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Offline konduct

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2008, 10:42:35 PM »
Does anyone have any feedback about using a synthesizer as a signal generator?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2008, 10:47:27 PM »
i wonder who this guy is? Sounds like the real TPU inventor:) Thats 2 people in 24 hours that has appeared on the scene and said that SM was not the inventor and/or had little understanding of how the TPU really worked while offering fresh information on how and why it can work.  You can see that it was no wonder that anyone winding coils on the kitchen table would NEVER get a working TPU without access to lab conditions and a very deep theoretically understanding.

Don't forget SM actually said himself he had ONE tpu that worked and spent months and hundreds of man hours replicating the device and throw out hundreds of useless coils.  It actually makes far more sense he was trying to copy the first tpu without messing up the working original as it was NOT his to start with. Without the theoretical fundamentals it makes replication of a tpu so much harder even if it was placed in your hands and you tried to copy it.   It opens more questions to be answered one day like if its not SM's who's was it and how did SM get it? Anway the saga continues..............

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2008, 11:19:45 PM »

It takes more than eloquent prose to claim you have the knowledge or how something operates.

If spherics has this knowledge, then I "beseech" him to prove it or shut up like everyone else.  See, anyone can use fancy words.

Everything makes sense when you don't know how it works.   You read a few things that are interesting, your imagination fills in the rest.

Like a said before: Prove it!

Not going to get into squabbles with you. Fact is after all your years of searching and reading and trying, you still have not done anything remotely close to achieving OU. Have you? Then maybe, loosen up and pay some attention to some 'fancy' words. Maybe the fancy words will save you from another umpteen years of searching in the wrong direction?

cheers
chrisC

OU is a figure of speech and energy is where you find it - everywhere.  Look at all the energy we waste everday and rather than expend a little effort to reduce this waste, we would rather stay a copper-top in wonderland where our hands are never dirty and our ideas are never wrong - just unproven. Stephan has found the proverbial fountain in the overactive imaginations of dreamers that do nothing more than ply their endless ramblings on this forum - conjuring theory after theory of unproven eloquent prose and never accomplishing anything more than conquering the boredom of the day.

What have you done, Chris?  That's right - not a damn thing.  As for achieving OU, I might have been close once, but then so have many others.

Spherics has every right to just say something and not 'prove it.'

It is up to us, those who really want a working FE device, to decided for OURSELVES if we want to attempt Spherics's setup. He doesn't have to prove it, since he is not going to be interacting with us anymore.

Its a bit of a personal journey, if we are walking along a path and see some bread crumbs that someone else left (which potentially lead to our goal), we can choose to follow them or we can choose to ignore them thinking that they were put there to sidetrack us. It is a personal decision.

So, obviously Spherics won't be back, so I think its futile to argue about 'proving it', because he is OBVIOUSLY NOT going to come back and prove anything.

So, you have to decide for yourselves, leave Spherics's theory (bread crumbs) alone, or follow them to wherever they might take you (perhaps the goal you seek). And even if you end up being sidetracked, what is the REAL loss?

Thats all I have to say on that...

No offense to anyone!

Tao - more eloquent prose and lofty dreams of walking a path with no end only to find that the path is a ring - pun intended - like some sort of pulp fiction religious cult.  No wonder Golem was insane over the ring...

The words "Prove it." are a challenge to Spherics.  He can ignor it or accept it.

I'm sure he would love to demonstrate a working device but for some reason, perhaps fear, or  other emotional turmoil he just can't bring himself to do that.  So, instead, he fires his shotgun explanation of the TPU into the night and runs away laughing histerically - dining on the chaos and emotional waste.


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Offline konduct

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2008, 11:23:12 PM »
Does anyone have any feedback about using a synthesizer as a signal generator?

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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2008, 11:28:21 PM »
I see you guys have your own version of Omnibus over here.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2008, 11:30:59 PM »
@Konduct,
Not fast enough, you need something in the MHz range.  Try a DDS 20 from ELV in Germany.
http://www.elv.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=74&detail=10&detail2=6325
I have built about 9 of these, LCD display is a bit twitchy but it works.

@All
I knew I had come across a topic on the same principle information about this before.
Dr Mark Snoswell posted this quite a while ago, July 2007, on the topic of Spinor Resonance:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2764.msg40372.html#msg40372

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2764.0;attach=10633;image)

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2008, 11:42:09 PM »
Does anyone have any feedback about using a synthesizer as a signal generator?

Sorry Konduct... was going to give you an answer earlier but got carried away.
Using a synthesizer is probably not the way to go. Those things don't have the frequency range other than audible audio (20Hz to 20Khz?) and they aren't designed to phase shift or have the correct impedance matching.

You're better off using a quality signal generators of the type you can specify the types of output waveform, rise/fall times and phase relationship. Hope that helps. Search the forum for waveform or signal generators, either commercially available or in kit form.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2008, 11:47:44 PM »
I got a lot to respect about the bombshell Spere jut posted here!

Circuitry :
Make a decoded digital count to 3 and reset counter w/CMOS or equl.
Phase the circuit dimensionaly too.

Hope we are all here tomorrow. ;D
Please use small carbon resistors that will open-up if things go ballistic!

If someone make a scene(is not cool),  we all will be very sorry for everyone.

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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2008, 11:47:53 PM »
Wasn't yelling at you specifically Chris. =) My hardware synth will go up to at least 276,480Hz (C 13 on a piano keyboard where A4 is tuned to 432Hz) which is .276...MHz I think.  I am checking out what my computer is capable of...I may have to utilize some lower harmonies to try it out. I do have pretty complete control over phasing...phasing is a commonly used "effect" in music production.  And it has very specific programming parameters on my synth.  I know the ranges are only supposed to be audible but this thing has capabilities outside of the audible range...at least ten times. Not sure what impedance matching would mean. It's no toy at a cost of $2700.


Correction...with a pitch / frequency modulator, my synth will go up to 1,105,920 Hz  or  1.1 Mhz. My monitor speakers did not like this note at all btw.  What frequencies are you guys thinking need to be used.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2008, 12:00:12 AM »
Im surprised no one has asked or reposted the NMR of iron. I haven't checked elsewhere no doubt others have something different.

has symbol 57Fe   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has natural abundance 2.2   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has NMR frequency 3.231 MHz where 1H = 100 MHz; 2.3488 T   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has magnetogyric ratio 0.8661 ? 107 rad T-1 s-1   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has NMR receptivity 4.2 ? 10-3 where 13C = 1.00   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has relative NMR sensitivity 3.37 ? 10-5 where 1H = 1.00   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has nuclear magnetic moment μ = +0.09062294 nuclear magnetons with diamagnetic correction   has source: Fuller, G.H. 1976, <i>Journal of Physical Chemistry Reference Data</i> <b>5</b> 835 'Nuclear Spins and Moments', 2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has nuclear spin I = 1/2- h/2Ï€   has source: Fuller, G.H. 1976, <i>Journal of Physical Chemistry Reference Data</i> <b>5</b> 835 'Nuclear Spins and Moments', 2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has number of nucleons 57   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has number of neutrons 31   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has atomic mass 56.935395   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has uses isotopically enriched samples available for experimental purposes   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has uses Nuclear Magnetic Resonance

So there you have it as far as i know the answer is iron NMR frequency 3.231 MHz and we are told its a harmonic of this. 2dn 3rd 5th 7th i dunno but if you want stability you start high and divide down not low and try to go up. Also the further you go from the wanted harmonic the weaker the signal. However it does appear that banging pulses is now the theme. Well that taken me back i thought this was a sine wave interactive process on the input. Where does the 5kz come from this is vital? Always has been it must come from this clock somewhere as its a constant in all the TPU's regardless of size. Likewise we know now the NMR is a constant.

Coils XYZ are pulsed at frequency F1 with a phase of 120 degrees between each coil.
Coil A is fed a frequency of 3 x F1 and has a phase of 0 with respect to the other coils.

3.231 Mhz * 3 = 9.693 Mhz  Mmm not going to be easy getting power fets to work up here too well. Maybe it all works on divide by 10.

323.1 Khz and 969.3 Khz that might do it then you can hear the lower harmonics of these running like in the videos. I think the 10th harmonic is about as low as it will ever work and thats pushing it but for the VN mosfets of the 80's this was about the limits.
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« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2008, 12:09:14 AM »
Hello

I think this online book by David Wilcock is particularly relevant:
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=20&Itemid=36

Chapters 1-3 cover torsion fields discussed in this post.

I am going to pick up some styrofoam spheres to do some testing. I will post my progress.

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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2008, 12:18:45 AM »
@Spheric

Enjoyed reading your "newbie" post that just fell from the trees, although my feeling is that you are anything but a newbie.  Whether informant or disinformant, time will tell.  The only thing in your post that really negatively disturbed me is your claim that the spherical device had coaxial cable to energize coils, instead of simultaneously energizing detonators to compress a hollow sphere into a dense ball.  Since you are obviously intelligent, this misrepresentation casts a question mark over your intentions.

@All

After reading Spheric's post, I did some investigation about NMR and found out some interesting things.
I discovered some NMR frequencies, although remember these frequencies are only valid for a certain magnetic field strength.  It can not be excluded that SM used iron wire because its NMR frequency is so much lower than copper.  Iron wire would heat up much more than copper wire and this was the TPU's problem.  Nowdays the higher frequency of copper is no problem.  This, of course, assumes that NMR plays some role in the opertaion of the TPU, which may or may not be the case.

                                   Spin   NMR MHz at x magnetic field strength
197   Au   Gold      3/2      6.916
57   Fe    Iron         1/2   12.951
107   Ag   Silver      1/2    16.191
109   Ag   Silver      1/2    18.614
63   Cu   Copper    3/2  106.062

Not to be forgotten is that copper wire can be plated with gold or silver.  At RF, the current stays on the surface, so just a thin plating is all that is necessary.  Amateur radio operators have coated their copper tubing with silver since many decades, when building Kilowatt RF amplifiers.

Gold plating appears to be the best, having low frequency, low resistance, but high price.
Iron has a low frequency, but has high resistance therefore tendency to heat up.
Silver plating should be very good, has low frequency, low resistance, and tolerable price.
Copper has low resistance, affordable price, but high NMR frequency, however with 74HC and power FETs with ns switching speed 106 MHz is easily with-in reach, at least for someone who knows their electronics.

I am not a NMR expert, but it is possible that one is talking about small bandwidths, say Hertz to Kilohertz.  Therefore cheap and easy oscillators are out of the question.  No 555s.  Either an expensive synthesized laboratory RF generator or a DDS oscillator will most likely be necessary.  SM also implied that this is the case.

SM when talking about frequencies used kHz and the highest frequency that I remember was 245 kHz.
This is still a long way from 13 MHz for iron NMR.

As far as circuitry goes, I posted some circuits a long time ago.

Digital Circuit Diagrams+FETs+Drivers
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2582.msg36504.html#msg36504

Rapid Fire Rat Race Controller
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2582.msg38506.html#msg38506

It is no problem to generate the pulses for Spheric's configuration by using a shift register.  To obtain a space between pulses, use more shift register stages and leave a stage unused to obtain dead time between pulses.  The pulses may very well need to have much higher amplitude than 5V, several hundred Volts, even 1kV or more.

To answer someone's question, the aether itself has no NMR frequency, since it is sub-atomic, even sub-quantum.  The frequency that aether vibrates at is so high that you will get a hand cramp while writing all the zeros before MHz.  The smallest "thing" where NMR makes sense is the hydrogen atom with only a proton as a nucleus.  I have seen the H1, as it is called, being associated with a NMR frequency of 400 MHz.

There are certainly several ways to build TPUs, TPVs, TPWs, TPXs, and TPZs.  Pick a way to try, and build it.
In addition to a good signal generator, you will need a good oscillosope and better than average IQ.  This is Nature's way of preventing Joe Sixpack from hurting himself.

Regards, Earl

The beginning part of this page is interesting:
http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/Spectrpy/nmr/nmr2.htm#nmr11

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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2008, 12:29:37 AM »
Earl the use of iron NMR seems important. Our visitor explains the reasons why we are going for iron and not copper, silver or gold. Only iron interacts with the ether by providing us with magnetic field. The others don't and he also explains for good reason there is NO iron in the tpu. Basically we are simulating a chunk of iron revolving at high frequencies by emulation that the coil is not a coil at all but we are producing NMR of iron.

Can you see where this is heading if you emulate iron then spin it and wrap wire around it you have a generator!

"The frequency should be a harmonic of the NMR of iron. Do not use iron anywhere in your device this will only cause huge eddy current problems. Iron is magnetic because of the geometry and spacing of its atoms (stationary waves remember) which interact with the ether flow in a resonant fashion despite what you may already believe! The NMR is directly linked to this geometric spacing and hence to the resonant frequency of the ether."

Yes makes perfect sense! The TPU is replicating a spinning iron atom. We take the pure definition of a iron core spinning in 3D space and reconstruct the effect electrically. The ether then believes we have a bit of iron spinning at high speed and will provide the same effects.

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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2008, 12:44:32 AM »
Bolt,

the collector coil must be made out of some conductor.

Earl

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« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2008, 12:48:19 AM »
bolt,

iron is not the only magnetic material, there is steel, AlNiCo, ferrites, etc.

One could also rotate at the NMR frequency of a NeFeBoron molecule.

Earl

 

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