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CTG Labs

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #495 on: September 14, 2008, 03:25:39 PM »
One coil done 3 to go

35SWG 1.85km 774 Ohms3.23Henrys

Peter

Hi Peter,

Nice wind!  How did you manage this?  I built a coil winder with PIC micro and stepper motors, but I could not get something this good!


Regards,

Dave.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #496 on: September 14, 2008, 03:44:16 PM »
Hi Dave
Thanks for the comments.

LOL i was going to build a coil winder just as you described, but thought i would try a manual wind first, it was not so hard really.
i wanted a 38mm hole in the middle and 19mm square cross section coil, because i am driving at 330v fast pulses, i needed as much wire as i could get on the coil to increase the resistance.

I bought some 38mm washers with 8mm hole in middle, i used enough washers side by side to give me 19mm, i then placed two old cd's each side and two mdf disks i cut the same size as the cd's for stiffening the cd walls i then used 2 large washers to hold all together with long 8mm bolt.
I put down a thin layer of insulation tape over the washers to wind onto.

I then placed the 8mm bolt into a speed variable battery drill and held in a vice,i fed the wire through a long small dia tube to hold and feed the wire into carefull layers, with a bit of concentration and practise i got very good results, every 20 layers or so i stopped winding and brushed a layer of Laquer on the wire, i continued this until all 1.85km were wound.

I then put two more coats of laquer on the outside of the coil, and when dry i carefully dismantled the mdf and cd's, this was tricky because the cd's were glued to the coil so i used some fresh laquer to redissolve at the cd interface and then with a gentle twist of the cd removed it.

Once both cd's were removed, i then painted both flat sides with about 4 layers of Laquer with good soakings and when dry, i then removed the washers from the center, and then painted laquer on the inside.

I used a fast drying Laquer 30 minuets drying time.

Hope that helps

the finished coil is over 0.5kg Gulp

Peter

CTG Labs

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #497 on: September 14, 2008, 03:47:35 PM »
i continued this until all 1.85km were wound...

Ya, a lot of wire!

How long did the over all wind take?


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Dave.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #498 on: September 14, 2008, 03:57:28 PM »
Heres a picture of the Tetra Frame, i used 1.5mm card covered in masking tape as the mold, then filled with resin.

Peter

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #499 on: September 14, 2008, 04:01:30 PM »
It takes about 30-40 minutes to wind it, and then a day or two of laquer painting on and off.
Even with the drill at full speed i was able to get good control over the layering, it almost finds it's own path across with a gentle help.

Peter

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #500 on: September 14, 2008, 06:19:33 PM »
@Peterae

Nice wind. I am wondering if you could please try something that will help with my continued curiosity with all sorts of coils using the same test method. This I call the Coil Handyguy Test because it is based on his swinging device. I have made a diagram below to explain a simple test and would like to know if your coil will make voltage rise. If you have two small neomagnets and a metal shaft, a diode, a high mf cap and a voltmeter this would take about 5 minutes. You may find the result very revealing.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #501 on: September 14, 2008, 07:12:57 PM »
Hi all.  I just found this thread today and thought I'd record my two-cents.

I had followed the thread about S.M. - and while I do believe there is a natural source of energy that can be tapped without "work" - I was convinced that S.M. was full of S.H.I.T.

However - the first post of this thread makes sense.  He just didn't know how it worked.

The description in the first post, of iron magnets, is inline with what Ed Ledskalnin said he knew about what he called individual pole magnets.  He said these monopoles ran against each other with a 'right hand twist'... that they were flowing in one pole of the earth, and out the other.
These monopoles preferred to flow through metal.

He said that the iron simply allowed this force to flow through it.  That this is the result of the alignment of the underlying structure sounds reasonable.
That steel can be magnetized by applying electricity (and realigning the underlying structure) makes sense as well.

In regards to heterodyning, anyone fine tuning in order to achieve a difference frequency that is [some significant harmonic] of the other frequencies?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #502 on: September 15, 2008, 03:48:29 AM »
@wattsup,
Joseph Newman.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #503 on: September 15, 2008, 03:54:32 AM »

In regards to heterodyning, anyone fine tuning in order to achieve a difference frequency that is [some significant harmonic] of the other frequencies?


welcome!

I am in process of connecting a 4 channel cntlr to 8 bifilars. 16 tanks. cntlr has other flavors also.
coils also have removable iron/

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #504 on: September 15, 2008, 06:24:34 AM »
Hello all,

I have to clarify something:

For me, everything except wires is a core. A strip, a donut plate........it depends only what metal(s) you use as a core.

@Grumpy

because Im using a core I HAVE success.

Otto

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #505 on: September 15, 2008, 06:28:24 AM »
Hello all,

I have to clarify something:

For me, everything except wires is a core. A strip, a donut plate........it depends only what metal(s) you use as a core.

@Grumpy

because Im using a core I HAVE success.

Otto

GOOD to hear Otto, keep up the good work!.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #506 on: September 15, 2008, 11:56:53 AM »
Hallo Otto,

>>There is of course a reason I use 40 and 60 turns but this is a long story that I will post in a few days when I have a verification of my little theory.

Ich freue mich für Dich, dass du mit deinen Forschungen weitergekommen bist, find es aber letztendlich doch schade, dass du darüber nichts detailiert mehr posten willst, aus Angst jemand verseuche deinen PC.

Gruß, Dani


(Das ist so doch blödsinn. Besorge dir ein ordenliches Antivirenprogramm, halte deinen PC durch Windowsupdate auf dem neusten Stand, und installiere eine zusätzliche Firewall. Dann wähle dich noch mit einem Router in das Internet. Wenn du meinst dein Computer ist schon verseucht, nimm die die Zeit und installiere Windows neu auf eine neue Festplatte, und hole dir deine alten benötigten Dateien über usb (mit einem festplattengehäuse) in den neu aufgesetzten rechner. Erst wenn du abgeschottet bist, gehe wieder ins Internet)
 

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #507 on: September 15, 2008, 01:04:37 PM »
Hello all,

no, Im not afraid of viruses and attacs to my PC.

I dont want to post SHIT and MISLEAD people. I see here a lot of people are building TPUs, posting schematics, their results....

I dont want to jump in like in the past.

Just a short one about cores:

some people forgot Esa Manu and his posts??

Otto

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #508 on: September 15, 2008, 01:18:39 PM »

some people forgot Esa Manu and his posts??

Otto

@Otto,

Not at all  ;) but finding a balance of materials has been impossible for me. To me the primary purpose for a 'core' is to be the primary winding driving the control coil of the next core.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #509 on: September 15, 2008, 01:45:20 PM »
Hello all,

@BEP

yes, the cores are the main problem. You can use magnetic or non magnetic  metals or both, I dont know. What I kow is that with various cores I have totally different results and totally different connections in a TPU.

I think I made a big mistake in my TPU work:

I should have a  better look at the open TPU where we can count the biffilar numbers of the control coils and then use various cores to get a working TPU. This would be the best way, I hope at least.

Otto