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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 295585 times)

Offline eldarion

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #345 on: March 31, 2008, 12:04:41 AM »
OK, I was pulling my data from here: http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Fe/nucl.html
This page shows 100MHz, Wikipedia shows 900MHz for 1H (proton). Who's right? :)

Wikipedia is for a 21 Tesla field; that page was for a 1 Tesla field.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #346 on: March 31, 2008, 12:10:08 AM »
In addition, when an impulse is sent to the wire, there is no such a thing as broad-band.
Well, I leave this to you as I do not understand you, sorry.

@aleks,

A long time ago in this forum, I posted a link to a web site showing a graph of the inrush current before the magnetic field is established. I am lazy to search for it again, sorry. It shows that the inrush current at the beginning has a parabolic form, not linear.
Before that post, I described one of my test with BEMF and a simple transformer with two identical coils. The BEMF wasn?t my point. The point was that when an impulse is sent to a transformer after any residual field is gone it behaves in completely different way. In that test I described how the input and output was measured, all at DC level. What it showed that the output current was exceeding the input (two identical coils!!!) by about 30% (if I remember correctly) and all, again, was measured after using rectifies and smoothing capacitors. However, it wasn?t overunity. The point was, don?t send the next impulse while there is any residual magnetic flux left (that is where an iron core might be a problem, but I am not sure). What spherics is describing is a little different. He is saying that one should send the second impulse right after the first one and at the same time as close as possible to get into the space of the expending field created by the first impulse. That is where my example with the bicycles is coming from. So, here are two conditions. One is that the pulse has to be short enough to avoid any residual flux left for the second pair of pulses, and each second pulse in each pair of pulses should be very close. What spherics is describing is that there is a strange effect discovered with the above conditions.

There is something else to notice. Spherics is saying that any magnetic core is going to kill the effect. Maybe. What about the first open tpu? Don?t we have really heavy saw blades in there?
Here is another thing. The second open tpu. A lot of people have noticed that two wires are soldered together at one end. I had a look at those pictures again and again. And I have noticed that in at least of a couple of other pictures another side of the two wires also seems to be soldered together. Isn?t it strange???


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #347 on: March 31, 2008, 12:11:17 AM »
Wikipedia is for a 21 Tesla field; that page was for a 1 Tesla field.
Probably I do not understand this NMR biz that much. It seems that resonance changes with magnetic field intensity. However, what I've read about NMR measurements is that they are made with oscillating intensity. How can they measure resonance at all? Well, if they do it, then your estimate of 6.475KHz for iron in Earth's magnetic field is a correct one. Though, I do not understand how can they measure some resonance if the field is static. Probably they are using an additional weak oscillator, and the static field is considered to be "ambient conditions" (like bias signal).

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #347 on: March 31, 2008, 12:11:17 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #348 on: March 31, 2008, 12:24:19 AM »
HOLY CRAP


ALEKS im glad you repeated his post i didnt read it but look at mine above and my freq table.... i think hes right on track and that confirms it.. wow freakin wow... PHI

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AWSOME FIND BRO PLEASE READ MY ABOVE POST

By the way, take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron @ picture called "Golden rectangles in an icosahedron". Makes you think considering liquid iron exhibits icosahedron symmetry.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #349 on: March 31, 2008, 12:29:51 AM »
@aleks and Eldarion

  
Frequency relative to 1H = 100 (MHz) 3.237778

2 X1.618 = 3.236  Iron's NMR - Earth has a spinning molten iron core as far as i know

4 X 1.618 = 6.472  Darn close to 6.475KHz which is proposed for the earths magnetic feild/ the cores magnetic feild

This device has been related many times to our planet and how it converts energy i just wanted to make those facts known again if folks had forgot

As well another good catch its a platonic solid... the ratios of pythagoras .. Plato directly relate to PHI hmm shite is comming together

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #350 on: March 31, 2008, 12:44:20 AM »
@ Bruce,

You've just skirted around every point I brought up, and have muddled the facts even further.

btw, Spheric Audio Labs was "known" on this forum almost a year ago. Where are you getting your info from?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #351 on: March 31, 2008, 12:47:21 AM »
One note to everybody thinking in about "symmetry" aspect. Fe (iron) has cube lattice, no tetrahedrons and such here. So, original spherics' "close packing" of bubbles example is inapplicable here. On the other hand, iron (as other Face-centered cubic metals) does exhibit some icosahedron symmetry when it melts down (I've taken this info from a scientific paper). If Earth's core stays in liquid state the liquid iron may have some icosahedron symmetry.

There is no relation between a tetrahedron and a cube.  ;)

http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.00/nishi1.html

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #352 on: March 31, 2008, 01:16:27 AM »
...I believe that it is much more likely that the man made one mistake instead of twelve mistakes...

My apologies to the ladies.  I automatically assume spherics to be a man.

I have worked alongside many talented female engineers in my time.  It just seems like there are few to none in this 'biker bar' forum.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #353 on: March 31, 2008, 02:00:01 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #354 on: March 31, 2008, 03:44:56 AM »
Max Freq. for me is around 30 Mhz, but I hope to see something.......


@ Loner
Start off using the right frequency and it's harmonic, or any tests are going no where.  Sorry, but you need more MHz. 297 times more.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #355 on: March 31, 2008, 04:20:51 AM »
I think I just realized something important... maybe this has already been mentioned, but does anyone else see these are the same harmonics that Dr. Stiffler has been looking at?

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To test for core resonance points, capacity couple to the aluminum backing plate with no more than 27pf cap in series with the hot lead of the generator. The ground of the generator is not connected to the circuit in any way. A sweep generator fed through the coupling capacitor should show responses in the following ranges. (Valid for coil L2+L3 specified in parts list)

1.2 MHz +/- 100KHz
3.3 MHz +/- 200KHz
10.4 MHz +/- 100KHz
12.1 MHz +/- 200KHz

These frequencies fall statistically within the same area as that found in earlier circuits using similar cores and coils.

The followingg material resonance points are being noted for Barium and Iron for 1 Tesla.

135Ba  4.2581 v/MHz
137Ba  4.7633 v/MHz
 57Fe   1.3815 v/MHz

source: http://67.76.235.52/ce4.asp

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #356 on: March 31, 2008, 09:14:04 AM »
There is no relation between a tetrahedron and a cube.  ;)
http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.00/nishi1.html
The relation is really is only partial. Metals in solid state have no bonds across tetrahedron edges. On the other hand, resonance may not be about bonds, but about fitting symmetries. In that case tetrahedron may fit well here.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #357 on: March 31, 2008, 09:20:23 AM »
Or am I way off the mark?
It depends on the actual nature of the magnetic field oscillations. If they are ambient you do not need to follow any 'structures'. If these oscillations are somehow 'polarized', you'll need to find a 'synced' arrangement, and this is where knowledge about iron symmetries in various substance states (soild, liquid) may help - of course, if Earth's liquid iron core magnetic resonance energy source is a valid hypothesis.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 01:00:55 PM by aleks »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #358 on: March 31, 2008, 10:51:10 AM »
SIMed, just like in this post: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg85750.html#msg85750

But, done with an angle of 19.5 instead of 30...

For your visualization pleasures...


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #359 on: March 31, 2008, 01:38:56 PM »
One is that the pulse has to be short enough to avoid any residual flux left for the second pair of pulses, and each second pulse in each pair of pulses should be very close. What spherics is describing is that there is a strange effect discovered with the above conditions.
As I've suggested several times already, using pure sawtooth signal may help overcome problems posed by square waves to this TPU business. Sawtooth should be good not only in my 'DC acoustic wave' hypothesis (in hopes to create anti-gravity field), but it may help to "kick" the coil in TPUs in a most effective manner since sawtooth has no "counteracting" pulse front - sawtooth basically has a single raising (or falling depending on the polarity) pulse front, the "body" of the sawtooth is putting all voltages and currents to rest, gradually, without causing any unwanted transients (RC low-passed sawtooth should be even a better thing).

There is something else to notice. Spherics is saying that any magnetic core is going to kill the effect.
Well, if the energy is really is coming from Earth's iron core, any local magnetic core will be "stealing" the juice I think. On the other hand, I believe magnetic core may be used as a flux "amplifier": you just need to tune to it somehow (my funny device shows one variant where iron screws are connected with aluminium +/- terminals http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4338.0.html), or put this core into a superconductivity state (which is hard to do in normal conditions, of course).

Ha ha, what if permanent magnets are permanent because Earth itself supports their energy? :)
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 09:26:52 PM by aleks »

 

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