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Author Topic: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !  (Read 207713 times)

Offline EMdevices

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2008, 09:30:10 PM »
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All this definitely calls into credibility any info provided to Mannix, from an objective point of view, though I am sure Mannix is genuine in his efforts to move this forward. ...

I would say the info from Lindsay Mannix appears more valuable now and also more trust worthy.  Jack also seems honest and I'm getting a better picture of the dynamics that went on.   People wanted to know how it worked, including close friends of Steven, (how much closer can you get than his boyfriend)  So I can understand why he was guarding his invention.

Let's just see what the video has to offer, and exactly what video it is.

EM


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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2008, 09:36:53 PM »
,,, ;D

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2008, 09:36:58 PM »
WTF has any body's sexual conditions got to do with any thing other than ??

perhaps half of hollywood should be shut down?
or is this a  site???
I like slim girls in black leather....personally

I will listen to the spoof show and post something later....fun fun fun

Its a sad day for any body who thinks that this rubbish will help in any way

the opposite may well be the case. so lets have fun with it

Lindsay

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2008, 09:36:58 PM »
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2008, 10:01:29 PM »
I am a long time reader of this board (several years), but have little knowledge about EE. I am a computer scientist. Therefore I've only ever come here to read up on new developments.

Through the years no subject has fascinated me more than the tale of Steven Mark and the TPU. This was in the beginning mainly because of what I believe to be the most convincing video evidence of free energy ever produced. As someone has stated previously this could be faked, but it would take a pretty big efford and coordination to pull off, as opposed to most other free energy video evidence that could have been faked a thousand ways.

I was here when SM first made contact through a boardmember and was immediately suspicious about his deeply veiled approach to communication. At the time I believed it was because of some mysterious corporation (UEC) was breathing down his neck and he was affraid to disclose to much. Now after the interview with Jack Durban I see that this type of communication also fits very well with someone trying to cover up their true level of knowledge about an issue, something which I have encountered a few times in my professional life.

The Interview with JD: Over all I found JD to be fairly convincing in his style of comunication, he was calm and collected in his speach. As mentioned previosly there were a few inconsistensies that needs to be cleared up. F.ex. the fact that he was going back and fourth between which TPU size he had actually had hands on experience with.

Oddities:
- One thing though that I cant get out of my head: Jack Durban to me sounds EXCACTLY like the voice of Steven Mark in the youtube videos. I always thought that SM had a very distinct tone to his words but I may be wrong as I am not from the US. It should be pretty easy to discard this if SM's face shows in one of the videos as JD says. But maybe JD and SM are one and the same?
- How did JD get his hands on original video footage? He said that he had no involvement with the videoshootings.
- Someone signs up to the board as "spherics" only a few days before an interview where we hear about this company for the first time. very suspicious.

LTO

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2008, 10:20:51 PM »
Nothing is new:

We've always known about Steven D Mark  and his audiospacial effects patent 5487113, which are assigned to:  Spheric Audio Laboratories Inc.  It also mentions his coinventor  David Doleshal

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2008, 10:20:51 PM »
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2008, 10:29:00 PM »
Nothing is new:

We've always known about Steven D Mark  and his audiospacial effects patent 5487113, which are assigned to:  Spheric Audio Laboratories Inc.  It also mentions his coinventor  David Doleshal

EM

Which makes it so much more hard to believe that SM was not capable of understanding basic electronics or whatever that term used to describe his technical ability in Jack's interview IMO pretty pretty hard to swallow. Maybe Jack's opinion of himself went way beyond what Steven was willing to share about the TPU. Sour grapes if you asked me.

Maybe we should track down Mr. Doleshal whom I'm sure knows SM far better than a few meetings here and there?

cheers
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2008, 10:39:16 PM »
www.vorel.com is registered to Jack Durban so, he is not SM.
How certain is Lindsay that the person in contact with him is actually SM?
If you think about it, if SM really wanted to help with the revival of TPU, he could have
done it in many ways. Is it possible the guy in contact with Mannix is just  a confused soul?

The information from Jack was significant.
At the same time I can not get it out of my head, if there is no battery, there is no starting current
so why does it need a reed contact? The plot has thickened.

AM

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2008, 10:42:38 PM »
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2008, 10:43:15 PM »
Stefan already contacted Mr. Doleshal and posted his emails somewhere in these threads a while ago.

EM

P.S.   Thanks Dansway!
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2008, 10:48:49 PM »
Dan,

I have to agree.  He told us nothing.  Whenever he was asked a question his main replies was "well, I could check in the video".

If here was there and he had a photographic memory as he said, why no useful information of any kind other than Stevens sexual orientation?

However if he does have a video, I feel that will be the only thing that will prove he knew SM.



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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2008, 10:53:23 PM »
Hmm,
Jack probably did not see all the video of SM that are out there,
cause he could not remember one  video
for instance that was asked by another caller...

So also he said, that he only witnessed the big TPU ,
but mixed up the voltage and current ouputs.
So he was probably never there, when SM showed the Voltage
readings or did not remember it...

Well, for better preparing for this interview he should
have really watched his high quality tape again...but as he said,
he had not much time, cause he is currently in another product development
for his company in an unrelated area with not much free time.

So it is now also highly questionable, if Mr. Durban at all
did see a Reed switch in the big unit,or if it is only his idea
from some other videos he did see on youtube ??


Many thanks EM for finding again the
3D audio patent.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=P2MjAAAAEBAJ&dq=5487113

I will email Mr. Doleshal again,
who was really the inventor of this patent.
As he is working now more in a medical area when I remember correctly
he also told me, that he was not so technically involved with it all,
when I remember correctly.
Have to recheck my former email exchange with him again.

So I guess Steven Mark has really invented the 3D audio system
and he really knows a lot more about LC circuits than Mr. Durban
probably believes.

Why they faked the 3D audio part with hidden speakers is
not known to me and this I also did not understand from the interview
and Sterling also did not reask about this part more in deepth...


Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2008, 10:53:23 PM »
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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2008, 10:54:18 PM »
to Dan and CTG

If Jack is credible, having someone who can verify that the tpu works and has seen it running is very valuable, even if he knows little of the inner workings of the device.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2008, 10:58:51 PM »
Hi,

I agree.  The trouble is how can he prove this to us?  Anyone could read everything thats out there and then come out saying he knew SM.

Like Mannix, no disrespect intended, but we have no proof whatsoever that any information from Mannix really came from SM.  Mannix however was able to back this up with videos and separate high quality images that no one else has provided.

If Jack can provide this video then great.  If he does not, then we can only take the information given with a pinch of salt as he has not provided any information that was not already out there, in fact he didn't even seem to know all of that.


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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2008, 11:02:21 PM »
I just found out that there is still another patent by...
tadada:
Steven D. Mark
alone:


http://www.google.com/patents?id=OHspAAAAEBAJ&dq=D362441

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2008, 11:07:22 PM »
Here are even some more patents:

http://www.google.com/patents?q=Spheric+Audio+Laboratories&btnG=Search+Patents

Has all to do with Loudspeakers
from his company:
Spheric Audio Laboratories

So I guess Mr. Durban is pretty wrong, when he claims
that SM has no knowledge about LC circuits...

 

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