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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 307749 times)

Offline Rosphere

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #180 on: March 26, 2008, 05:32:12 PM »
The corkscrewing path of the ether around the toroid is now in line with the windings.

@spherics,

So, the direction of the toroid windings is critical.

What about the pitch; how close does the winding angle, (based on winding pitch,) need to be in relation to the angle of the corkscrew?

Is the winding pitch just an efficiency issue; in that, as long as the winding direction is correct, changes in pitch will only change the efficiency of the energy collected?

Also, Tao's images show a toroid with a round profile.  Your tetrahedron image shows a toroid with a square profile.  I am aware that your image was conceptual, based on my misguided effort to measure it for build proportions, and that you agree with Tao's images.  However, which toroidal profile is more efficient, round or square?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #181 on: March 26, 2008, 05:41:07 PM »
@poynt99 & @EMdevices: I wholeheartedly agree - let's replicate SM's "flawed" device, then we can all figure out how to fix it.

@nickle989: You managed to blow up your TPU replica? That's fantastic! I (and the group) would be very interested in knowing the details of your setup. Failures are at least as important as successes when exploring new technology like this. Please post as many details as you have regarding components, winding, pulse frequencies/duration, etc. It would provide a huge shortcut to achieve a design we can all replicate then begin debugging.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #182 on: March 26, 2008, 05:42:02 PM »
Does anyone recognize the snippet below? I found it at the top of a page I cut/pasted and printed from a Hendershot article last week, I'm interested in finding the full article in context. Thanks.

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There is a problem with an over simplistic suggestion though and that is someone by now would have stumbled on the same effects for a tpu IF it was a case of a coil and cap. There appears merit to me in the Nuclear Resonance suggested by Spherics. This will prevent accidentally stumbling on the right coil cap combination. Anyway to resume the Hendershot concept .............

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #182 on: March 26, 2008, 05:42:02 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #183 on: March 26, 2008, 06:19:04 PM »
Ok Spherics, let me comment on your comments:

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You need to wrap your head around some of concepts espoused by Harold Aspden before commenting on whether the toroid is correctly placed or of the correct structure.


If it's Harold Aspden that you're relying on he's probably wrong as well (when it comes to this configuration of how the TPU is placed)

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The ether keeps spinning for a considerable amount of time after the pulses are stopped.


It is not the "ether" that spins, which would imply that empty space can do that.  What is observed as spinning after a sharp pulse, is the gyration of the atomic nuclei.   They make magnetometers based on this principle and usualy fill them with a liquid (like alcohol, water works as well)

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If you would care to consider the angle in 3D where the magnetic fields would oppose you would observe that it forms at an angle. Transposed into a rotation this forms a funnel of compression.


That's correct see the drawing below.

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With a little bit more thought you may even consider the placement of the magnetic void and again see that this void would transpose on rotation to form a toroid void.


That's correct, and...?

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The persistence of the ether waves long after the magnetic field, allows discrete time separated pulses to merge in their affect on the ether. This void combined with the rotating pulses cause the ether to spiral.

why do you think it spirals and not simply rotates?

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The spiraling ether interacts with the metal of the copper toroid along with the vertical direction pulse from the top coil. This causes the ether to not only spiral round in a circle as viewed from above but also to corkscrew along the path of the toroid windings.

I don't buy it !  Corkscrew along the path of the toroid windings?    yeaahhh.....

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The corkscrewing path of the ether around the toroid is now in line with the windings. This creates a longitudinal wave along the copper creating a large current effect in the toroid windings. Which is what is needed.


A lot of hand waving and assumptions to get your vectors to line up "IN LINE WITH THE WINDINGS".   Do a bit more thinking next time, magnetics don't behave like you imagine.  Draw a figure and show the vectors and how they transform if you believe in it so strongly.

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Given that the toroid is now generating a magnetic field, outside of the toroid even though you don't have a magnetic field you stil have ether waves. You'll note the 3 generating coils are symmetrically and equally affected by these ether waves such that the rotation does not become lop-sided. You'll also note the top coil above the toroid is affected equally on all sides ensuring that the pulse from the top coil that reaches each of the three coils is identical in everycase even after interacting with the etherwaves from the toroid. 


yes it's true, there's plenty of symetery here, so why don't you draw your eather waves so we can see how you image them.  Also, if they're "waves"  how about thinking about propagation delays, and the resulting phase shifts?  Your theory is too superficial, not cooked enough.

Conclusion:

Based on sphereics explantions, this is a concept of a free energy machine that has not been tested yet.
As such, there is nothing wrong with posting concepts, but implying they work is misleading. 

Judging by his description, his theory is flawed.  However,  spherics is just introducing us to this concept and belives it's related to SM and others just because of the nature of his theory.  It appears to be a fundamental theory of eather and waves and angles, so he assumes all overunity devices (including SM's) should work this way.  He posted in this thread since lots of people hang out here.

There's some merit to some of the things he said, like the spin after the pulse , which is known to be the atomic gyration due to the magnetic moments trying to realign with the bias (static) field and precessing around it, and depending on the frequency observed the magnitude of the static field can be calculated (see magnetometers)   Also, I do like the patent posted with the pulse shaping circuit, but that's as far as it goes for me.   This is by far not,   COMPLETE INFORMATION ON WORKING SM STYLE DEVICE.

EM
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 06:57:21 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #184 on: March 26, 2008, 06:57:14 PM »
It has to spiral and corkscrew - period.

Corkscrew along the path of the toroidal windings - not inside them - not around the toroidal core like the wores are - fold it again.  This corkscrewing ether has the path of a higher order supertoroid.  I say "higher" - I think it would be a third-order one - which would put the inductive potential (so to speak) in the core and create a current in the wire.  Whoa!

Stick that in your pipe, Mr. A-Field! LOL!

No comments unless you are familiar with supertoroids.  (Yes, the supertoroid structure has another name but I forget what it is at the moment.)

More than enough info here, EM, more than enough.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #184 on: March 26, 2008, 06:57:14 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #185 on: March 26, 2008, 06:57:37 PM »
    Each of the conductors in the bifialr wound coils are responding to the aetheric waves in the same intensity but at a different time.  The tuning procedure description is the most valuable information offered by Spherics.  The bifilar parallel circuit is reluctance tuned so that the greatest voltage between the two circuits manifests. This voltage corresponds to the phase displacement of the aetheric waves NOT THEIR FREQUENCY.  Their frequency could be lightyears long but they are time displaced so we can pick them up by responding to the phase displacement of multiple waves. Working on the ripple nothing to do with the entire wavevolume.

    @emdevices

    I believe this is how to hookup the oscope.   I would also hazard a guess that we don't want the other bifilar wire near the timing coil.   Another thought instead of trimming the coil would it not be easier just to put a conductor inside that is carrying a little dc current to alter the permeability of the coil instead of trimming it.  Trimming it could ger real tedious.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 07:53:19 PM by sparks »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #186 on: March 26, 2008, 07:05:53 PM »
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Stick that in your pipe, Mr. A-Field! LOL!

LOL  :D  :D

Ok guys,  I made my case.  Don't say I didn't warn you.   Every project you undertake with a certain enthusiasm will only kill that in you, when it fails, or you don't get what you expected from the "theory". 

Am I saying not to experiment with any of the concepts presented by spheriecs?  NO, not at all.    Experimentation is good and a perfect way to learn, but realize what it is and what your doing.

My frustration is with the misleading nature of presenting this info.   Just state if you have a theory, if you've built it, and if it works, or if you've heard others built it and it worked, state the results clearly, document,  etc... etc...   Then I can do my own thinking, if I have the facts straight.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #187 on: March 26, 2008, 07:15:41 PM »
@EM

I agree with you 95% of the time, but there are a few things here I think are important to note...

Although people say "ether" they probably do not mean the 18th century 'material ether'.   It's probably closer in terms to "magnetic ether", "vacuum ether" , "wave ether", etc.  That is, it operates with or without the presence of mass.   Unfortunately we have a language problem because we are dealing with many theories and many phenomenon.

I also think the thread was mislabeled.   But I think the information from spherics is useful.   I agree I would prefer if it was backed up with vector geometry and mathematics rather than assumptions.   I also think it's possible that these other theories may actually refer to the same underlying transformations.





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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #188 on: March 26, 2008, 07:17:25 PM »

I would be pleased if you accepted to be my public and/or private mentor in my pursuit of knowledge.

Respectfully, Earl

I now humbly make this same request.

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@EM and everyone else in denial: you do not yet see.

(I'm sure there is a cool Latin phrase for that).

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #189 on: March 26, 2008, 07:25:37 PM »
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Stick that in your pipe, Mr. A-Field! LOL!

LOL  :D  :D

Ok guys,  I made my case.  Don't say I didn't warn you.   Every project you undertake with a certain enthusiasm will only kill that in you, when it fails, or you don't get what you expected from the "theory". 

Am I saying not to experiment with any of the concepts presented by spheriecs?  NO, not at all.    Experimentation is good and a perfect way to learn, but realize what it is and what your doing.

My frustration is with the misleading nature of presenting this info.   Just state if you have a theory, if you've built it, and if it works, or if you've heard others built it and it worked, etc... etc...   I can do my own thinking then if I have the facts straight.

EM

I've been lurking in this group for a bit and I just had come forward because I had such a good laugh, so I thought I would share it. I am surprised no one called bunk on spherics' claim on the implosion device in his first post in this group. That just happens to have been my field in a past life. Oh my goodness, that was a really fun read. If countries could do the same trick without heavy metals, then Iran would already be there. I see he (or someone) has removed the information on the implosion device now, as it should be, because it easily discredited the rest of his theory. I am in total agreement with EMdevices.

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« Reply #190 on: March 26, 2008, 07:31:10 PM »



Welcome mudwump, thanks for coming out :)

Grumpy, I will believe the light emanating from your lit light bulbs, until then I guess I don't "see" it.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2008, 03:06:54 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #191 on: March 26, 2008, 07:31:23 PM »
I find the information presented very interesting.  But I could not help but laugh at the idea that you can make a nuclear weapon with some coils, with no explosives and no fissionable material!

Why is that people who come forward with ideas/plans for something, it always comes with some really crazy side about MIB, UFOs, or something else!


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #192 on: March 26, 2008, 07:36:19 PM »
@all

There is too much conventional thinking going on, if conventional thinking worked we would all be using free energy devices now. Anyone (me included) can come up with a 100 theories, but unless we have a mind like Tesla (and I do not) then I cannot build working machines in my head, so the only way to verify anything is to build it. A 100 machines may be built on false ideas, but it only takes one to work! Conventional theory is flawed so much I would not trust any idea without proving it myself first. Build no matter how crazy something seems and oneday you will hit the jackpot!

Its like looking for a lost sock, you always find it in that place where you didn't look because you thought you knew better! Assumptions are the root of all failure... live by them die by them...

@Grumpy

Right on! It is nice to see this wagon back on track. Doubters have their place, but nothing ventured nothing gained.

@Spoodily

All the links you made are valid and relevant, I believe an appreciation of the archetypes, particularly those represented in the crop circles are more important than most realise, as time goes on I truly believe more people will come to understand their subtle relevance. I like your link to metatrons cube, it is after all the primary archetype.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #193 on: March 26, 2008, 07:44:18 PM »
Why is that people who come forward with ideas/plans for something, it always comes with some really crazy side about MIB, UFOs, or something else!

It doesn't, your ideology makes you interpret it as crazy.  It's just technology that you are currently overwhelmed by so you discredit it through ad hominim rather than ackowledge your own intellectual inferiority in trying to understand it.

For anything to work, you must accept that it will.

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« Reply #194 on: March 26, 2008, 07:48:00 PM »
Yea thanks for that.  I have been researching and building all sort of crazy shit for over 10 years and spent thousands of pounds doing so.  I would like to think I have a fairly open mind.  However as you say, perhaps I am intellectually inferior and should give up now leaving it all to you.

I take it you are not so inferior and believe that you can make a nuclear weapon with just some coils do you?


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