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EMdevices

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #105 on: March 20, 2008, 02:39:08 AM »
I don't care so much why information was injected into the open forum,  if we figure out the device, in the end, WE ALL BENEFIT !!!

Having said that,  anybody who holds back info is doing all of us a disfavor (including themselves) and making the process of rediscovering the secrets last a lot longer.

EM


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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2008, 04:29:42 AM »
I posted a link in another thread about EMF and I just remembered something that was said that made me believe that it could be what this TPU is doing.

 Easy on me now and please excuse my ignorance if it happens to show in this post.

PURPOSE: To show self inductance and back EMF.

DESCRIPTION: Two circuits are compared.  One circuit is a 500 Watt lamp with the resistance of the lamp being the lone element of the circuit.  The lamp is simply turned on by a closing switch.  The lamp is seen to glow quickly.  There is a small thermal delay due to the time needed to heat the filament, about half second of time.

Another circuit has the same 500 Watt lamp.  But the lamp has a very large inductor connected in series.  By closing a knife switch the current to the series R L circuit is turned on.  The lamp will take a long time to turn on, about six seconds to achieve its full brightness from the current.  After coming to full brightness opening the knife switch to cut the current will produce a large spark from back EMF. This is seen as a giant arc of flame across the poles of the knife switch.


 http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/demopages/Demo/em/demo/5j2020.htm

 I posted this wondering if a BEMF or collapsing field could be tied in to another like putting battery's in a series or stacking them parallel?

 Not running the capacitors the same but taking the BEMF or collapsing fields of two or more and tying them together with out tying the capacitors together. Then have the capacitors send power back and forth to each other in pulses while taking off the BEMF or collapsing fields.

 The above experiment was said that the BEF contained more voltage then the initial voltage used.

 Does that make sense?

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #107 on: March 20, 2008, 04:51:12 AM »
Thanks for your participation and interest in today's interview.

Here our link to download today's interview with Jack Durban.
http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/recordings/2008/080319_JackDurban_MarksToroid.mp3
 (1:57 hr; 27 Mb)

I archived the list of questions we referenced/asked here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Archive:March_19%2C_2008_Questions_for_Jack_Durban

Here's a photo of Jack:
(http://peswiki.com/images/e/e4/Jack_Durban_jp70.jpg)

I also linked to OverUnity.com for some of the reviews of what we learned in today's interview.

And, again, here is the main account:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Jack_Durban's_experience_with_Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2008, 05:01:33 AM »
thanks for your efforts Sterling,  they are greatly appreciated.

EM

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #109 on: March 20, 2008, 07:04:50 AM »
That was an interesting interview but as with everything involved in this technology there is no new information even though new information has been made available. Thanks for trying Steven.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #110 on: March 20, 2008, 07:22:17 AM »
polypropylene capacitors and the chokes are what I believe to be key elements as well as the utilization of the BEMF or collapsing fields.

 The polypropylene capacitors are said to be very high voltage and have a low loss rate. If they were to be used to pulse coils in a back and forth motion, I would think that their BEMF's could be utilized to provide the amount of power output this TPU was said to have produced. It is said that the BEMF is a more powerful voltage then the voltage applied. Chokes I have no clue about but I will research them and try and tie them in to my conclusion. Thousands of pulsed BEMF voltage if frequent enough, should create a very hot device and possibly cause a melt down.

 I again see no over unity here and just another attempt to be deceived by the utilization of a BEMF or collapsing field. One thing that concerned me was that he said that Steve sent for mercury, it was said like it was something done quite often. Does anyone know why or what mercury has to do with this type of device?

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #111 on: March 20, 2008, 08:52:51 AM »
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One thing that concerned me was that he said that Steve sent for mercury, it was said like it was something done quite often. Does anyone know why or what mercury has to do with this type of device?

He was talking about SM's associate.  When I heard him say this in the interview, I immediately knew that "Mercury" would be misinterpreted as the element.  For a split-second I thought this might be a clever hint, but no.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #112 on: March 20, 2008, 10:18:08 AM »
Some people look, but never see.  Some people hear, but do not listen.
The interview was not a waste of time, but reading your post was.

No one ever mentioned Freddy Mercury.  You are having delusions because
you do not listen.

Earl

Hi, Tyler Durdan here again,

Let me tell you, I was initially contacted by Steve's boyfriend, Freddy Mercury,
Steve was a paranoid bighead and a lying cheat,
He contacted me through the yellow pages with his top secret technology.
Steve may well be dead, and NO-ONE but him knew how the device worked.

Yes I'm still of the same opinion after having heard the interview. What a waste of time.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2008, 11:41:43 AM »
Easy on me now and please excuse my ignorance if it happens to show in this post.
[snip]

@Nightlife

It is not easy to excuse ignorance when it takes up so much bandwidth and generates noise.

[snip]
Does that make sense?

@Nightlife

I have yet to see any posts from you that make sense.

@All   @MAC

Concerning the toroid chokes in the center of the large TPU, the probability that they are used as a tuned tank circuit - or a charge/discharge circuit is close to zero, in my opinion.

I have said this before, but not too many people pay attention.  It is industry standard practice to use common-mode line chokes as RF interference reduction.  There are probably hundreds of millions such chokes and filters sold and used each year.  In order to meet legal requirements they are essentially obligatory in every electronic equipment.  The chokes come in all shapes and sizes.  Some are in toroid form.  Since each winding has 110V potential difference, in spite of enameled wire, often an insulating spacer is used between the two windings.  Exactly this insulating spacer along with the two windings can clearly be seen in the large TPU.  The image 231_Drosseln.gif shows not only a choke with spacer for single-phase, but also a plastic star insulator for a 3-phase choke.

The coils themselves are not sufficient for an RFI filter.  Also needed are so-called X and Y capacitors.  There are different classes of X and Y capacitors called X1, X2, Y1, and Y2, depending on voltage and security specifications.

This is everyday, standard, traditional, classical stuff.  Nothing new or exciting about common-mode chokes with X and Y condensers.

For further information consult the attached images and hyperlink.
http://iprinceps.egloos.com/1402906

I repeat, the probability that SM used the common-mode chokes and capacitors to filter RF while letting the DC pass to the output, is close to 100%.

Earl

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2008, 12:09:49 PM »
@Earl

Due to the lack of high tech switching mechanism in the TPU (as described by Jack), is it safe to conclude that earth's magnetic field and Schuman resonance are
in fact the source of the energy captured by the TPU?

Perhaps the insertion of the magnets may had nothing to do with reed switches but to induce a small current in the coils which avalanched into a large one?

AM

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #115 on: March 20, 2008, 12:31:51 PM »
    I just did a test of cap discharge to cap and came up with really strange results.  Couple that with coils and recapturing the cemf and this has room for more thought. I will have to see where it goes. Anyhow really simple test but I made a small mistake on the test and had the caps backwards. The results were very interesting to say the least. I disbelieved the results so much I had to do it over very carefully again. Same results.
   Two 12v in series for a reading of 25.1v relaxed. One 10,000uf 80vcap and one 6800uf 50v. The test was to take the small one to the large one. I felt that to be the other way. Small oversight on my part. Load up the 10,000 with 25.1 and measure to make sure. Three second connection to the small one and then read the voltage left in both. Here is where it went wrong.

   C1 init    C1 end    C2 end     C1end+C2end/C1init
    25.1       14.74      14.41        1.161%      OOOPS?

   Now I have to find that torrid that had the big caps on top with what may well have been diodes. Couple that with the small torrids I am starting to get a pic in my head of where I want to go with it. Could turn into one really wild osc with the outside winding making enought to keep it flying. Done right that ringing could be kept going a long time ala teslas comment.

OK off my soap box and back in my cage. Master should never have let me out today. Very sick and full of pain killers.  ;D

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #116 on: March 20, 2008, 01:14:19 PM »
@AM

One of my lines of thinking is that the TPU is utterly, stupidly, totally SIMPLE.

So simple that it uses no electronics at all, except to start it.

Once started, no semiconductor, no spark gaps, no nothing.  Only an extremely clever arrangement of coils that forms an aether oscillator.

My thoughts have only started on this and I need to let this go through my neurons a lot more.

Earl

@Earl

Due to the lack of high tech switching mechanism in the TPU (as described by Jack), is it safe to conclude that earth's magnetic field and Schuman resonance are
in fact the source of the energy captured by the TPU?

Perhaps the insertion of the magnets may had nothing to do with reed switches but to induce a small current in the coils which avalanched into a large one?

AM

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #117 on: March 20, 2008, 01:16:30 PM »
SM did tell us to look at Hendershot, which also needed to be aligned with the earths field in the first model like SMs.  Then later both of their devices eradicated this need.

Hendershots device is just coils, no circuitry.  SM tells us "its just a knowledge of the coils and how they interact, their is no mass circuitry, very simple".

Hendershots device also slowly built up the power?



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« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2008, 01:22:21 PM »
@earl

You are correct about the noise filtering chokes.
I have build my twin 5u4 power supply using 3 of these noise isolating circuits.
There are also a lot of orange drops and the wires are led thrue ferrite rings which also reduce noise.
I use this supply to filter the signal comming out of my inverter so it does not affect the TUBES and the equipment behind it.

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« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2008, 01:23:15 PM »
Way to go Marco!  Are we back on the trail!