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Grumpy

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #555 on: August 31, 2009, 11:57:00 PM »
Bout time you stopped being Grumpy and be enlightened.

A refresher course on Tesla, Kapanadze and Don Smith should do the trick.

The "bullshit" comment was not aimed at you.  It was just a general statement.

I would not call what you have "enlightenment".

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #556 on: September 01, 2009, 12:19:44 AM »
bolt
Can you repeat in simpler words ?

So we need :
1. Output circuit with load in resonance , but completely separated from powering circuit (in TPU : collectors forming tank circuits and intermodulation gives us no connection between powering circuit and working circuit)

All these systems require a source excited in to RF and high voltage. If i have an oscillator that runs at say 1 meg and 100 volts my drive power to achieve this maybe only be milliwatts. If i couple magnetically the source is NOT effected. Its now a one way valve.

2. A way to move any electrons into load (in TPU : "squeeze hose")

Electrons dont like to be displaced. It only takes volts not AMPS to move them. If the conditions for excitation and resonance remains intact then in effect my load will continue to absorb a constant flow of ambient electrons as they try to plug the hole created in the ether. In so doing will create AMPS. Now the source started off as Electron Volts in  RF state becomes VARS as Volt Amp Reactive.  Now this becomes JOULES as real energy as the ether cold electricity or RE provides the power not the source.

Practical limitation is wire melts! See kapanadze video where is uses ELF ground differential amplification and pulls free electrons from the earth.

Is that correct ?

Does Kapanadze uses magnetic resonance ? Is there any explanation what is it ? IS IT intermodulation ???

Yes the key is magnetic resonance its not intermodulation.

Look at Rotoverter. Its the most simple way of witness this effect using off the shelf 3  phase motor.

In RV mode the source is only around 5  or 10 watts to run a massive 7 HP motor. The rotating magnetic field is in effect RF albeit ELF. Its enough to agitate local electrons that are NOT the source drive power.  This pulls in free electrons and adds energy to the rotating magnetic field of the motor.  The motor actually starts to gain FROST!  Its not perfect if we load the motor too much it detunes from magnetic resonance and losses power. In other words its like a narrow band RF receiver.

This is the dead opposite to normal where if WE supply the electrons it gets HOT.


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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #557 on: September 01, 2009, 12:50:01 AM »
i got a pic for you bolt wanna build it ?

it is the winding ... from a 3 phase 540v 7hp induction motor ... got 3 phase relays too ...

so lets make her singgg..

ill add pics soon ...

im gonna move it inside to work on it


ist!

darn thing weighs 150 plus lbs ..  the rotor will be a pulse motor ..

and here is the ring core from a 600v 30 hp 3 phase  motor

i will be rewinding it after i cut it from the caseing ...
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 01:49:32 AM by innovation_station »

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #558 on: September 01, 2009, 01:10:01 AM »
Great post Bolt, you have me Going!

Before I had any contact with Steven , that is where my head was regarding the ftpu.

If you want to ignore everything that came through me... after all the possibility exists that the ftpu video, simply  revealed too much.

The centre is the to and fro, the outer track is the foward motion but wired so that to and fro becomes foward motion top and bottom but reverse directions. hence the quadrants.

round sections of transformer lamination's.

Think of an engine . The piston goes up and down but the crankshaft turns round and round .

look at a full or half wave rectifier but in reverse , the diodes ensure that we have rotation.
Perhaps diodes are not even required if everything is in balance.

Can this rotary motion interact with the field in witch we are immersed?

Is it possible to create a magnetic balance with copper and iron in a circle that will self oscillate if the balance is biased (magnet)?

Of course this would seem to have  nothing to do with 3 frequencies. but the ftpu surely has a single thingy in the middle and even numbers everywhere else.

So, if you want to ingore the info that came thru me, follow this path of experiments

The JT guys have a bit of a head start here but I doubt any driving frequency would be required...perhaps just to start with and very little .


If such an arrangement can be made to spin up, first base will be reached


Mine is not spinning yet


But if your approaching permanent magnet causes small oscillation, rather than dc  you will see the possibilities with this


Back to you Bolt

Lindsay


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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #559 on: September 01, 2009, 01:38:48 AM »
The FTPU doesn't drop down in voltage that much when the magnet is removed, but it drops in voltage dramatically when it is turned upside down.   Everything else makes sense to me except this behavior.   If it wasn't for this behavior the FTPU is nothing more then a double loop antenna matched to resonate at whatever frequency he desires, say 5 kHz,  the toroid in the center is just to add more inductance, then there is a capacitor I see, etc...   But the upside down behavior is quite the key....
I can't explain that in terms of antenna theory and directivity, something to ponder for sure.
EM

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #560 on: September 01, 2009, 02:10:40 AM »
Thats because the interactive field is now  reversed

Can I describe it as a magnetic wing that interacts with the 3d mag field?

Both horizontal and vertical

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #561 on: September 01, 2009, 03:24:18 AM »
The FTPU doesn't drop down in voltage that much when the magnet is removed, but it drops in voltage dramatically when it is turned upside down.   Everything else makes sense to me except this behavior.   If it wasn't for this behavior the FTPU is nothing more then a double loop antenna matched to resonate at whatever frequency he desires, say 5 kHz,  the toroid in the center is just to add more inductance, then there is a capacitor I see, etc...   But the upside down behavior is quite the key....
I can't explain that in terms of antenna theory and directivity, something to ponder for sure.
EM


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Mark one pole of a strong NEO disk then drop it in a bucket of sand. Note which end is up. Repeat.
Compare the heads/tails totals. Then think about a magnetic field with relative movement to the Earth's magnetic field.

Please let me know what you think. Until then I'll wait until the s/n ratio drops.

Don't forget! RE and RF are the same thing!

Excuse me for a while. My boots are getting heavy.


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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #562 on: September 01, 2009, 03:47:04 AM »
Tesla would have us believe that the Earth is a huge spherical capacitor plate charged negative just like the skin of a copper wire is negatively charged as opposed to the positively charge core.  So we are just part of a capacitor plate which is relative to the rest of space.  If the Earth charges or discharges the dielectric potential in the near field of the capacitor plate is altered with the resultant displacement current and accomapanying magnetic field flux changed.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #563 on: September 01, 2009, 04:25:34 AM »
its a while since a looked at the TPU but i always maintained that coil banging with pulses, and logic control is wrong!

In the past few months/years many many more RE/OU devices are shown on the net and they all have common themes. SM said the answer lay with Tesla and he is right. Its only a case of resonance and self oscillation. Again SM emphasized there is no mass control circuits and in fact no more then self running oscillators.

What i do know based on the work of Tesla and Don Smith is that RE = RF in a node of time space and magnetic coupling does not suffer entropy loss and this is the KEY!

In order to make RE you must first excite the local ambient space. Anything over 100Khz enters the RF arena and split EM can occur. 

Take HV coil transformer as used in strobe supply it will give 5Kv if we drive with  5Khz clock using a 12 volt source battery.  If i couple this through a balun driver i can match this into a collector loop of 5 turns.

if i take this  collector loop i get this to self oscillate at say 1 meg with a 2,200pf cap and the result will be around 1 meg that contains 5Khz modulation.

If this coil is loaded in anyway i will kill the source! if i rectify this i end up with DC 5000 volts with 5Khz hash as modulation, so far so good. EACH turn on the collector now has 5000/5 turns = 1000 volts. But i don't touch this source and this is unlike what everyone does on this forum is play with the source you must NOT touch this!

Now make another collector of 1 full turn. Its LC =F will be quite a bit higher then the primary driver the ratio needs to be 1.618 higher so 1.618 megs.   In open air non cored magnetic coupled to the source this loop will acquire 1000 volts. Remember SM explained all this in his notes.

This secondary collector will acquire magnetic non loss induction to the primary driver. Its o/p tank is fed to a FWBR and will be 1000 volts and the current is limited ONLY by the wire resistance.

Again if i want more current i add another collector and it COPIES from the source! SM explains all this again in his notes. If i want more volts i add this collector in series to give 2000 volt supply.

SO

What are the magic frequencies? There are NONE!!! only magnetic induction is 1.618 higher then source F

1  Clock driver to start HV

2 Driver RE energizer collector F = diameter of L plus C

3 collector load = F = diameter of L plus C and is tuned to 1st collector for best results look for 1.618 higher then source.

O/p = turns ratio of collector 1 to collector 2 into FWBR = DC PLUS source modulation = 5Khz 1000 VDC

Sounds too simple then read Tesla patents, read everything about Don Smith and Kapanadze the latter has several working systems using RF magnetic induction devices.

Can i build this using parts from Rat Shack? YES Is it simple like SM said? YES and does it work like Tesla as SM suggested? YES Does it rely on resonance? YES and of simple low cost circuits no complex mosfet coil bangers? YES

The minimum number of collector coils required is 2 one source one copy. But i can have one source and 5 copies each copy becomes a NEW supply of FULL capacity.

Don't forget RE = RF in energy transformation!

If the COLLECTOR is wire as lamp chord but is HORIZONTAL, meaning that you have an INSIDE LOOP and an OUTER LOOP.  The INSIDE LOOP (three turns should be about just right for the 15") is what Bolt calls "THE SOURCE".  I agree that it can not be touched.  It is the tuned resonant tank.  (speaking just of one collector)

The OUTSIDE LOOP of the collector is for two things.  First, the DC Pulsed Bias is put into it, and this gains in CURRENT and becomes the pulsed DC OUTPUT.

Remember, the output is PULSED DC, not straightline, like that of a generator.  It is a result of taking the input freqs and full bridge rectifying them to turn it too pulsed DC and then to INPUT THAT PULSED DC BACK into the output loops.

Sqeezing the hose is caused by the nodes and antinodes of the standing waves, established in the INNER LOOP.

The collector is of two conductors.  Send the THREE FREQ's (two modulation, one Carrier) to an amp, mix them, send them to the INNER LOOP of the collector resonant tank circuit.  From there they go to the Control coils wrapped 90 degrees as in Lindsay's Three stack.  From the control coils, rectify with a full bridge and send into outer loop as PULSED DC BIAS.  This become the OUTPUT on the outer loop.

Collector segment equals two conductors.  Inside loop is resonant tank circuit, and outside loop is for bias that becomes output.

OUTPUT IS PULSED DC.  Created by rectifying.  Bias becomes the output.  Not hard to imagine, when you consider what is taking place with the CREATION of ALL OF THOSE FREQ's via intermodulation.  Creating all of those HARMONICS.  Standing waves, stops the current. Nodes, anti nodes.  Energy is neither created nor destroyed.  So when the inverted wave SMASHES into IT"S IDENTICAL TWIN from the SAME SOURCE, in the pica second, what happens the the energy?  The flux is disabled for that instant of time and the bias in the outer loop attract the electrons and grows in CURRENT. 

 

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #564 on: September 01, 2009, 04:58:19 AM »
What is the fundamental difference between the TPU and Tesla / kapanadze / Don Smith systems? The answer is GROUND. In the TPU it has no ground but requires a virtual ground.

The other systems need at least one real ground wire. The TPU can be simplified to work by using a ground wire but the ultimate version requires magnetic virtual ground coupling. By creating rotation this creates coupling. So how can we achieve this? Well to keep it simple and remain inside SM guidelines the source exciter collector will require 3 control coils around the source collector tank.

These control coils are wired in DELTA and fed by one source which creates 3 phases. The 2nd phase attempt to be 180 degree reactive but the 3rd phase is virtual and will combine to provide 120 degrees apart. The effect is rotation because this is how the rotoverter works.  No magic timing processor required its all passive stuff. (If you doubt this go read how Rotoverter works by creating 3 phases from single phase supply and has REAL magnetic rotation.)

Nothing else changes from my posts a couple back on general operation and only the source driver collector tank requires delta rotation and the answer to this could be straight forward. What ever we do on the source effects the ambient. The ambient is now in rotation as the RE free electrons magnetically coupled to the passive collector. I say passive but it actually becomes the o/p load tank.

SO to review.

1000 volt driver running at 5Khz is fed into a balum for impeadance matching. BTW it could easy be 1Khz or 25Khz it dont matter. This is fed into 1st control coil wrapped around the collector. The collector of 5 turns runs about 1 meg or anything it free runs at as LC. The 1000 volt driver 5Khz has enough EV to start the collector coil into resonance. At the same time is has rotary motor effect running around the outside from the Delta connections its timing is set by just one cap. The collector now has 5000 E Volts field PLUS 3 phase overlay and will be modulated by 5 Khz.

All this above so far is exciter and can run at a few milliwatts. When first turned on there will be a speed up time as E field expands larger and larger and the virtual ground has acquisition and M is RE etheric reply.

The 2nd collector is just 1 loop and will magnetically couple to the exciter. One loop? yes SM said this too best results was seen with stranded copper wire of a loop not thousand turns or iron or anything else!

As its only 1 turn it will see 1000 volts. Again in needs to be tuned 1.618 higher then the source so for argument its 1.618 megs. Now it will see the ether RE electrons will stream into this collector but in addition they come in to it as a rotation because the exciter is stirred via virtual 3 phases. I think this aspect creates the powerful virtual earth bonding. Stands to reason that one side being active the other passive the device will be polarized respect to the earth.

The passive collector will see 1000 volts AC at 1.618 megs modulated 5Khz AND will be seeing 3 phase magnetic overlay. This o/p is simply picked off and fed to FWBR and then to bulbs or whatever. A small amount is then fed back to the driver to self power. Any voltage and current be selected by using the correct ratios etc. The o/p current is limited by the heating of the wire on the passsive collector. Usually RE produces cold electricity and this does too the O/P is in effect cold RF and you will get freeze burns.

BUT the 3 phase rotation is counter productive. Yes it provides extremely powerful virtual earth bonding but im sure this creates the heating problems known too.

Its the best i can do using information from all of SM notes, Tesla, kapanadze and Don Smith but im 80% certain it will work with an earth wire and if rotary 3 phase left off during bench testing.






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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #565 on: September 01, 2009, 06:30:15 AM »

...
Until then I'll wait until the s/n ratio drops.
...

It's hopeless.   The trolls never sleep.

Tesla use a ground because he coupled through the earth, not for any of the other bullshit reasons that people conjure up.

RF and RE are not the same.

Some here would not know the diff between a harmonic and a tank circuit.

Anyone that knows their ass from a hole in the ground can tell who the bullshitters are by the bullshit they post. 

If it sounds like jibberish then it is jibberish.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #566 on: September 01, 2009, 09:16:30 AM »
The process of discovery requires new things ...

They are not well understood and that's the point.

Those that claim to are just as short of results as the other group...so why claim to?

Any why  bury the inspirations people ....just ignore them, OK?

pushing down others does not make you higher ...just the opposite is the case .

And if it is those who you want to help then you will have to do so in a constructive manner.
Which requires some manners..oops!

I better go back to sleep

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #567 on: September 01, 2009, 03:36:34 PM »
The process of discovery requires new things ...

They are not well understood and that's the point.

Those that claim to are just as short of results as the other group...so why claim to?

Any why  bury the inspirations people ....just ignore them, OK?

pushing down others does not make you higher ...just the opposite is the case .

And if it is those who you want to help then you will have to do so in a constructive manner.
Which requires some manners..oops!

I better go back to sleep

I'm not pushing anyone down.  Just voicing the facts.








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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #568 on: September 01, 2009, 04:24:36 PM »
Tesla in his Early work makes a transformer and Westinghouse latches onto the idea and now due to one reason or another years later we are still using one of Tesla's early devices even though Tesla designed and tested a meg type transformer and even said that it was better than what he had invented years before.  Westinghouse never bought into this scheme his assembly plants were already returning good revenue on investment.  Now comes along SM and copies Tesla's meg and here we are trying to replicate a replica.  Sm's power scource could well have been a battery or a some iron fuel rod.  But the action is a Tesla meg.
The spin is vital to the tpu just like it is vital to an ac power plant.  But if the spinning magnetic field or what appears to be a spinning magnetic field like in a three phase motor is created by something other than a mechanical device it is going to get stomped on from every direction because who the fuck would need a noisy stinky hot engine to generate electricity anymore.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #569 on: September 01, 2009, 05:13:18 PM »
@Sparks,
Ditto!