@AM

One of my lines of thinking is that the TPU is utterly, stupidly, totally SIMPLE.

So simple that it uses no electronics at all, except to start it.

Once started, no semiconductor, no spark gaps, no nothing.  Only an extremely clever arrangement of coils that forms an aether oscillator.

My thoughts have only started on this and I need to let this go through my neurons a lot more.

Earl

Quote from: AhuraMazda on March 20, 2008, 12:09:49 PM

@Earl

Due to the lack of high tech switching mechanism in the TPU (as described by Jack), is it safe to conclude that earth's magnetic field and Schuman resonance are
in fact the source of the energy captured by the TPU?

Perhaps the insertion of the magnets may had nothing to do with reed switches but to induce a small current in the coils which avalanched into a large one?

AM

I agree with Earl,...please people,..think simple!!!
It is just the coils and the way they interact with each other, no fancy crap what so ever,....keep it simple!!!

@Earl

First of all thanks for Re-ing your posts and not taking this request in a bad way.

This is an OU device and not a tv or any other FCC regulated device. When it comes to that point in time the solution is obvious and does not have to be integrated into the device as it stands today. That would be the least of ones problems.

There are probably only 7-8 main components to the LTPU and I doubt it very much that he would use even 2 of them to fix power output. That's 20% or 30% of the components and this does not make any sense at all. Not for what the device was used to show in the demos.

If these two fine wire chokes are for the output, they would have fried at 1000 watts plus when he did the sparking they would have fried again. Come on man. My 1000 watts inverter blew some months ago and taking a look inside, the output choke is heavy gauge with maybe 10 turns.

I will quote you;
There are unending different types of common-mode chokes.  The finer the wire the less current and more inductance. Unquote

That's exactly the situation here. OK, so I will stop beating around the bush cause I thought someone would catch.

Those fine wire toroids are used as self-induction required to charge those yellow caps that are required to discharge current through the coils in reversing polarity. Those chokes are not required for output control. They are both the starting point and end point in a loop that changes polarity on charge and discharge. But I'll try and make a diagram soon on t his and plan a first build.

Mr. Durban had enough time to realize the coils in the LPTU were arranged as four coils 90 degrees each. He says there were two layers but this would have to be further investigated when the clear video becomes available.

So, why two chokes? Why not one nice fat bugger. Because those chokes are used to control a pair of coils each around the TPU.

This all seems like a bunch of bull to me.  Has anyone gotten any of these devices even close to working yet?  Anyone can fake the Steven Mark's videos

its more likely that this is fraud perpetuated by the corporate oil/fuel interests or other free-energy/antigravity interests (military or elite) who simply wave it as a red herring across the trail to keep us away from real advancements in releasing mankind from the 'scarcity' of energy resources.

if it was real its more likely the guy would have been here using an alias sharing the principles that this so-called free energy device uses.

it seems like the best ampreage comes from wind (convection?), water (gravity), and sunlight (photons?) and theres an ABUNDANCE of it. Seems liek youd be better off harnessing higher efficiencies with these forces.

@sparks

very good spaks. Has anyone imagined how can a simple speaker create so much air movement and sound with so little voltage and current?

@all,

BTW, Bedini coils are using not conventional BEMF but eather energy, explicit explained by Bedini. There is definetly more to SM coils than we conventionally can think, specially hard-core EE/Scientists that can not see that extra.

So I also take Jack Durban's words with respect but with a huge grain of salt concerning his perceptions of the "simple" SM's device.

Side note: Durban could not recall an element of the device when Sterling asked him but than later he said he has "photographic memory", that sounded like a contradiction. May be it is not, but still sounded like one.

Fausto.

Hello All,

Loads of interesting discussions going on here. It's a shame that many have not investigated the effects of the rotating field inside the TPU that SM mentioned numerous times. My latest stent of research has been focused on this end.

I noticed that Jack never mentioned anything about the center collector coil. I have been trying to find any information out there that could show how a rotating magnetic field could passably cause a DC current to flow on such a collector when it is wound circumferentially around the toroid and the rotating field is rotating axially around the toroid (similar to an AC motor). Well, I *think* I may have found the answer we are looking for but I need some help from everyone here to find out more information on this interesting effect. It's called "Rotating Magnetic Field Current Drive" and it is commonly used in the plasma physics area to drive DC currents in plasma accelerators. Now before you get turned off by the plasma stuff, check out this post that I just put up on the Physics Forums not to long ago.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=223019

I have a feeling that no one over there will respond to it but if we can find some more information, namely, if this effect works in copper wire as well as plasmas, then this may be one plausible explanation for the DC output. Please check it out and let me know what you all think.

God Bless,
Jason O

Looking at the link below. Does this not look like the Hendershot device?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnxjLWR0VXM

Look who is posting at the youtube link....... JackDurban & Vorelco...... very strange their posts are all within a week....
turz

thanks for that info Jason, it sounds interesting.

My take on this is quite simple.    It works in conductors as well.  It's a type of eddy current phenomenon perhaps.

Here's an illustration.  Note that due to the relative velocity between a magnetic vector and charge carriers,  they are imparted a force and a current occurs normal to the disk.   This is calculated as (j = k(v x B)), where 'v' is the velocity of the charge relative to the magnetic field 'B', and 'k' a constant(conductivity).  This current density is labeled as 'j', and integrated over a surface would give the curent 'i' in amps.    Now this current further interacts with the magneitc field, and if you do a (j x B) calculation, it results in a vector labled 'F' , or  force on the charge carriers that is imparted by the rotating magnetic vector.  So it's a type of drag, and there has to be slip or it doesn't work  (slip is relative velocity between the charge carriers draged along and the rotating B vector)  In a conductor, this results in actual drag on the disk (you can physicaly spin the disk)   the same as in an AC motor.

An intersting thing to note is that the ultimate direction for the drag is the same for (+) or (-) charges.   The actual charge that moves depends on the type of material and what the charge carriers it has.  I'm sure there are finer details to the actual motion of the charges, but this should give a good idea what's involved. 

EM