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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 303689 times)

Offline poynt99

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #165 on: March 26, 2008, 01:22:55 PM »
If spherics' design is an improvement on SM's, then great. That can be step 2.

I for one would like to relate what he is saying back to SM's original design so I can understand it better.

It should be straight-forward to explain the SM version design if spherics' design is an improvement (this assumes that one has an understanding of the original prior to making any improvements).

So although I appreciate any improvements to the design, I think it is wise to first replicate the original (as Bedini and others have reiterated a thousand times in the past).

All I asked was for spherics to please relate his ideas to the SM TPU configuration. This will not only help us understand the basics, but also help to illustrate why his idea is an improvement over the 'old'.

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« Reply #166 on: March 26, 2008, 01:38:29 PM »
@Group ....

I have not tried spherics design but I did use the pulsing method and rotating fields and you will blow your unit up.  I used a microcontroller to achieve the frequencies needed and to put them into the harmonics on my WFC ... I did what Bob Boyce said would be dangerous which is what Spheric is also saying will happen.  I do not know what the final voltage was but I can tell you that my 6" torid core shattered from the voltage cascade ... I adjust the the frequencies from a distance and glad I did.  What I am now trying to accomplish is to be able to control the event.  The input voltage was 12 volts and then stepped up to 144 volts.

Another problem in the tuning is the earth's frequency and outside frequency .. you will need to adjust around this or at least by aware of it as it will cause units to work and to fail.

I will see if I can find some pics of what happened .. although I do not believe have any left as my media drive crashed at Christmas time.

out for now

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #167 on: March 26, 2008, 02:14:05 PM »
well said poynt99
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It should be straight-forward to explain the SM version design if spherics' design is an improvement (this assumes that one has an understanding of the original prior to making any improvements).

even Jack said that nobody else knew how it worked except SM,  so this spheriecs guy  claims he is not SM, so therfore he does not know,  and it's painfully obvious he's theorizing.  He doesn't even have the toroid placed correctly to intercept the rotating energy which is claimed to be the answer  (and a toroid would not even work in this configuration)

However, what's interesting, he sounds like he is claiming to know SM and what he discovered,  which makes me wonder if this is perhaps another guy that worked with SM in the early days and knows how SM got his inspiration in the first place (he did mention the "kick"  which even SM said was how he got started.)

if everybody would just be upfront and just say who they are and what they know, then we can descipher what's important and what's 2nd hand opinion, but people for some reason want to play games and sound important when they're not.   If he is SM and doesn't want people to know it, just say you know the inventer "very well" and this is how it works, period, but beating around the bush and posting nonsensical diagrams will not help in the end.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #167 on: March 26, 2008, 02:14:05 PM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #168 on: March 26, 2008, 02:27:04 PM »
    @grumpy

The kick pulse or voltage between the two bifilars is just the indicator used to tune the timing on the bifilar circuit as a whole not an operational dynamic just an indicator that you've got the bifilar timing right.    Timed relavent to what would be my next question of spherics.
     GK in one of his vids shows what appears to be a kick pulse.  I'm not sure what part of the circuit he was monitoring at the time,  but you see a bunch of small pulse peaks at regular intervals and then he picksup a pulse that is clear off the oscope screen.

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« Reply #169 on: March 26, 2008, 03:24:52 PM »
@grumpy,   let's hope it's not a game, and the motivation is sincere.


@ all

I read the patent spherics presented in more detail.   It is a pulse shaping circuit based on LC filter stages, where the inductors are actualy meant to saturate, and go into the nonlinear region, quite easily.  This has the effect of narrowing down the pulse in time (I'm not sure about the magnitude at this point)

Here's a diagram of how this is used in a circuit and the waveform after sucessive stages of filtration.

So what's the use?   Well, if you don't have fast enough switching capability, you can use this technique to narow the pulse down and increase the rise time.  Notice the period stays the same.  If you do want to understand this from a signal theory point of view,  in the nonlinear region the inductor introduces harmonics of the base frequency, which when added up progressively forms the typical INPULSE train, which has a Fourier series described by a bunch of harmonics.    In this patent they need these pulses for lasers, but if SM did use this principle, it was perhaps for other reasons.

EM

P.S.  Note that the signal progresses from waveform "A" down to "D" in the figure. It has gone through 3 stages of "filtration" composed of this saturable inductor stages, (figure 1 only shows two stages)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 03:48:04 PM by EMdevices »

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« Reply #170 on: March 26, 2008, 03:49:49 PM »

Above goes to diagram.

Yes, this is what I described. Thanks for the diagram.

This diagram shows you what is needed to get a kick, and view a kick on an oscilloscope.

No iron as a core. Wind on a stiff poly pipe. Use copper wire for the windings.
Keep the delay coil 2+ feet away from the bifilar coil.
Keep the bifilar as far away as possible from your oscilloscope and permanent magnets.
Pulse with a square wave.
Tune as per previous post.

Someone mentioned about connecting the oscilloscope.
Use two channels and connect two probes, one probe to each coil.
Not one probe across the two coils.

@rosphere

The tetrahedral diagram was to show the orientation of the coils to help clarify my description.
What is important is the 4 coils are identical both physically and electrically and
are oriented at the exact angle as per the tetrahedral diagram and
are placed equidistant from the center.
Tao diagrams are spot on and show how for a given size of coil where you can place the toroid pick up.
Again no iron in any of the cores. (or nickel or aluminium contact wires)
No metal for supports.

@whoever said this

Someone mentioned the Alberto Molina-Martinez device as being the same. It would appear at a casual glancing at the patent to be chock full to the brim with iron/steel and other magnetic materials which I have said ad nausium is a no-no. Also the 3 phase pickup coils use the same coil structure and location as the 3 phase generating coils. As soon as the pickup coils are induced they will reflect a pattern in the ether back on the generating coils and any advantage will be lost. There are also no pulses timed to cause an overlap of ether waves in the proximity of the pickup coil nor is there any directional biasing.

@commentor on toroid pickup
You need to wrap your head around some of concepts espoused by Harold Aspden before commenting on whether the toroid is correctly placed or of the correct structure. The ether keeps spinning for a considerable amount of time after the pulses are stopped. If you would care to consider the angle in 3D where the magnetic fields would oppose you would observe that it forms at an angle. Transposed into a rotation this forms a funnel of compression. With a little bit more thought you may even consider the placement of the magnetic void and again see that this void would transpose on rotation to form a toroid void. The persistence of the ether waves long after the magnetic field allows discrete time separated pulses to merge in their affect on the ether. This void combined with the rotating pulses cause the ether to spiral. The spiraling ether interacts with the metal of the copper toroid along with the vertical direction pulse from the top coil. This cause the ether to not only spiral round in a circle as viewed from above but also to corkscrew along the path of the toroid windings. The corkscrewing path of the ether around the toroid is now in line with the windings. This creates a longitudinal wave along the copper creating a large current effect in the toroid windings. Which is what is needed. Given that the toroid is now generating a magnetic field, outside of the toroid even though you don't have a magnetic field you stil have ether waves. You'll note the 3 generating coils are symmetrically and equally affected by these ether waves such that the rotation does not become lop-sided. You'll also note the top coil above the toroid is affected equally on all sides ensuring that the pulse from the top coil that reaches each of the three coils is identical in everycase even after interacting with the etherwaves from the toroid.



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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #171 on: March 26, 2008, 03:56:44 PM »
SPHERICS thanx for the post I am but a  Minion here  those in the know will love this thanx again Chet

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #172 on: March 26, 2008, 04:02:08 PM »
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You need to wrap your head around some of concepts espoused by Harold Aspden before commenting on whether the toroid is correctly placed or of the correct structure. The ether keeps spinning for a considerable amount of time after the pulses are stopped. If you would care to consider the angle in 3D where the magnetic fields would oppose you would observe that it forms at an angle. Transposed into a rotation this forms a funnel of compression. With a little bit more thought you may even consider the placement of the magnetic void and again see that this void would transpose on rotation to form a toroid void. The persistence of the ether waves long after the magnetic field allows discrete time separated pulses to merge in their affect on the ether. This void combined with the rotating pulses cause the ether to spiral. The spiraling ether interacts with the metal of the copper toroid along with the vertical direction pulse from the top coil. This cause the ether to not only spiral round in a circle as viewed from above but also to corkscrew along the path of the toroid windings. The corkscrewing path of the ether around the toroid is now in line with the windings. This creates a longitudinal wave along the copper creating a large current effect in the toroid windings. Which is what is needed. Given that the toroid is now generating a magnetic field, outside of the toroid even though you don't have a magnetic field you stil have ether waves. You'll note the 3 generating coils are symmetrically and equally affected by these ether waves such that the rotation does not become lop-sided. You'll also note the top coil above the toroid is affected equally on all sides ensuring that the pulse from the top coil that reaches each of the three coils is identical in everycase even after interacting with the etherwaves from the toroid.

Ok Spherics,  I will draw up a diagram and show you what I believe.   I do understand how toroidal windings work and that you don't need a B-field, it's the A-field that realy induces the current.


stay tuned... [edit:  I commented below in the next posting]

EM
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« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2008, 04:05:00 PM »
scorch?

Harold Aspden?  Can we add a little Wilbert Smith in with that?

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« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2008, 04:14:26 PM »
Ok Spherics,  I will draw up a diagram and show you what I believe.   I do understand how toroidal windings work and that you don't need a B-field, it's the A-field that realy induces the current.

stay tuned...

EM

If you have a B-field, then you have an A-field and that other one with the wierd Greek symbol - the static one.

Anyway, no sense clouding the issue with the alphabet of fields.

"Tempic field" is a good name.  COMP is more descriptive though.

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« Reply #175 on: March 26, 2008, 04:32:29 PM »
Works of Dr. Harold Aspden:

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/

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« Reply #176 on: March 26, 2008, 04:34:39 PM »
Judging by what I've read from the OP's links and pictures I see a few things that I have seen in some variation before.

First, but not the focus of this post, is the hexagonal lattice stuff.  It reminds me of Metatron's Cube and its relationship to cymatics.  Keep in mind that cymatics deals with all waves (electromagnetic ones, too), sound is just an easy medium to experiment with because you can see its results using sand and a metal plate.  There are carvings in the Rossalyn Chapel that depict such vibrational patterns.  There are 13 carvings in total, a number in common with Metatron's Cube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy2Dg-ncWoY

This version of the cube leaves spaces in between the circles/spheres on the outer edge, this picture has 13 circles total.  If the rim was complete, it alone would contain 12 individual circles, 13 if you count the start and end as individual.  If the outer circles were there you would see 6 triangles with a shared edge and all with a common center.  From the center they each would be in a 1-2-3 configuration.  If we multiply each number by 3 we get 3-6-9.  Familiar?
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then you would have a key to the universe." - Nicola Tesla
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Metatrons_cube.svg/200px-Metatrons_cube.svg.png)

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The Fruit of Life (a component of the Flower of Life) has thirteen circles. If each circle's center is considered a "node", and each node is connected to each other node with a single line, a total of seventy-eight lines are created. Within this cube, many other shapes can be found, including two-dimensionally flattened versions of the five Platonic solids. The true Metatron's Cube will include all five Platonic solids in such a way that the solids, existing in volumetric 3D space, have had their z-coordinates set to zero but their x- and y-coordinates retained, such that they are orthogonally flattened.

In early kabbalist scriptures, Metatron supposedly forms the cube from his soul. This cube can later be seen in Christian art, where it appears on his chest or floating behind him. Metatron's cube is also considered a holy glyph, and was often drawn around an object or person to ward off demons and satanic powers. This idea is also present in alchemy, in which the cube was favoured as a containment circle or creation circle.

The simplest means of constructing Metatron's Cube is to begin with a cube flattened along a space diagonal, such that it becomes a 2D figure, equivalent to a regular hexagon divided via its own diagonals into six equilateral triangles. The vertices of this 2D figure are then connected with additional lines. Several steps later, the full Metatron's Cube figure is formed. This method requires dividing vertices according to the golden ratio. There is also a method of construction from the Flower of Life. The cube resembles the fourth dimensional analog of the cube, or the Tesseract.
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Cymatics is the study of wave phenomena. It is typically associated with the physical patterns produced through the interaction of sound waves in a medium.

A simple experiment demonstrating the visualisation of cymatics can be done by sprinkling sand on a metal plate and vibrating the plate, for example by drawing a violin bow along the edge, the sand will then form itself into standing wave patterns such as simple concentric circles. The higher the frequency, the more complex the shapes produced, with certain shapes having similarities to traditional mandala designs.

Next up is the unique design shape in the new setup.  This immediately reminded me of another device I have seen.

This is an experiment by Chris Hardeman.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/gravshld.htm- This is the creator's site.
http://rakudragon.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!9217E98F7966F901!532.entry- This is a 'fan' site with info compiled in one place.
(http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/christst.jpg)

This was Hardeman's inspiration:
(http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/barbury91.jpg)
(http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pc9IE-zKhqZt1RfsdJPTAD4rCBj75BJa6bxz_SP7ms-o-2ASl7Kh9y78GxpULrk-ltdShw_093os)
(http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pc9IE-zKhqZskmN40dmxOow4CvmxUpIT-s1cBOxGbW89rGuSe_rLE40ZIhc6bvpRbVD7sZGpgCeg)

Still with me? :)  I feel that I came to a place where thinkers and people with open minds come to share information about creating the 'impossible'.  I hope I can be open with you and you'll hear me without an attachment to 'beliefs'.  This is about the science and not about the ideology.
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These are two videos that can also be found on the 'fan' site.  They come from http://www.cropcircleship.com.  They have recently opened a wiki format of their information.  http://www.cropcircleship.com/wiki/Main_Page

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5754670943097613356- An Introduction to the Crop Circle Ship
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-433288732754891412- Into the Watersphere

None of their information is set in stone, it's a work in progress.  This is why I feel it is relevant information and up for re-interpretation.  It's not really important who put the formations and patterns on the ground, but it is not coincidence that a large portion have a common theme to them.  This is what the videos are pointing out, some are possibly blueprints that can be used to build something.  They have done a lot of legwork in finding similarities and matching 'parts' between different formations.  If you approach their research with a fresh pair of eyes something might 'click' for you.  Their information is a suggestion, look at it in an unbiased fashion.

Now I mentioned that I did not care who put this 'information' on the ground as long as the 'information' is coherent and relates to other formations that also contain similar 'information'.  The reason I don't care who put it there is that it doesn't matter and I'll tell you why.  In fall of 2002 I saw a craft that is best known as a UFO or an OVNI depending on where you're from.  I saw the entire profile of the vehicle while standing in some guy's front yard as I was delivering pizzas.  It hovered stationary in the sky for about 3-4 seconds from when I first noticed it and then darted off to the right and was gone.  It had what looked to be 'windows' down the side with red light on inside the vehicle.  When it departed, there was streak of red light hanging in the sky (from the 'windows').  Now, we could debate on whether little green men were on board or whether it was a man made top secret vehicle but it doesn't matter.  What matters is that the 'impossible' is real and it didn't look to be 'out of this world' high-tech.  There was no sound during its hover or rapid acceleration, no sonic booms, no wind, no anything.

All I really care to know is how it was powered.  Is there a way to be pulling so much energy that there aren't enough places to put it so the best place to deposit this excess of energy is into electro-magnetic repulsion/attraction?  The reason I say this is the way in which the craft departed from a complete standstill, leaving a streak of light and emitting or creating no sound.  It looked like it pulled the place it wanted to go to itself rather than propelling itself there, like it was a rock loading itself into a slingshot, the rubber band being physical space/time.

You guys are not by any means wasting your time working on this over-unity project.  There will always be doubters, skeptics and people who don't believe the possibility of what you know to be worthwhile and real.  They are armchair quarterbacks that come from the "Show Me" state, providing little more than negative opinions derived from their personal ideology.

I'll leave you with a quote, I think it applies here.
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Regards and good luck,
Spoodily
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« Reply #177 on: March 26, 2008, 05:25:45 PM »
AMAZING work here guys


@Spoodily

I definitely think you are onto something .


@EM


I also think in terms of E field, A potential.  Thank you for your excellent patent analysis.


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Every Warrior of the Light has, at some time in the past, lied or betrayed someone.

Every Warrior of the Light has trodden a path that was not his.

Every Warrior of the Light has suffered for the most trivial of reasons. Every Warrior of the Light has, at least once, believed he was not a Warrior of the Light.

Every Warrior of the Light has failed in his spiritual duties.

Every Warrior of the Light has said 'yes' when he wanted to say 'no.'

Every Warrior of the Light has hurt someone he loved.

That is why he is a Warrior of the Light, because he has been through all this and yet has never lost hope of being better than he is.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #178 on: March 26, 2008, 05:28:16 PM »

Earl I have the 164's and 74's and I might have some bipolar tranny's around, but there should be a way to do this without chips.  Tesla would often run his coils in series - don't know if he tuned them.



Grumpy,
 that took guts and I respect that you have done your hardware homework and feel frustrations.

Please try to refrain from negative comments and keep them brief when you have valid information.
We all should not give up!
Thanks

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« Reply #179 on: March 26, 2008, 05:31:45 PM »
After further thought, contemplation, study and a healthy serving of Crow - I recant any and all derogatory comments, slanderous words, and challenges - and issue my humble apology to "spherics".



Darn!
This is what I atempted to quote in my last post.

 

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