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otto

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #270 on: March 28, 2008, 09:37:18 AM »
Hello all,

@Grumpy,

I see that you want exactly the same as Im doing.

1. use tubes - OK, you dont want them

2. pulse a flash unit from a camera, maybe without the big electrolytic cap, for a higher frequency - output  sine waves - remember the video? It looks to me that there is a little transformer from a flash unit sitting in the centre of the TPU AND if my memory is OK, under this little transformer was a extra coil.....hmmm...was it EM with his coils driving LEDs....

3. pulse a flyback transformer - output sines

4. build your little air transformer - primary - secondary and then connect 1 end of the primary to 1 end of the secondary so you have biiig signals

5. buy a little pulse transformer, connect this baby to have an high output voltage and pulse it. They can be pulsed in MHz, cheap, very good insulated between the primary and secondary.....I cant buy them....ha!!

As I cant buy them, I pulsed a little oridinary transformer 230V/12V but in reverse. Of course, 1 end of the primary connected to 1 end of the secondary. After 20 minutes of pulsing the transformer got hot but I saw a very nice spark and this means that I really had big signals. Yes, the iron core of the transformer got hot. We all know why but I only wanted to see the high voltage and I saw it!

When you rise the voltage of the pulses and when you feed them into our TPU you will have pulses in kilovolts because, as we know, the TPU already rises the voltage of the pulses.

I have only 1 question, as always: why square waves??? The TPU will anyway convert this square waves at some frequency mixes to sine waves. So why not use sine waves? Our master was talking about music, amplifiers, stereo....

At high frequencies, a sine wave looks like a kick. Or, if you stretch a kick from a square wave you will see.....hmmm.....a lot of .....

A few days ago I connected my scope to the loudspeaker from my radio. I heared the music and could see the waves. I hated myself because I didnt finish my tube oscillators. No time. I connected my TPU to this loudspeaker. It was clear that there couldnt be an effect but I was curious.

Otto

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #271 on: March 28, 2008, 04:20:26 PM »
I can also confirm a possible voltage amplification effect under no load resonant conditions.  I used an iron wire coil of around 10 turns for the delay coil.  First I established resonance of the bifilar coil without the iron wire; this was at 5.557MHz.  When I added the iron wire, the system detuned to a lower frequency of around 5.2MHz and the resulting peak-peak voltage was greater by around 20% (interesting how the two tests coincide).

I was driving the system with 10V p-p square waves through a 100K resistor, and the no-load p-p voltage was 11.4V.  When I switched the generator to sine wave, the coil p-p voltage dropped to around 8V.

In all cases the voltage scoped across the coil was a perfect sine wave.

I am not sure what to make of this...I am not seeing any sharply defined kicks, and this could just be simple resonant voltage rise occuring.  Shorting the 100K resistor destroyed any voltage rise as expected.

Any thoughts Spherics?

Eldarion
Hope you guys know that ANY coil works as a low-pass filter and that the low-passed square wave tone appears to have a higher peak-to-peak voltage, and that depends on the cutoff point of the coil. The higher the cutoff point, the higher will be the raise. Of course, this raise does not have any OU characteristics, because the effective RMS will be lower than that of the original square wave.


@aleks

I think people are aware of what you are saying. In my test the input and output pulses had identical shape. When I adjusted the scope to display both pulses with the same scale on the screen and put one on top of another, there was ZERO visual shape difference. That means, there was no ?resonance? as LC like and there was no effect of any kind of filtering.

Kames.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #272 on: March 28, 2008, 04:21:01 PM »
Square wave!

I can get there with a voltage amplifier - thanks all anyway.


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #273 on: March 28, 2008, 04:36:13 PM »
Grumpy , did you get that schematic you were looking for?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #274 on: March 28, 2008, 04:45:58 PM »
    Tesla figured out how to use a bifilar winding so that you didn't need an external capacitor to obtain a resonant circuit at highfrequency.  Just a coil and a frequency. Automatic resonance.  Genious.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil
   
    SM or Spherics or someone figured out how to measure the voltage developed across the bifilar "capacitor" when the current through the winding was phased displaced by the ambient magnetic field. 

    The coils as described will not give you much gain in and of themselves.  What it gives you is a moving magnetic field.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #275 on: March 29, 2008, 12:25:03 AM »
It appears that a clean 300v sqaure wave is not easy.

EDIT: I'm going to cheat a little - hope 1 to 2kv will work.  No SS in the way.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #276 on: March 29, 2008, 12:41:46 AM »
Marco has suggested to me to use tubes... my analog experiments has been with 12AX7s, you can get them in USA at Guitar Center. I think max plate voltage of 12AX7 is 330V.

Otherwise Maybe you can get your 300V+ with power stage tubes like 6L6?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #277 on: March 29, 2008, 02:01:31 AM »
I like Spheric's concept and am interested in simpler configurations (dare I say mobius) that could be created using the same basic principle, for if Spherics configuration is as efficient as he states in comparison to SM's then it will be overkill when only smaller loads are required to be powered. With this in mind I compiled a PDF of the basic principles of Spherics theory of generating excess energy from the ether, with the specific idea of isolating the core principles and as much generally useful information as possible, without being too device specific. I believe it will serve as a useful reference and have attached a copy to this post (text file only, due to forum's tiny file size restriction) should others wish to use it. It is really a quick-reference of the main points of Spheric's posts, the original posts should always be referred to if context is required, best be familiar with them anyway.

A

P.S. if you want the PDF, which is prettier and preserves the highlighting from Spheric's posts, you can PM me with your email address and I will send it to you.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2008, 03:12:18 AM by acerzw »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #278 on: March 29, 2008, 03:05:46 AM »

(snip)
This diagram shows you what is needed to get a kick, and view a kick on an oscilloscope.

No iron as a core. Wind on a stiff poly pipe. Use copper wire for the windings.
Keep the delay coil 2+ feet away from the bifilar coil.
Keep the bifilar as far away as possible from your oscilloscope and permanent magnets.
Pulse with a square wave.
Tune as per previous post.

Someone mentioned about connecting the oscilloscope.
Use two channels and connect two probes, one probe to each coil.
Not one probe across the two coils.


@ Kames and Eldarion

Good job. Time to test the pickup and look for some DC, perhaps.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #279 on: March 29, 2008, 03:17:25 AM »



The SM designs all work on the same set of principles. A pulse into a coil generates an expanding magnetic field. The magnetic field comes into being by an underlying patterning of the ether. It is a cascade action on the part of the ether that causes the EFFECT of an expanding magnetic field. If you then cause a second magnetic field to expand through the same space as the already expanding magnetic field, a specific cascading action, apattern is setup in the ether which is the EQUIVALENT of a magnetic field and has many of the characteristics of a magnetic field. By this I mean it will interact with metals, and cause the EFFECT of a current, IF the field is moving across the metal.  I will refer to this field as a COMP field from now on. But please be clear this COMP field is in addition to the expected magnetic field. This COMP field, a patterning in the ether, is dampened and effectively nulled by magnetic metals. This is why if you are using an iron core in the coils named control coils you will never get a working TPU.

No doubt this may be disconcerting to many who have fond references to baling wire, iron wire and the like. I will now digress onto the circumstance surrounding the initial eureka moment as I understand them. Audiophiles who frequent this watering-hole will no doubt have heard of QUAD ESL electrostatic speakers. An essential design element is the incoming signal is sent into, I believe, 7 or 8 progressive delay elements. These elements delay the signal by microseconds each time.

As part of experiments, associated with what would become his 3D spacial control patents, he was using these delay elements with custom made bifilar wound voice coils (i.e. air coils) and unexpectedly detected an anomolous signal on his spectrum analyser.

Steven Mark created his own delay elements using iron wire after several years of intermittent experimentation. The technique was to carefully wrap a bifilar air-coil using copper wire. The longer the length of copper the better but using identical lengths. The two coils were connected to the SAME pulse waveforms in parallel so that the magnetic field is additive NOT cancelling. The delay element was added in series to only one of the coils that made up the bifilar coil. The delay coil was made from insulated iron wire wound into an air coil. An oscilloscope was connected to both COPPER coils. The setup would be pulsed with a dc offset square wave (i.e. 0 to 20V not -10 to 10V) at the resonant frequency of the bifilar coils. The tuning consisted of cutting the iron wire down in length until an unexpected pulse/signal appeared. This pulse is the kick. I will refer to these tuned bifilar coils as kick coils.

You are privy to the information that the COMP field is nulled by iron. Those who so wish may like to take some time to fully comprehend the frustrations of closely packing the delay and bifilar coils together only to find the unexpected pulse was no longer appearing!!!  This is what SM had to contend. And Jack says SM was not technical. Bunkum!!

From traditional electrical engineering view point the kick coils for a particular quantity of energy now put out the expected magnetic field but also put out the COMP field which has effects like a magnetic field. In a world that excludes the ether, these coils are overunity. If the world took into account the ether, then the coils would not be thought of as overunity.

The magnetic field is now larger than expected. All that needs to be done is to rotate this field in a circle and intercept the field with an output coil. The captured energy is greater than the input energy because of the energy apparently created by the COMP field. If you arrange all N poles of the kicker coils so that they point towards the center and pulse each coil in turn you will get a rotating magnetic field. There are many ways to create a rotating magnetic field. A secondary effect of a rotating field is the entrainment of the COMP field so that the pattern in the ether is partially additive. A big problem was the iron in the delay coils. It was found that a large solenoid fed with a DC current to produce a static magnetic field around all of the kicker coils allowed the kicker coils to be tuned with the iron delay coils in close proximity.  (Bruce here:  This is a Static Magnetic DC Bias...Sound Familiar??   ;) )

Intercepting only N poles of the kicker coils means you get a DC output along with a smaller induced ripple from pulsing the kicker coils.

Feedback of the output into the input was achieved using toroidal saturable inductor switches. I've copied the picture from other messages of the inductor switches. Refer to the patent for an example to see how these switches are used. Early designs used a small magnet to bias the saturable inductors.

All SM devices had small batteries to power the LC oscillators. The LC oscillators were used as control pulse currents to the saturable inductors. To start the process high voltage capacitors were step charged, this is why the coils took time to start-up! The first few pulses came from these pre-charged capacitors being switched via saturable inductors. Part of the DC output was feedback to keep the capacitors fully charged.

My design shown at the very start of this message thread eliminated the need for an iron delay coil because the pattern is set up in the ether outside of the influence of copper metal of the control coils. It directly allows the COMP field to be generated IN FREE SPACE. By placing the output toroidal coil within this free space the COMP field is intercepted. The complete lack of any magnetic materials within this design is what allows this to happen.

I do believe there are elements of information here that you will not have been aware of before. I trust this is enough to convince at least some of you to reflect and ponder more seriously on this material.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19820016542_1982016542.pdf



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« Reply #280 on: March 29, 2008, 04:17:05 AM »
@bruce   and everyone

Iorn is not the only thing that will kill the effect... it's anything that unbalances the fields generated. The non radiating antennas are the same -- even although they do not radiate transverse signals they do radiate something -- and their delicate balance can be easily peturbed -- even by dielectrics close by.

The overall DC bias field in this case is simply to provide a static sielded environment. Electrostatic sielding is important here as well -- the same wires that provide the  steady magnetic environment also provide a steady potential environment.


Another thing... the interaction of the capacitance in oscilloscope probes with a resonant coil driven by high impedance (100K say) will result in a waveform that has a DC offset equal to the DC offset of the driving waveform. If you probe the environment around the resonating coil you will see that this static offset is not present -- it's a consequency of the oscilloscope capacitivly coupling the coil to ground. Now you can reverse this principal and bias your coils up to whatever potential you like and then easily apply a waveform on top of that via any number of methods (resistive, capacitive or inductive).


If you really want higher voltage square waves then just jack up the supply voltage to you Mosfets -- it really isn't hard. Iv'e done this for 500V+ supplies. The simplest supplies are simple voltage multipliers driven from main voltage. For saftey you would use a isolation transformer -- a pair or low voltage transformers back to back will work perfectly well for this.


Finally -- spherics mentioned ior wire delay loops giving micro seconds of delay... in my experience smal magnetic delay line loops give much shorter delays... which would be in keeping with other simillar device reports.

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« Reply #281 on: March 29, 2008, 07:09:49 AM »
     It is important to note that Spherics design does not use the magnetic delay coils.   As he noted it is going to be frustrating to get the kick coils timed so that a comp field is generated then when you get them around the collector windings and inside the control windings have the effect go away and have to retime.
     I do believe that in his design it is important to use bifilar wire when forming the 4 coils.  These coils then have the capacitance built into them for the needed resonance.  Any eddy currents will be captured by the parallel conductor.
    I question if there is a specific rotation of the phased pulses about the tetrehedral generator.  The orientation to the Earth energy fields and manmade fields was already noted in this thread. 
    Thankyou Acer for your compilation.   I also find the crop circle analogy in this thread quite interesting.  Three outer circles: expansion/ the plain sphere-  compression/  the phi spiral-  spin/  the pinwheel.   The three components needed for spherical resonant structures like the proton.  Then the captured field within the pyramid with what appears as scalar waves radiating outward from the whole structure.  The farmer who did this to his well maintained fields sure knew his physics. 
 

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« Reply #282 on: March 29, 2008, 08:39:01 AM »
It's laughable that any kind of wire can give microseconds of delay. EM field changes propagate at the speed of light. The only thing the iron wire coil can do is probably a higher self-inductance that basically works as a low-pass filter, probably with resonance. The only thing you are doing with cutting this iron wire is changing both the resonance (toward lower values I think) and frequency (toward higher values).

Of course, where resonance and low-passing happens, phase shifting also happens which can be also called time-shifting. However, this shift happens on some range of frequencies only.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2008, 02:55:13 PM by aleks »

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« Reply #283 on: March 29, 2008, 03:27:16 PM »
I fired-up my CAD program this morning in an attempt to 'calculate' the 'vertical rise angle' of the the three base-coils.

Projection angles from the top view are simple: 120 degrees; three points of an equilateral triangle pointed towards the centroid of this base triangle.  We can imagine arranging these three base-coils on a horizontal plane 'base board' in this 'three spoke' configuration as a starting point.

We can then angle each base-coil upwards to some number of degrees so that each base-coil now points towards the centroid of the tetrahedron.  Given enough time, I am sure that I could calculate this angle the old-fashioned way by using 3D trigonometry methods.  But since I plan to use CAD to design my coil support structure, I decided to cut to the chase and just measure my angles directly from a basic CAD framework.

I should be confident that my result of 19.471 degrees is accurate, but I have not been batting a thousand lately as evidenced by my editing of my last couple of posts here.  :-[

Has anyone else calculated this 'rise angle' of the three base-coils and have you obtained the same result?
Regarding this image posted earlier:
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4297.0;attach=20297;image)

The adjacent angle is: 180 - 109.5 = 70.5
The triangular complement is: 90 - 70.5 = 19.5, which is what I found.  :)

Regarding the image below: Yellow lines are the six edges of the tetrahedron.  Pink lines are on each triangular face, bisect each angle, and meet at the centroid of each face.  Green lines are inside the tetrahedron and connect each corner to the opposing triangular centroid, all crossing at the tetrahedron centroid.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2008, 04:20:20 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #284 on: March 29, 2008, 03:45:08 PM »
Hi Rosphere,
...
@Jdo300,

I will build the coil assembly if you make the 300V circuit.  (Nothing fancy now.)  ;)
...
so Jdo300 agreed to the deal?
That would be tremendous.
I wish you two the very best.

However, I dont' t understand why you have to calculate the "rise angle"

I think spherics has stated the numerical value of that angle:

... and the other 3 coils (X,Y,Z) will be pointing to wards the center BUT note the three coils will not be in a horizontal plane; they will be pointing 30 degrees upwards

Why would you think that 30? is not the correct and applicable value for the angle between the horizontal plane and the axis of coils X, Y, Z?

PS: I have once built a pyramid and I know that this 3D geometrical problems can be very daunting.