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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 300543 times)

turbo

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #255 on: March 27, 2008, 08:36:45 PM »
Grumpy, why do you want to use square wave form?
These are the most rich in harmonic content.
Sawtooth is richer, though its RMS is lower than that of square wave given same peak-to-peak voltage difference.

Could be.

But that was not my point.
My point was to clarify that we do not want harmonics at all.
Why?

Because Steven said so:

I assumed that anyone working on technology this sophisticated would have a superior knowledge of electronics and an understanding of PURE frequency output being a Necessity to control the reactions going on inside the collector.

I prefer using triodes because they generate less distortion.
Any deviation from the original signal or addition to , Harmonic and intermodulation is not good for stereo enjoyment, you know...

All those harmonics somehow get through to the music output and just ruin the music...

You know transistors just don't do well at those high frequencies. They try hard but they just make all sorts of harmonics all over the place. dirty things transistors.

It is in the document bro.

M.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #256 on: March 27, 2008, 08:37:25 PM »
at a certain point in the video you can hear the ocscillator give its tell tail wistle as its charging up...its very faint and obscured by background noise, you can hear around 4-5 separate charging wistle's from the oscillator!, ive known this for a long while and didnt think it was anything new untill i read spherics post about the caps being charged by an ocsillator, if this is of any use i can put you on to the exact point this happens in the video, if its not important no worrys just trying to help you guys along  :)

cheers

Chad.

Okay Chad, please let us know.
Thanks.

P.S: Some other people over here are posting sometimes useless comments without any contens.
Please stop this as this only clutters the thread.
Thanks for understanding.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #257 on: March 27, 2008, 08:41:33 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #257 on: March 27, 2008, 08:41:33 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #258 on: March 27, 2008, 08:52:31 PM »
someone mentioned fear,and not knowing with what they're playing with.After seeing the drawings of spherics design it trigered something I had seen or had read so I began looking for info and found some interesting but fearful stuff.Maybe everybody should take a look at this and maybe think twice about traveling down that road he suggested.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #259 on: March 27, 2008, 08:57:12 PM »
everyone is going nuts, they must have adjusted the HAARP frequencies

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #260 on: March 27, 2008, 10:03:06 PM »
OK GUYS LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY!

I dont know if you missed my post as it wasnt anything new but it may give you the idea of how the TPU is started!

45 seconds into the video at the point were SM "energises" the unit you will hear the wistle of the oscillator....then you hear it again straight after, once he hands over the TPU to the gentleman beside him if you listen carefully you hear it again at "53 seconds", the gentleman then says "vibration ...slight noise", after this i cant hear it again and the gentleman then says "vibration"
Dont confuse the background noise with the ocsillator.

if somebody could clean up the audio a little you will be able to hear it better.

Listen to the video with head/ear phones on with the volume high otherwise you may not be able to distinguish the oscillator from the background noise.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4635806392548711631

Chad.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #261 on: March 27, 2008, 10:15:30 PM »
    You need the linear rise of the pulse voltage to get the potential setup across that coil so the energy of the input shows up across the whole mass of the coil instead of messing around pushing one electron after another from orbital to orbital.  You want the input to amplify the drift current inside the conductor not push the whole mass of electrons and protons.  This signal will travel near the speed of light through the copper electron cloud.  Scalar wave whatever you want to call it.
    Imagine a picture tube but instead of a vacuum you have it filled with electrons.  The voltage applied across the anode and cathode would result in instantaneous charge seperation at very low applied potential.
We don't have this advantage in a bifilar wound coil. The voltage and rise rate need to be increased to get the energy to the electrons already responding to the ambient magnetic field before the energy gets absorbed rattling the neucleus and electrons in lower energy suborbitals.
     The input wave duty cycle needs to be minimal as this energy will not only be wasted but detrimental to the desired effect.

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turbo

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #262 on: March 27, 2008, 10:15:54 PM »
I have analyzed these video's years ago.
There are more sequences in other video's too.
It's the "click kicks" that are important.

M.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #263 on: March 27, 2008, 10:16:04 PM »
Nice talking about many interesting thing! May it's useful for some folk, but sorry for saying that, but you all miss the point again!

With these some new post from Spherics, merry-go-round started again. You again talking about how to build amplifier, many strange, sometimes interesting, but still useless theory, again FEMM pictures, blablabla, sorry to say that, but these thing are fully useless here, again, and again...

All magnetic simulator software are useless in that field! Why? Because they miss the point too! They don't know how magnetic field are  "created" around a coil! That's the most important thing to understand!

I am nobody, and i  haven't rights to blame you, but i suggest hardly, go back to basic, and try to understand what's going on in a simple wire, when you apply voltage to it. Just think about simple compass,about equilibrium state in space of any magnet, or magnetized material...


To everyone that did not get the point:

"Qui potest capere capiat"

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #264 on: March 27, 2008, 10:20:23 PM »
everyone is going nuts, they must have adjusted the HAARP frequencies


Thank goodness!  I was getting lonely out here all by my self. :)



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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #265 on: March 27, 2008, 10:31:41 PM »
@Chad

      I heard it!  There is another one sounds like vibrating wires at about a beat a second.  This is when he activates the baby tpu.  I've heard this vibration before and I think it is a subharmonic of 60cycle stuff.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #266 on: March 28, 2008, 04:06:49 AM »
@spherics

I did test your simple example. There seems to be a voltage amplification. That appears with short pulses, around 3?10 mks. The amplification was around 20% in amplitude, ie, in voltage. I don?t want to jump into a conclusion, but there is something interesting about it. The amplification wasn?t proportional to the width of the pulse. Reducing the width of the pulse below 5mks didn?t seem to give any voltage amplification. The same was for pulses above 20 mks in width. I haven?t tested it under load. That is going to be a more complicated test. I can also confirm that inserting a ferrite core into the coil effectively kills the amplification, however, it didn?t kill it completely. I used frequencies from 2 khz and up to 100 khz. As an input for short high slew rate pulses I used BEMF pulses from another device. For a delay line I used a few turns of copper wire. There also seems to be a dependency of the amplification on the number of turns in the delay coil, but not much. In some cases, with reducing the delay the amplification was increased. I had to play with it but very little. The results appeared right away. I haven?t tried to use an iron wire as a delay line, I just don?t have it right now. I have tried to find any mistake in the set up or incorrect measuring and for now I couldn?t.

I am not saying in which point of the coil the amplification of the voltage occurs. I hope it was more than clear described by spherics.

I will see what is going to happen with my next tests. Very interesting, but I would wait for more testing.

Kames.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #267 on: March 28, 2008, 05:45:50 AM »
I can also confirm a possible voltage amplification effect under no load resonant conditions.  I used an iron wire coil of around 10 turns for the delay coil.  First I established resonance of the bifilar coil without the iron wire; this was at 5.557MHz.  When I added the iron wire, the system detuned to a lower frequency of around 5.2MHz and the resulting peak-peak voltage was greater by around 20% (interesting how the two tests coincide).

I was driving the system with 10V p-p square waves through a 100K resistor, and the no-load p-p voltage was 11.4V.  When I switched the generator to sine wave, the coil p-p voltage dropped to around 8V.

In all cases the voltage scoped across the coil was a perfect sine wave.

I am not sure what to make of this...I am not seeing any sharply defined kicks, and this could just be simple resonant voltage rise occuring.  Shorting the 100K resistor destroyed any voltage rise as expected.

Any thoughts Spherics?

Eldarion

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« Reply #268 on: March 28, 2008, 07:23:06 AM »
@spherics

I have a few specific questions and observations.

1. Were you aware that if the coils are tuned very closely then pulsing just the A coil at frequency 3f will induce a natural 3 phase resonance in the x,y and z coils at frequency f?
If you were aware of this have/can you successfully drive the complete set of coils for an OU result in this manner?

2. Were you aware of the recent work on non radiating antennas? http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0510/0510154v1.pdf   Although the analysis has not been done it appears that your configuration may be another embodiment of a non radiating antenna -- which will act as an energy trap at the resonant frequency.

3. Have you tried any of the symmetric three loop(coil) tetrahedral topologies? If so have you tested both chiral forms and did you observe difference in the performance of left and right hand configurations?

4. Can you give any recommendations from experience of aspect ratio and number of turns for the exciter coils?

5. How do you define the tetrahedral volume -- are the exciter coils within this volume or radiating out from the volume?

6. You mention both harmonic of Fe NMR and natural resonance of coils (in reference to SM tuning of kick coils). For your tetrahedral design -- do you operate at "natural" resonance of the exciter coils or some other frequency?
As an aside here other researchers have reported the the exact frequency of this class of device is not critical but rather the natural resonance of the coils (not lumped resonance dictated by external capacitor). I am interested in your experiences.

7. Have you noticed the logarithmic dependency (increase) on applied voltage that others have observed?

8. Have you experimented with the harmonic make-up of the signal applied to the exciter coils? If so I am interested in what you have found to be efficacious in boosting the output.

9. Have you looked for spin (cold) current output? ... or have you always selected the output configurations to maximise normal bulk current?

10. What sort of drive circuits have you found most effective -- low impedance or high? Low or high side drive or both?

Sorry for the sudden slew of questions and comments. I have been quietly watching and comparing comments with other work. Please feel free to PM me if you wish.

...and no -- before anyone asks, I can not post more specifics in public at this time.

cheers

mark.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #269 on: March 28, 2008, 09:00:34 AM »
I can also confirm a possible voltage amplification effect under no load resonant conditions.  I used an iron wire coil of around 10 turns for the delay coil.  First I established resonance of the bifilar coil without the iron wire; this was at 5.557MHz.  When I added the iron wire, the system detuned to a lower frequency of around 5.2MHz and the resulting peak-peak voltage was greater by around 20% (interesting how the two tests coincide).

I was driving the system with 10V p-p square waves through a 100K resistor, and the no-load p-p voltage was 11.4V.  When I switched the generator to sine wave, the coil p-p voltage dropped to around 8V.

In all cases the voltage scoped across the coil was a perfect sine wave.

I am not sure what to make of this...I am not seeing any sharply defined kicks, and this could just be simple resonant voltage rise occuring.  Shorting the 100K resistor destroyed any voltage rise as expected.

Any thoughts Spherics?

Eldarion
Hope you guys know that ANY coil works as a low-pass filter and that the low-passed square wave tone appears to have a higher peak-to-peak voltage, and that depends on the cutoff point of the coil. The higher the cutoff point, the higher will be the raise. Of course, this raise does not have any OU characteristics, because the effective RMS will be lower than that of the original square wave.

 

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