered this in the google-cache : a video by Dr. Schwarz embedded on the website "cauta.siteweb.ro" which is Romania - I guess. however the video is removed here. Search on this website for "Dr. Schwartz Free Energy Electromagnetic Generator"

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:20eCzHJb-xUJ:cauta.siteweb.ro/Y_hitech.html+%22Noahsark+Foundation%22&cd=10&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

Do you know these two persons of Noahsark Foundation ?

The Nr. 11 -Video looks like a MEG-Device but frankly I regards this as a scam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOhfs1Fihd0&feature=channel

I simply wanted to ask you if you know these two persons, because it is my geuss that this is originated from a eastern country .

Regards

Kator01

PS : there is no other information I coud find about this


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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #98 on: August 03, 2009, 01:11:25 PM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #99 on: August 04, 2009, 12:16:09 AM »
Yes, I did, and you are still wrong.

Just before the Spark "ignites" there is a high voltage present but this is
short circuited down to almost zero volt when the Spark crosses the bridge.
This is regular welding technique used by any everyday welding station.
I can easily determine that you lack the skill of how to truly measure the efficiency
of your device. It is actually insanely hard to get correct measurements in a pulsed
setup where the current and voltage is load dependent. Just like your contrapment.
I do encourage you to bring in someone skilled enough to help you take proper
measurements using the right equipment. Then you will see the whole picture yourself.


Hi, Ergo...

Did You read my previous post carefully?.. I think, not, because there was a SPARK GAP and it was a MEG load. There was not any electrical contact between the electrodes. The output characteristic of this device is falling and a short circuit decreases strongly the output power. So, the gap works like e zener diode - the voltage is about constant, but changes only the current.
Well, I pointed the values above and You can be sure all is correct. The approximated calculation is about efficiency 2 or more.

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2009, 01:56:39 PM »
Hi, all inventors...

Quote
I simply wanted to ask you if you know these two persons, because it is my geuss that this is originated from a eastern country .

Regards

Kator01
Kator01, unfortunately I don't know these persons.

Ergo, it seems, You are quite...self-confident to claim that...
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Just before the Spark "ignites" there is a high voltage present but this is
short circuited down to almost zero volt when the Spark crosses the bridge. This is regular welding technique used by any everyday welding station.

No comment, like the people say. Just get an oscilloscope, carefully see the Voltage/Current pictures on/via any kind of spark gap and then I will be  ready to dicuss.

Well, sorry, but nothing personally to You...O, You are an educated, but sceptic person, I see...I am too... ;D

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2009, 01:56:39 PM »
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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #101 on: August 08, 2009, 12:50:07 PM »

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #102 on: December 04, 2009, 07:47:28 PM »
these MEG circuits will not work as they are not swapping the direction of magnetic field they are just putting impact on magnitude this will saturate the core very quickly and will reduce the effect very strongly  ultimately the power generated will be equal to power output or if there is any extra power again it will not last for long .
until and unless the direction of the magnetic field is completely changing  we will not be able to produce revers curve of BH characteristics which enables the core material to remain neutral.

   

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #103 on: December 04, 2009, 07:57:41 PM »
Charles Flynn parallel path technique will be very good to produce PM magnetic mechanical force switching on and off but this technique cannot be used for the purpose of electricity generation.

once again the same reason the frequency required to generate the electric power is very at least 50 hz and the core material saturates in one direction this is the reason why we need to change the direction of flux to neutralize this effect
this is not possible in this arrangement as both the magnets are in same direction.
but one thing is for sure that if we will develop a motor with this technique that will perform very good
coz that deals with magneto mechanical force not magneto electrical force.   

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Re: A truly overunity Transformer / Meg
« Reply #104 on: December 04, 2009, 08:59:56 PM »
these MEG circuits will not work as they are not swapping the direction of magnetic field they are just putting impact on magnitude this will saturate the core very quickly and will reduce the effect very strongly  ultimately the power generated will be equal to power output or if there is any extra power again it will not last for long .
until and unless the direction of the magnetic field is completely changing  we will not be able to produce revers curve of BH characteristics which enables the core material to remain neutral.
 

Hi Ali,

If I understand correctly the Bulgarian MEG operation is based on pure saturation, the input energy saturates a closed magnetic core and this closed core is embedded into another closed magnetic circuit that has a permanent magnet as an independent source of magnetomotive force. And by bringing the input core into and then out of saturation, the flux strength changes accordingly between a minimum (input energy saturates its own core) and a maximum (input energy is off).   It is true the flux always changes between the same limits and in the setups shown the flux does not change poles  direction in the main flux path driven by the permanent magnet.
So my question is: does this lack of change in the flux direction rules out a COP>1 with this setup? 

See this link here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4300.msg134670#msg134670

Maybe by changing this setup to make the flux (coming from the permanent magnet) change its pole directions you miss, even better COPs could be reached.

Regards, Gyula

 

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