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sparks

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2008, 07:05:20 PM »
     @spherics

  Welcome back!  Please bare with me I'm a little slow.  Before we coil the wire and complicate things in my mind we take a lamp cord and on one end tie the two ends together.  Then on one of the wires we cut off some of the copper and replace it with a length of iron wire (I would guess aluminum wire would be better)  to change the reluctance of that circuit. (With also an adjustment of the capacitance of that portion of the circuit?).  Then we pulse the parallel conductors with a linear ramp dc pulse.

    The aether then observes two edpulses that are timed by the reluctance of the iron/aluminum antennae?
And it's reaction would be?    Thankyou!

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2008, 07:08:02 PM »
spherics,  it sounds like you're somebody who worked with SM or knew a bit more about how he invented or discovered principles that led to his TPU technology.   So can you draw a diagram of the circuit you describe in this passage?

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As part of experiments, associated with what would become his 3D spacial control patents, he was using these delay elements with custom made bifilar wound voice coils (i.e. air coils) and unexpectedly detected an anomolous signal on his spectrum analyser.

Steven Mark created his own delay elements using iron wire after several years of intermittent experimentation. The technique was to carefully wrap a bifilar air-coil using copper wire. The longer the length of copper the better but using identical lengths. The two coils were connected to the SAME pulse waveforms in parallel so that the magnetic field is additive NOT cancelling. The delay element was added in series to only one of the coils that made up the bifilar coil. The delay coil was made from insulated iron wire wound into an air coil. An oscilloscope was connected to both COPPER coils. The setup would be pulsed with a dc offset square wave (i.e. 0 to 20V not -10 to 10V) at the resonant frequency of the bifilar coils. The tuning consisted of cutting the iron wire down in length until an unexpected pulse/signal appeared. This pulse is the kick. I will refer to these tuned bifilar coils as kick coils

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EM

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #107 on: March 24, 2008, 07:37:43 PM »
Spherics,

I am trying to understand and believe.

Two inconsistencies are bothering me though:

1. none of SM's devices appear to have coils oriented as you have portrayed. There is no coil in the center other than the small toroid(s) in some cases, and unless all the control coils were very short, stubby, and pointed inward/upward, they would not concentrate a N-pole towards the center. It looks more like the coils are wound "around" the ring.

2. SM mentioned specifically 3 frequencies. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd harmonics.

Can you address these questions?

Appreciated.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2008, 07:50:47 PM »

Why are some people trying to drive people like Spherics away? These are the tactics of people who are 'planted' on forums to disrupt and prevent development. I'm not accusing, I just don't see how these actions are productive. I for one think his theories are worth investigation. (And that no theories are worth ridicule.)

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2008, 07:54:00 PM »
No need to get angry, Grumpy.  Why does everyone need pages of explanation and proof before they try something?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2008, 08:07:40 PM »
   
     @spherics

  Welcome back!  Please bare with me I'm a little slow.  Before we coil the wire and complicate things in my mind we take a lamp cord and on one end tie the two ends together.  Then on one of the wires we cut off some of the copper and replace it with a length of iron wire (I would guess aluminum wire would be better)  to change the reluctance of that circuit. (With also an adjustment of the capacitance of that portion of the circuit?).  Then we pulse the parallel conductors with a linear ramp dc pulse.

    The aether then observes two edpulses that are timed by the reluctance of the iron/aluminum antennae?
And it's reaction would be?    Thankyou!

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2008, 08:10:28 PM »
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Why does everyone need pages of explanation and proof before they try something?

This is a fundamental question, not just here. but in general life.

Pondering it for some time will reveal wisdom.  I've learned a few things on this forum, and perhaps even some wisdom, as in why should I listen to somebody and spend my time and money?  As in what is the motivation behind a post? etc.. etc...

This is the road of experience, and everyone will get on it at different points and learn differnet things, some will succeed others will not.   

EM

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2008, 08:45:17 PM »

Why are some people trying to drive people like Spherics away? These are the tactics of people who are 'planted' on forums to disrupt and prevent development. I'm not accusing, I just don't see how these actions are productive. I for one think his theories are worth investigation. (And that no theories are worth ridicule.)

Because they know better! The proof is the variety of OU devices they have demonstrated by their presence here.

AM

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2008, 09:00:56 PM »
It appears I have been too brief in my presentation. I truly believed that there would be a group here who would be able to make the leap between the Steven Mark devices you are familiar with and the design that I showed.

@Spherics

I am glad that you have returned since I need your help.

After listening to Jack's interview and him saying that SM never solved the over-heating problem, I realized that the heating problem is inherent in every design that pushes or pulls electrons longitudinally in conductors.  I therefore decided to pursue an OU project that I started, but put on small flame because of the TPU.  I decided to stop my SM-TPU research and concentrate on this other project because I feel that billions of people heating up the planet with OU devices is not in the interest of the human race.  In fact, it could cause their extinction from heat death.

My big question is whether in Spheric's TPU there is unavoidable heat generated in the collector coil(s) ?

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The delay element was added in series to only one of the coils that made up the bifilar coil.

Your comment about a small excitation delay into one winding of a bifilar coil is known and appreciated by only a handful of people on the entire planet.  It sent shivers up and down my spine.  It shows me that you have advanced knowledge.

I obtained my knowledge of this from an inventor outside USA.  I wonder if you know which country?  It can not be excluded that this knowledge was found independently by multiple inventors around the globe roughly at the same time.  However, his invention is somewhat (even much) different than SM'sTPU or Spheric's TPU, in spite of the fact of using a small time delay between each bifilar winding.  It was not necessary for him to use any iron wire to achieve the delay.
EDIT:  his invention remained cold with less than 1 Watt for the electronics and 10 to 20 kW output power.

I would be pleased if you accepted to be my public and/or private mentor in my pursuit of knowledge.

Respectfully, Earl
« Last Edit: March 24, 2008, 09:23:52 PM by Earl »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2008, 10:37:45 PM »
Hello Spherics,

I just want to say one thing to you and everyone else on this forum...

I have been on these threads ever since the original "Master of Magnets" posts started flooding the forums. I have seen lots and lots of comments, theories, and rhetoric from people of all sorts.... One thing everyone here needs to know is that you have to get a feel for what is the truth and what is just a bunch of mess. The only way to know this is through research and experimentation.

Now, based on what I think I know about the TPU and the underlying effects that could be driving it, I 100% agree with what Spherics is saying. Spherics, thank you for taking the time to contribute your insights here.

I definitely second Earl on the public or private mentoring offer. The things you spoke about really resonated with what I understand and I would love to learn more about this COMP field that you were talking about.

Steven talked about hooking two transformers slightly out of phase with each other or in reverse.... so the example you gave us with the two slightly out of phase signals in the bifilar windings really fits the bill in my opinion, among many others.

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #115 on: March 25, 2008, 03:23:42 AM »
@spherics,

I've read a lot of back and forth here about what is and what is not overunity.

In a world that excludes the ether, these coils are overunity. If the world took into account the ether, then the coils would not be thought of as overunity.

This is the same conclusion that I had reached.  Thank you for wording it so well.
@Jdo300,

I will build the coil assembly if you make the 300V circuit.  (Nothing fancy now.)  ;)



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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #116 on: March 25, 2008, 05:13:32 AM »
You are all already compressing and decompressing the aether all the time - you just don't know it.

For the record, I never said sperics was wrong - just challenged him to prove it.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 03:00:40 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #117 on: March 25, 2008, 05:50:55 AM »
@All,

I have been lurking for a few months now, waiting for some fresh information to resume testing with.  I will say that portions of what Spherics has written seem promising, and that I just might build and test the basic ideas.

Reading the description of the proposed device brought this back to memory from the long-dead Escribe list (I think Tim Vaguahan wrote this):
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When I was still in high school, I met an engineer who worked for a
contractor based at the NASA Ames Research.   He told me of just an
experiment which resulted in apparent "antigravity" effects.   He built a
cylindrical faraday chamber made out of screen within which was placed 3
vertically oriented dipoles positioned at the vertices of a triangle.  He
phased the 28 megahertz output of a Heathkit DX-100 (a tube Ham radio
transmitter ) so the dipoles produced what he thought would be a electric
field that rotated faster than the speed of light.   The proper phasing
was produced by using different lengths of coax cable to feed each of the
dipoles.  A full sized dipole at 28 Mhz (10 meter amateur band) is 16.7
feet longs.  So he may have used shortened dipoles with coils.
He told me, very matter of factly, that small objects placed within the
chamber would levitate and float around.  They would also, not
surprisingly, get hot, especially things like rubber erasers.
I have lost contact with the engineer, but reading the above brought this
back to my memory.

Hmmm...shortened dipoles with coils.  Add the cylindrical screen (which will end up pulsing a magnetic field at 3x F1 due to induced RF currents) and the topology is quite similar.  Also note the high voltages from a tube-type transmitter...are square waves really required, I wonder?  (They certainly are easier to produce with modern equipment)

Eldarion

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #118 on: March 25, 2008, 06:53:28 AM »
......
For the record, I never said sperics was wrong - just challenged him to prove it.

@Grumpy.

The gentleman does not owe you anything and does not need to prove anything to you! Can you not understand?
In a couple of posts, he has shown himself infinitely more intelligent than what your can ever achieve.

Let's just say, people here have more reasons to believe what he writes is superior to your knowledge base.. I'll just leave it at that. Thank you.

cheers
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #119 on: March 25, 2008, 07:39:43 AM »
Hello spherics,

I want to thank you for coming back here and shedding some more light onto the background of SM?s circular design and also on the tetrahedral design you yourself presented.

I personally am wishing, that you continue to share as much concrete technical details for a  tetrahedral setup as possible.

We now know the necessary amplitude of the excitation signals should be 300V (ground potential to max. potential,  peak to peak)
If there is anything you can say about sensible wire sizes and coil length etc. please give us as much additional info as you can.

Thanks again
« Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 02:05:50 PM by Gustav22 »