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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #495 on: August 26, 2009, 04:33:22 PM »
The person posting as Steven is not , Im sorry to say.
Perhaps this will give us some idea of the lengths people will go to to create chaos.

The other mis info about Steven from years ago is from similar intentions.

well written and had me fooled  for a bit but your spelling has let you down.

I wonder why ?  Please tell us as that in itself would be something  interesting.
I just think you have  many of the characteristics of a fuckwit ..at this stage

Lindsay

Starting from his second post, the difference in spelling and language compared to Steven’s letters posted by you is absolutely obvious.

Kames.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #496 on: August 26, 2009, 06:26:35 PM »
@Mannix

Hence why I have been pushing to get this resolved before we all take these words and run to the bank, then find out there are no funds.

But actually, I am very happy to learn of this news flash because it reinforces my developing theory of operation and taking away this SMers posts makes the theory even more logical and plausible based on some small tests so far.

Don't worry, there is no stopping us. We will have a tpu. Maybe not the SM TPU but from all the tests, etc., I am sure a new form of energy source will be discovered. I have a long post to polish off today and will post it in the Back to Basics thread, since it is in fact getting back to basics with a possible new way of looking at the TPU. lol

But just to recap in this thread, the first post was from SM where he explains that he never asked us to spend so much time and effort on his device, etc., etc., sort of trying to take away any culpability in the adventure. Then after that post, this other shmuck took over. OK, now it makes sense to me. Thanks.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #497 on: August 26, 2009, 06:56:44 PM »
Focus on solutions not problems and you will find there is less chaos. You will be less susceptible to noise and the answers more available.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #498 on: August 26, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »
Focus on solutions not problems and you will find there is less chaos. You will be less susceptible to noise and the answers more available.

@GK

You are  very right about that, but when you are in your nice quiet lab and there is a fly that keeps buzzing around your head, it's always a little harder to concentrate. In this case, we can say "this fly is swatted". So it is good now.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #499 on: August 27, 2009, 03:00:00 AM »
Dear friends,

Under the right conditions it is possible to cause a small nuclear reaction in certain types of iron. In the early days i wrote about discharges of magnetic energy similar to the discharge of magnetic energy during an atomic explosion. I even pointed out this was related to my power technology. Nobody seems to wonder about that or why the Atomic Energy Commission of the federal government was involved. It is possible to cause a small nuclear reaction that releases some energy by converting the material. If you take the energy and use it to cause another reaction and it's energy to cause another, you can see that this process can go very wrong. There is a reason i call my devices bombs. If the unit hits the correct frequency and stays there too long it will start to convert too much material and energy at once. This will only take a second,or less. I did point out that I did not want to be responsible for giving out information making it possible that someone would make a big crater of a hole where their house used to stand with resulting death of themselves and possibly their families and neighbors too. It is in my writings quite literally. I never said these things were safe. However, i do think there are ways to make it safe in a way that it runs without the danger of self destruction.

Sincerely,
SM

I am not sure if this information can be dismissed. The original SM was talking about his experiments with tubes at some point.

If you dig, you will find some earlier tubes used to contain radio-active materials. Some also used to have thoriated tungsten fillaments.

Is it possible that Bedini (perhaps unknowingly) was using thoriated tungsten welding rods in his generator?

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« Reply #500 on: August 28, 2009, 05:31:24 AM »
As I have yelled, shouted, whispered, or tried to explain, the secret is in the three frequencies.  They are mixed together and then sent to the collector, from the collectors to the control coil. 

These three frequencies INTERMODULATE to CREATE hundreds of frequencies.  With the CORRECT frequencies, you end up with the HARMONICS of the fundamental.  Actually, it comes out with EIGHT harmonics.

All of these CREATED WORST CASE SCENARIOS FOR FREQUENCIES, converge, in the THIRD ORDER INTERMODULATION. 

Each collector is made from LAMP CHORD.  The LAMP CHORD is wound so that it is HORIZONTAL and has an INNER LOOP and an OUTER LOOP.  The INNER LOOP is tuned as a tank circuit to the fundamental.  The second collector to the second harmonic and the third collector to the third harmonic.

I have ALL THREE FREQUENCIES, and the PROOF IN THE MATH, but can not release it without MANNIX's permission because I made a promise.

WITHOUT THE THREE FREQUENCIES and UNDERSTANDING INTERMODULATION and UNDERSTANDING that when the REAL SM spoke of RESONANCE, he was speaking of HARMONICS and what happens when they hit together in a moments time a tuned resonant tank circuit.

I am working of my own and the going is slow because I am not an EE.  Why can NO ONE READ THE REAL SM's WORDS and see what I see??

I need EXPERIENCED EXPERIMENTERS to assist.  Those I know are too afraid or to lost in their own brilliance.

This IS THE ANSWER.  Is there not ONE PERSON here who understands?

Anyone looking at the engineering report on the 6" TPU and who has wound one, using the REAL SM APPROVED TPU stack would know that it is TOO LIGHT to contain any iron or steel. 

The SECRET is NOT in the materials it is in THE THREE FREQUENCIES< INTERMODULATION: HARMONICS: STANDING WAVES: PULSED DC.

The TPU FUNCTIONS just like a TYPE of Vaccume Tube.

The SECRET is in the COILS and how they Correspond to one another, as this "harmonic" intermodulation is created.




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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #501 on: August 28, 2009, 07:04:54 AM »
Hello all,

@Bruce_TPU

....without Mannixs permission!!!...

NICE!!! VERY NICE!!!

.....TOO light???....a 6" TPU???

Well, Im not a genius but sometimes it could be usefull to read my posts. Have you seen that I found in 1 of SMs videos where he told us that a 6" TPU has the weight of 1 1/2 pound??

OK, Im dreaming!

Of course I also know that with good made AIR coils a TPU can "bless" you with a runaway.

Yes, a TPU is something like a triode vacuum tube, thats clear and I agree with that.

Otto

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« Reply #502 on: August 28, 2009, 07:55:31 AM »
Why did you ever made an nondisclosure promise to Mannix?Why do you need his permission to disclose your own work?
Put it on paper(PDF) and load it up.Basta.

As I have yelled, shouted, whispered, or tried to explain, the secret is in the three frequencies.  They are mixed together and then sent to the collector, from the collectors to the control coil. 

These three frequencies INTERMODULATE to CREATE hundreds of frequencies.  With the CORRECT frequencies, you end up with the HARMONICS of the fundamental.  Actually, it comes out with EIGHT harmonics.

All of these CREATED WORST CASE SCENARIOS FOR FREQUENCIES, converge, in the THIRD ORDER INTERMODULATION. 

Each collector is made from LAMP CHORD.  The LAMP CHORD is wound so that it is HORIZONTAL and has an INNER LOOP and an OUTER LOOP.  The INNER LOOP is tuned as a tank circuit to the fundamental.  The second collector to the second harmonic and the third collector to the third harmonic.

I have ALL THREE FREQUENCIES, and the PROOF IN THE MATH, but can not release it without MANNIX's permission because I made a promise.

WITHOUT THE THREE FREQUENCIES and UNDERSTANDING INTERMODULATION and UNDERSTANDING that when the REAL SM spoke of RESONANCE, he was speaking of HARMONICS and what happens when they hit together in a moments time a tuned resonant tank circuit.

I am working of my own and the going is slow because I am not an EE.  Why can NO ONE READ THE REAL SM's WORDS and see what I see??

I need EXPERIENCED EXPERIMENTERS to assist.  Those I know are too afraid or to lost in their own brilliance.

This IS THE ANSWER.  Is there not ONE PERSON here who understands?

Anyone looking at the engineering report on the 6" TPU and who has wound one, using the REAL SM APPROVED TPU stack would know that it is TOO LIGHT to contain any iron or steel. 

The SECRET is NOT in the materials it is in THE THREE FREQUENCIES< INTERMODULATION: HARMONICS: STANDING WAVES: PULSED DC.

The TPU FUNCTIONS just like a TYPE of Vaccume Tube.

The SECRET is in the COILS and how they Correspond to one another, as this "harmonic" intermodulation is created.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #503 on: August 28, 2009, 08:23:57 AM »
@Bruce
You'll be probably bombarded with pm's about hows and whys it's working. instead of repeating to each and every one or to just a few "selected" ones,
why don't you write down your theory and by all means load it up.if you're sure that this is it just do it.
@Mannix
Why does he need your permission? it's your work? if you were the real SM...that would explain some things.if you're not SM it seems to me that you have more info about the subject.Why don't you share?Why that game?

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« Reply #504 on: August 28, 2009, 01:41:45 PM »
@ bruce ...  i do not doubt your work in the least

but im sure there much safer ways to achieve ou ...  :)

with out the use of 3 freqs...

and im also sure there is more than 8 harmonics... ;)

ist!


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« Reply #505 on: August 28, 2009, 03:59:01 PM »
Not to intrude, but as Ronette has mentioned, there are frequencies that you don't want to hit when working with TMT's or any other direct RE generator.  (This is personal experience talking, I'm afraid.)

The frequencies are WELL documented by a guy named Tesla, who actually had poor people sitting on generators and exposed them to various Frequencies.  (There are other ramifications of this, but that's for some other threads...)

SO, all I want to say is, and please assume I'm saying this LOUDLY, if you wish to use the TMT or Pure RE in general, read the frequency spreads and effects in Tesla's reports so you can chose a frequency that won't damage bio devices (Plants, Humans, animals, and things along those lines.)  Once a little deeper into clean RE, these things become obvious, but what I have found is that the more I learn about "Clean" RE Frequencies, the less I can fall back on my EE background, and the more I need to assume I know nothing and learn, learn, learn.

The hardest part for me is accepting that what I am calling "RE" really isn't.  I actually don't know what word to use, so RE is it for now, but as the specific words "Radiant Energy" specify the "Field?" or "particles?" flowing radially from the wire, yet I CAN flow them down (Well, call it outside....) the wire, that tested effect denies the word "Radiant".  For those sticklers out there, please excuse my lack of a correct word for this energy form.

I have noticed a TMT does produce gain, but haven't figured a way of taking the "Clean" RE and converting it to standard current flow, without destroying the operating process.  If I can figure out more, I will put it all here, but, as usual for me, I don't know enough yet to be helpful.

Bruce!!!   When in doubt, check it out.  I cannot imagine Mannix denying you permission, if you were to ask.  Of course, keep the "Conversation" between the two of you, and be prepared to take heat if he says yes, but asks you to say he didn't say anything.  (I hope you both understand..)  Of course, if he says no, you don't need to admit that to us, nor mention you even asked, so as not to raise eyebrows.  I have respect for those capable of keeping their promises.  Do what you think is right and honest, not to satisfy my or any others interests.

It, RE or whatever, charges capacitors, batteries, and is inductive.

The receiver of a TMT converts it via induction with a secondary, or it can be used without conversion, per Tesla's writings.

If you look at the papers I recently posted concerning how electrons start to flow in a wire, and imagine if you kept applying and removing the initial pulse that causes the displacement current and it's effects...

I am truly sorry that the truth of the matter is so much more simple than "harmonics" or "3 magic frequencies" or "pixie dust".

If you follow the work of Dr. Stiffler, he is doing the same thing and getting great results, OU, all that, etc...

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EMDevices, do you still have your small Tesla coil?  If so, make a receiver to complete the circuit.

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Re: Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !
« Reply #506 on: August 28, 2009, 05:48:32 PM »
Lets boils this down some more.

The 3 freqs create an event that looks just like a non diffusive moment or high speed magnetic moment. The cancelling of the flux is this also as is the Kunel explanations, as is the Bedini motors as is the Energia Celeste as is the resonance of Moray and Thrapp devices and Otto's windings.
Now I realize I am excluding alot of detail but that only splits the parties into different camps. But let not this deter us.

If you read the explainations and postings of Grumpy, Sparks, and Loner you will see the event fully documented in civilian and black project descriptions(Yes!). On the electronic side we have EMD, Poynt99, Marco, Earl and others. On the eletromechanical side we have wattsup and Bruce. Sorry if I have pigeon-holed here. But the predominances have struck patterns of thinking.

Caveat:
My current health status has gotten better and I can now lift my left elbow higher than my lower rib. I can put things back together on the bench.

So with that said. I have Bruce's coils, mine, Otto's, Moby's, Marco's and I am on the next step to run these through the rest of the year. Bruce's concern with freq control is admirable as without this we get spaz events which I am myself like others here responsible for. But without the control other factors of runaway take over and offer a level of control that is automatic. I don't know what stable bandwith is for tubes but I saw 5MHZ to 6MHZ in solid state. Iron and copper offer their own in the mix.

I have an adequate amount of rings to test with the 2 pulse control while taking advantage of the non diffusion or excluding conduction current like Grumpy has been pushing. This drive protocol clearly explains the cold current that is available in the skin effect in a space charge environment. Enough of the cold current from resonance and you achieve the cooling or low amperage runs. This is what I have been obtaining from gleening all the positive tests and posted results.

I have no other distractions except for any legal run ins with my testing the Solfeggio Harmonic Integration Transmitter in echoing chambers around the planet. :o

Hope this on the mark for most here? The pain pill time frame has left me to just sit on take note of the inventory of builds, tests, videos, and all posts. To be still has been the best medicine so far.

I hope to post the pix of the total finished drive device this weekend. It is sweet.
The drive mechanism can be used to push electrons, magnetic fields, heat, light or sound depending on the target, drive destination / transmitting material, or operation bandwith. This is the basic tenant.

--giantkiller. What if you make your LC tank as big as a castle?

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« Reply #507 on: August 28, 2009, 07:10:53 PM »
The "effect" or whatever you want to call it that manifest before electrons start to flow, is proportional to the rate of the change in the polarization of the dielectric medium around the conductor.  More voltage or a faster rate of change increases the effect.   Other static fields (magnetic or electric) with the correct orientation can also increase the polarization of the space around the conductor.

Per Tesla's own words, resonance was used to work up the potential to a very high level and you can also achieve this with a transformer or various other means.  Steinmetz showed that you can dump a capacitor or an inductor to produce your pulse.  SM's method with bifilar coils is very clever and has an unusually high compression rate.

Peaks of the displacement current oscillation (which is positively biased - by the way) can be several nanoseconds apart, 200 ns or more would not be unreasonable.   This oscillation seems related to the length of the conductor and maybe other factors like self-inductance, self capacitance, insulation, wire diameter, etc.

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« Reply #508 on: August 29, 2009, 03:25:00 PM »
@Bruce
You'll be probably bombarded with pm's about hows and whys it's working. instead of repeating to each and every one or to just a few "selected" ones,
why don't you write down your theory and by all means load it up.if you're sure that this is it just do it.
@Mannix
Why does he need your permission? it's your work? if you were the real SM...that would explain some things.if you're not SM it seems to me that you have more info about the subject.Why don't you share?Why that game?


For the three CORRECT frequencies to be released in the public domain, permission must be given.  It was a promise.  It is not Mannix's fault.  YET, without those THREE CORRECT frequencies, the SM TPU will never work. 

For each size TPU, the fundamental frequency will change, but the two CARRIER frequencies will ALWAYS stay the same.  The two carrier frequencies, BECAUSE OF THE MATH (Study INTERMODULATION) ALWAYS produce the same effect of producing hundred of harmonics of whatever fundamental is placed with them and of CONVERGING ALL EIGHT harmonics of whatever fundamental is placed as the third frequency in the THIRD ORDER INTERMODULATION> (study intermodulation)

NO OTHER TWO FREQUENCY"S will do this BECAUSE OF THE MATH.  It is stunning to see the spreadsheet.  Others here on this forum, in private have seen it.

But seeing is not believing, unfortunately.  You must grasp the concept of INTERMODULATION used to PRODUCE REPLICAS of the FUNDAMENTAL and its HARMONICS and then to have them all CONVERGE at one point.  THIS IS NOT A FAIRY TALE.  It is quite awesome to see on paper.  We must make it work.

The three frequency's MUST BE mixed in a TUBE AMP or MIXER of some sort, and then INPUT into the collectors, in order for INTERMODULATION to occur.  SIMPLY INPUTING three seperate frequencies into a coil will NEVER GIVE THE DESIRED EFFECT.

The coils MUST BE TUNED to the fundamental, collector 1, via a tuned resonant tank.  Second Harmonic, via a tuned resonant tank, collector 2.  Third Harmonic, via a tuned resonant tank, collector 3.

Input frequency's
Fundamental - Changes based on the circumference>We have the fundamental for the 15" TPU
Carrier frequency 1 - see description above
Carrier frequency 2 - see description above

Things that assist with intermodulation:
Mixing the signals
Carbon Resistor
Antenna (RF)
Pulsed DC Bias overlaid

Things needed in general:
Split signal after the three inputs MIX.
One leg of split signal inverted 180 degrees.
Standing waves established in innerloop of collector.
Pulsed Dc bias added.
ALL POWER SOURCES from Batteries only.
STABLE freq gen.
Voltage required will most certainly be 350 or higher.
KILL SWITCH between the battery and the THREE Freq Gens.
ODD EVEN harmonics, like a tube amp produces.  KEEPS THE MATH correct (study intermodulation).

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« Reply #509 on: August 29, 2009, 04:56:46 PM »
The "effect" or whatever you want to call it that manifest before electrons start to flow, is proportional to the rate of the change in the polarization of the dielectric medium around the conductor.  More voltage or a faster rate of change increases the effect.   Other static fields (magnetic or electric) with the correct orientation can also increase the polarization of the space around the conductor.

It is clear from the operation of capacitors that a displacement current creates a magnetic field with the same polarity as current going the same direction.

When displacement current forms, a curl of the B-field is generated to which the magnetic moments of copper (a diamagnetic material) attempts to cancels out. Because such a B-field can be made of such a magnitude to domineer over the magnetic dipole moments among neighboring copper atoms, the subatomic particles of those copper atoms will attempt to align their magnetic moment dipole axes in helical configurations in contrast to their typical random configurations. The change of configuration actually consumes potential energy by the formation of "paratoroidic (magnetic) moments" of copper (an as-yet-unconfirmed paramagnetic analogue of the experimentally validated "ferrotordic (magnetic) moment").

See timeline on verification of ferrotorodicity: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Hek&tbo=1&tbs=tl%3A1&q=ferrotoroidicity&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

By keeping the impedance of the back-spike larger (i.e. voltage higher and its current lower) than in the initial pulse, copper's reaction to the voltage back-spike can provide the same polarity of magnetic field as current going forwards. The back-voltage does dissipate after a while, and you are right when you say that, "This oscillation seems related to the length of the conductor and maybe other factors like self-inductance, self capacitance, insulation, wire diameter, etc."

So where does the energy come from to restore the potential energy lost via alignment of the paratoroidic (magnetic) moments? Certain frequencies of electromagnetic radiation get absorbed by the (PARAtoroidic) arrangements of magnetic moments in the copper atoms, in effect, restoring their potential energy. When some of the moments fall out of alignment, others will follow suit.

I do not see this a violation of any laws of thermodynamics. The 2nd law in particular says nothing about any "impossibility" of zones of decreasing entropy, nor is it disproven by the existence of self-organizing structures. Don't get me started on the 1st law, that is simply fact because we can always define a potential energy in reference to new energies discovered. And the 3rd law is about absolute zero....

The generation of frost in some failed operations of the Steven Mark TPU device can be explained by generation of excess magnetic fields. If you remember the fact that temperature is dependent on motion, it is clear that atoms locked in position as a result of mutual magnetic inductance have a lower temperature; this is obviously not the same as keeping a macroscopic object still! At some point, this temperature change can spur surrounding photons to make up the difference, restoring the atoms into their natural, random configuration.
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