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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 307465 times)

Offline aleks

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #240 on: March 27, 2008, 07:32:39 PM »
Energy conversion is different when you consider speed. 12 volts at 100 amps is slow and the energy can not dissipate quickly enough to kill you by discharge. But, it is a lot of energy especially if converted to speed. Reduce that 100 amps to 100 mA but increase the voltage (speed) to 100,000 volts and you can electrocute someone!
"My unit operates on these principles"!!!!!.
Think about all those frequencies traveling inside the collector coil and how they interact.....
Sincerely,
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Sorry, but you can of course kill someone with 12 volts at 100 amps. To compare correctly, you should have increased volts to 12000V at 100mA. This is also dangerous.
Your examples are not convincing, they are not physical. If you fire a cannot in a flight, the cannon will stop and the energy will not be gained twofold as you suggest (action-reaction). Also, there are no 'explosions' happen on electron level to justify your speculations. Electron carries his static electrostatic field and a bit of kinetic energy. Basically only its kinetic energy varies, which is also propagated by means of EM waves: that is the only way for electrons to transfer their energy at light speeds given their own speed is low.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #241 on: March 27, 2008, 07:40:38 PM »

Your examples are not convincing


Why are you posting in the TPU area?
This was not an example.....
I bet you didn't even read it and i bet you don't even know where it comes from...

People like you will never understand.

M.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #242 on: March 27, 2008, 07:41:02 PM »
Hi Grumpy, 

depending on what you have or want, you can either use the square wave to work a boost coverter, 

OR

if you need nice clean sinusoidal waves, filter the squarewave and use a transformer to magnify the voltage(or just feed it into a transformer if the shape is not that important)  Make sure there is not DC component to the square wave (if there is place a decoupling cap before it)

EM

P.S.  Ok , I just saw your post right above, so you just want to boost the voltage of a square wave period.   Then use the bottom circuit.  Another possibility is obvioulsy resonance of the transformer itself, (primary winding and capacitor).  If frequency is high,  then you might want to consider a type of TESLA coil  :)

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #242 on: March 27, 2008, 07:41:02 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #243 on: March 27, 2008, 07:49:28 PM »
Your examples are not convincing

Why are you posting in the TPU area?
This was not an example.....
I bet you didn't even read it and i bet you don't even know where it comes from...

People like you will never understand.
No reason to go personal. I'm here to get ideas and share ideas. Beside that 'frequencies in coils' have nothing to do with voltages and amperages. I personally cannot justify the need of differentiation between Volts and Amps beside obvious schematic building tasks, where they solve the problem of energy in - energy out coordination. Instead of writing R=V/I you could write R=Eout/Ein.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #244 on: March 27, 2008, 07:50:26 PM »
No, I need to maintain the square shape - undistorted preferably - and without some huge delay.

So, a 20v square goes in and a 300v square (or higher - 500v would be nice) comes out.

I found this (I believe it could be adapted for this purpose):

Like I said, I'm looking for something we can post here that everyone can use - so has to be simple and everything readily available.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #244 on: March 27, 2008, 07:50:26 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #245 on: March 27, 2008, 07:58:46 PM »
spherics, you're backing yourself into a corner.   Now your talking about actual rotors and Aspen, and you're also saying the toroidal coil is placed farther out.   

Ok,   let's look at that,   the magnetic field vectors cut right across the x-secion of the toroid (a circle), and if you assume the field "rotates" about the z-axis,  you have a velocity in the PHI direction  (circumferentialy)   

So which way is the induced voltage from such a scenario?    Well,  v x B gives you a vector in the THETA direction, or along a line,in the vertical plane, connecting the top and side coil, just about.   So you see, you don't get charges forced along the PHI direction, which is what's needed.   If you want to induce voltage and current with this "rotation"  then you need a different configuration for a "capturing" coil, not a toroid per say,  can you figure out how?

EM

P.S.  Grumpy, if you go up in voltage but keep the waveform the same, this means you need a broadband voltage amplifyer (since the square wave has lots of harmonics)   You want power as well, correct?  because my circuit will not add power, it just makes the voltage high.  If you do want power, then a push-pull amplifier (operating at 300V) will do the trick.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2008, 05:19:30 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #246 on: March 27, 2008, 08:00:36 PM »
Your examples are not convincing

Why are you posting in the TPU area?
This was not an example.....
I bet you didn't even read it and i bet you don't even know where it comes from...

People like you will never understand.
No reason to go personal. I'm here to get ideas and share ideas. Beside that 'frequencies in coils' have nothing to do with voltages and amperages. I personally cannot justify the need of differentiation between Volts and Amps beside obvious schematic building tasks, where they solve the problem of energy in - energy out coordination. Instead of writing R=V/I you could write R=Eout/Ein.

Hey you tell me to give you some good arguments.
Then you tell me the examples are not not convincing.
Yet they came from the man who did it..
This makes me think that you think you know better then Steven and this i cannot believe.
I am sorry.
I wish people would read the literature.
Then they would just know why it is important in stead of just BLAH BLAH ing.

M.


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #247 on: March 27, 2008, 08:06:07 PM »
This ship is sinkin' fast...

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #248 on: March 27, 2008, 08:07:36 PM »
at a certain point in the video you can hear the ocscillator give its tell tail wistle as its charging up...its very faint and obscured by background noise, you can hear around 4-5 separate charging wistle's from the oscillator!, ive known this for a long while and didnt think it was anything new untill i read spherics post about the caps being charged by an ocsillator, if this is of any use i can put you on to the exact point this happens in the video, if its not important no worrys just trying to help you guys along  :)

cheers

Chad.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #248 on: March 27, 2008, 08:07:36 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #249 on: March 27, 2008, 08:12:44 PM »
So no one thinks the 79 cent camera flash boards will do the job??????????????????????????????????????????

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #250 on: March 27, 2008, 08:22:46 PM »
Grumpy, why do you want to use square wave form?
These are the most rich in harmonic content.
And that was not good for the music.
If you own a spectrum analyzer you should fire it up with a square and you will imediatly see what i mean.
Actually it is quite difficult to show one frequency without harmonics only on these things.
I have tried it many times so far.
The only way seems to be to cancel out the harmonics by back feeding them superposed in reverse on top of them.
Well that's a bit hard to explain i guess...

M.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #251 on: March 27, 2008, 08:23:33 PM »
This makes me think that you think you know better then Steven and this i cannot believe.
I am sorry.
I wish people would read the literature.
Then they would just know why it is important in stead of just BLAH BLAH ing.
Well I thought these were your examples not Steven's. I do not want to argue with a person not involved in the discussion.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #252 on: March 27, 2008, 08:27:13 PM »
This makes me think that you think you know better then Steven and this i cannot believe.
I am sorry.
I wish people would read the literature.
Then they would just know why it is important in stead of just BLAH BLAH ing.
Well I thought these were your examples not Steven's. I do not want to argue with a person not involved in the discussion.

Now that is exactly what i mean...
If you had read the literature you would have known these were Stevens words.
And this topic is about his device.
I do not want to argue with a person who doesn't know what the inventor said....
In fact i only want to talk to people who know what was said about the device, but this seems to be impossible.

M.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #253 on: March 27, 2008, 08:27:27 PM »
Grumpy, why do you want to use square wave form?
These are the most rich in harmonic content.
Sawtooth is richer, though its RMS is lower than that of square wave given same peak-to-peak voltage difference.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #254 on: March 27, 2008, 08:34:41 PM »
square wave - like "Sponge Bob Square Pants"

I want to amplify the voltage of a square wave by a factor of 15 and up to about 10 MHz.

Why square?   I need a sudden rise, an adjustable holding period, and then a sudden collapse.

 

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