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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 273191 times)

Offline bolt

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2008, 12:52:58 AM »
of course plain old copper speaker wire. There is no iron wire in the tpu. I see exactly how SM  did use bailing wire in the first models and why he managed to get something out of it. Basically as far as the ether was concerned he had an iron core that was spinning. However it wasn't 100% emulation and thus extremely inefficient because he WAS using iron core which killed the emulation may be by as much as 90%. With 10% electrical output 90% would have gone to heat and thats why it only produced 25 watts with dissipation more like 250 watts. After 5 mins it would be as hot as a stove.

I realize there are many magnetic materials and composites. The entire purpose is emulation while the actual device should remain 100% inert. In practice this will never be achieved. Can you imagine the  power of emulation a neodymium magnet?? :)

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« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2008, 12:53:10 AM »
[snip]
Basically we are simulating a chunk of iron revolving at high frequencies by emulation that the coil is not a coil at all but we are producing NMR of iron.

Can you see where this is heading if you emulate iron then spin it and wrap wire around it you have a generator!

Yes makes perfect sense! The TPU is replicating a spinning iron atom. We take the pure definition of a iron core spinning in 3D space and reconstruct the effect electrically. The ether then believes we have a bit of iron spinning at high speed and will provide the same effects.

Spinning a piece of virtual iron will have no effect in a coil, unless the iron is magnetized.
I do not yet see that the virtual spinning iron is magnetized.

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« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2008, 12:57:47 AM »
Bolt,

how does a spinning magnet induce a DC voltage in a collector coil?

Without a commutator, it should produce either zero voltage or an AC voltage.

Earl

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« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2008, 12:57:47 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2008, 01:01:47 AM »
@ All

This Could Be nothing But remember DFRO's post mentioned PHI which is 1.618, 2PHI is 3.236??????????????????????????????????

Now this could just be a weird coincidence but BOLT just posted that IRON a has NMR frequency 3.231 MH    ..... 3.231/2 = 1.6155  pretty close to 1.618 funny thing is what happens if you hit the exact nmr of a substance with an electromagnetic feild ? Does it blow up i dont know but i find it weird also that 1.618 is just far enough from 1.6155 to be considered tuning just off of the main freq as to not hit it.

just wanted to throw that out there
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As well From DFRO's post

"The magnet on the small device probably just triggered a magnetic switch that turned on the device" ..

sounds like a reed switch to me

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2008, 01:03:34 AM »

What have you done, Chris?  That's right - not a damn thing.  As for achieving OU, I might have been close once, but then so have many others.


Hey, I'm have never said I was winding coils and researching this or that. I actually said some time ago I did not even have a scope! However, that said, from what I have read and understood, I believe in this one or two of Spheric's post, there is much more substance than so many of these "know it all" people...

cheers
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« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2008, 01:05:33 AM »
I believe we have new focus now Earl the coil does have to be constructed to have 30 degree up tilts and 3d focus etc etc and it has to resonate as it were iron. We also know with greater accuracy then ever before it has TWO frequencies exactly as SM stated in the vids "turning on one, turning on two" and i think after 3 years the frequencies are much higher then a 555 timer. 100k to 10 meg range is far more likely. The timing circuit cuts out the kitchen table builder. This is lab stuff only and thus with the number of people actually building this with access to the equipment on this forum leaves it in the hands of what 12 guys??

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« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2008, 01:14:48 AM »
Earl i think your complicating things. The real tpu has a funnel effect and operates like a tube rectifier in it own right by forcing electrons to flow more in one way then the other. This gives the DC output. The flow is biased between the earth and the sky so the device is polarized. Although its believed SM later solved this problem yet i never considered it to be a problem. Car batteries only work up one way unless you seal them or the acid tips out.  The 5kz is some artifact of the rotation based on the NMR iron emulation. The only other explanation is the device only outputs power when its tapped off via a diode then you have no choice you got DC or nothing. This is highly possible given the frequencies involved are in the 100k to 10 meg range its no good to man or beast to have AC up this high so you might as well pop a diode in and call it DC.

Whatever as we always said before you know when you got a twister going then tapping the juice is no big deal then these questions are easily answered.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2008, 01:22:58 AM »
Here are some visualizations for you all...

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Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1233513171344143154&hl=en


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2008, 01:27:09 AM »
@BOLT

IN refrence to your last post heres the exact quote from DFRO'S Post

"I also think he is using a small battery in all the devices to run the pulse control circuitry.  I imagine there are a few 555 ic's that are driving some kind of fast, high voltage mosfet driver to make 1 to 4 sets of very fast, short on-time pulses, which are harmonics of each other.  I would suggest doing pulse ratios that are in the Fibonacci series or each pulse being the previous pulse times phi."

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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2008, 01:33:41 AM »
There is now a new problem. If the TPU required such precision workmanship with the coils providing 3D focus then how did they all work in the vids and looked nothing like this? With the coils flattened out efficiency must have been reduced hundreds of percent its a miracle they ever worked...........unless this is wrong.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2008, 01:36:25 AM »
forget that i thought  DFRO'S information was the latest stuff from the horse mouth. I was getting mixed up. Its just old speculation.

The visitor of this thread has laid out clearly the relationship of the frequencies. There is no fibo or pi numbering. It makes more sense then anything i read here in 3 years and i suspect he know MUCH more about the TPU then he is letting on.:)

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2008, 02:39:56 AM »
  @tao

    Nice work.   This definitely shows how to put the magfields so that they interface in a 3d mode.  We know that potential energy is stored in inertial frames.  And we know that these inertial frames will only exchange potential energy at their interface.  So what I see when I look at these configurations is potential energy from the ambient magnetic field interfacing with the 4coils magnetic fields and then those 4 coils interfacing with each other.  Potential energy traveling the interfaces.  Maybe you could add to the picture genertating program the firing sequence of the coil kicks to visualize how this tehedral would spin.  I don't have the computer skills but I think it is important to show that this configuration has to be off-tuned.  As it looks statically the original poster may have had some experience with fusion technology.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2008, 03:52:37 AM »

Have been reading about this Aspden guy who seems pretty much a clued up sort of person having beeen with IBM not that that means anything but he was a big boy in IBM and hes also beem talked about in other posts.

Seems like spinning magnets dont take the same time to spin up after the first time of doing it seems like this would also be what spherics is doing in some ways.
20-30 seconds first time and 5 seconds second time is big difference.


http://www.aspden.org/books/Es/esbookoverview.pdf

(5) The Aspden Effect
This author has assembled a motor using disc-shaped ferrite magnets of the kind used in
loudspeakers, mounted on a rotor shaft and interleaved with electrical sheet steel laminations
each having eight poles. Here rotation causes the magnets to induce radial EMFs in those poled
rotor laminations and the passage of those poles past the corresponding poles of a stator
assembly causes flux pulsation. So we have the induction of a pulsating radial electric field in
aether coextensive with the rotor assembly, a recipe according to what has been stated above for
inflow of aether energy.
However, here again, this being an alternative version of a homopolar magnet machine,
the thought of this ever being a way forward in meeting our future energy needs has been ruled
out. However, the tests on this motor did give further insight into that interplay with the aether
and the presence of an anomalous energy gain.
When the motor was first started, spinning at some 1500 rpm, it was noted that it reached
that speed after switch-on in a period of 20-30 seconds. If it was then stopped and restarted, its
speed-up time to that speed was some 5 seconds if no more that two or three minutes had passed
since it had come to rest, but the longer the period waited before restart, the longer it took to
reach 1500 rpm. It was as if there was something there having a weak inertial coupling with the
rotor that was spinning separately and slowing down at a slower rate. Here was what seemed
to be an aether phenomenon.
Before moving on from that research effort several tests were performed at different
times of day and with different compass orientations of the rotor axis. The phenomenon varied
with spin axis direction, suggesting that the quantum spin of the aether has a fixed orientation
in space, a result consistent with the author?s theoretical expectations dating back to the late
1950 period. This phenomenon has been named ?The Aspden Effect? by Dr. Hal Fox, editor of
the U.S. publication New Energy News, which is why that expression is used as the title to this
section.
For a detailed report of the author?s tests on this machine (though not including that axial
reorientation phenomenon) see ref. [7].

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2008, 05:06:47 AM »
May I please add an element to the nice synopsis already made?

The visitor says:

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The diameter of the toroid hole should be the same as the diameter of the toroid windings for optimum results

I think this detail was missed. The main reason I posted that pic of the iron atom was so there would be a visual reference. I think these proportions may be very important.

jeanna

Here is the address:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3996.0.html

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2008, 05:16:05 AM »
A single phase induction motor stator makes a rotating magnetic field that will spin a copper tube.

Dr. H. Aspden is brilliant.

Dr. Bibias R. De postulated that you could spin a MAGNET then measure the spining magnetic field(mass) drop after spinning ceases. The field has masslike momentum like a flywheel.

Spin is everything!





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