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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 295508 times)

Offline Grumpy

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2008, 12:03:50 AM »
After further thought, contemplation, study and a healthy serving of Crow - I recant any and all derogatory comments, slanderous words, and challenges - and issue my humble apology to "spherics".

« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 02:58:43 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2008, 12:23:55 AM »
The info on irons NMR is below, "Bolt" kindly posted it on page two of this thread.

has symbol 57Fe   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has natural abundance 2.2   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has NMR frequency 3.231 MHz where 1H = 100 MHz; 2.3488 T   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has magnetogyric ratio 0.8661 ? 107 rad T-1 s-1   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has NMR receptivity 4.2 ? 10-3 where 13C = 1.00   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has relative NMR sensitivity 3.37 ? 10-5 where 1H = 1.00   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has nuclear magnetic moment μ = +0.09062294 nuclear magnetons with diamagnetic correction   has source: Fuller, G.H. 1976, Journal of Physical Chemistry Reference Data 5 835 'Nuclear Spins and Moments', 2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has nuclear spin I = 1/2- h/2Ï€   has source: Fuller, G.H. 1976, Journal of Physical Chemistry Reference Data 5 835 'Nuclear Spins and Moments', 2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has number of nucleons 57   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has number of neutrons 31   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has atomic mass 56.935395   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has uses isotopically enriched samples available for experimental purposes   2001-09-27 09:29:04.0
has uses Nuclear Magnetic Resonance


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2008, 01:06:33 AM »
The frequency should be a harmonic of the NMR of iron.

Which one, I wonder.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2008, 01:06:33 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2008, 01:09:59 AM »
     I don't see where the kick comes from unless one of the bifilar wires electrons  is riding one aetheric wave and the other conductors electrons  another wave.  And when spherics said the oscope was connected to both coils
I would assume the kick potential develops between the two conductors. This looks like a phase potential generated electrical signal to me.
    The insuing magnetic field would move it's magnetic flux density from undelayed signal wire to delayed signal wire fields.  So now we have a phase shifted magnetic field at high speed within the confines of the bifilar winding core.
What's next?
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 01:53:05 AM by sparks »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2008, 01:21:05 AM »
Quote
Who said the loop was open?

what do you mean?


I mean who ever said the collector is an "open loop"?  or that the control "wires" are open?

The collector could be a closed ring with wires attached at points where there is the greatest difference of potential.

Many of you are just clinging to this like blind leaches because you lack the ability to develop your own theories and experiment to those ends, so you grab hold of anything that comes along with that "new smell" only to repeat the same cycle over and over.

Why are you here?  I have not seen you post one photo or data of anything you have built?

You clearly think that most people on this site are sheep.  Admittedly a lot people on this forum have no formal training in electronics (why are they interested in FE then?!?), many have classical experience and want to look outside that.

Many are capable of learning and using existing theory, but you cannot expect everyone to be able to generate new theory.

All you ever seem to do is put people down.  I assume you know this as you chose the name "Grumpy".

If this is what you think, why do you bother posting here?

At the moment, I am here to see if "spherics" will pony-up or admit he hasn't built the device he describes.

I have posted a couple of photos but not many.  Most of my post have been links for various documents and articles to help fill in the many gaps in physics as a whole and not jsut electronics.  Why cloud the forum with things that don't work?  No need to see the same pictures of coils and circuits over and over, is there?  Scope shots are a dime a dozen unless you are trying to explain something.  I made several posts regarding "peristaltic induction" (like water through a hose) and ring resonators (never could get that damn thing tuned - but will try again) - no one else ever looked there for answers - most never even heard of them.  I've also made many post on other "not so well known" topics that have helped others get the creative juices flowing.

What have you posted, Dave?  Trick light bulbs and big coils.  You replication of the A-field stuff was good - kudos - you should explore that further.

Why must formal training in electronics be required for FE?  Haven't you seen the reports of cavitation pumps generating excess heat?  How dare I suggest a mechanical means to overunity - what blasphemy!  Compression and decompression - that's what occurs in a cavitation pump and everything else to various degrees.



At the end of one of sms vids he shows an SM17 horseshoe. Open ended. I saw it once and can't find it again.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2008, 01:21:05 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2008, 01:34:20 AM »
@spherics,

I am unsure if your rendering was meant to be as proportional as much as it was conceptual.  Hoping so, I have placed some circles along edges nearly parallel with the viewing plane in order to get my arms around the overall proportionality of the coil assembly.

Please feel free to correct all of my false assumptions listed at the bottom of the image below.

EDIT: Image removed.  My initial assumption was not correct.

The tetrahedral diagram was to show the orientation of the coils to help clarify my description.
What is important is the 4 coils are identical both physically and electrically and
are oriented at the exact angle as per the tetrahedral diagram and
are placed equidistant from the center.
Tao diagrams are spot on and show how for a given size of coil where you can place the toroid pick up.

@spherics,

Thank you for getting back to me on this one.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 05:02:17 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2008, 01:42:18 AM »
And when spherics said the oscope was connected to both coils ...

I think this is a typo.  I think it should read, "oscillator."  It fits the context much better:

An oscill[ator] was connected to both COPPER coils...

EDIT: Carry on.  :-[
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 02:44:06 AM by Rosphere »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2008, 01:42:18 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2008, 02:01:21 AM »
@ Rosphere

  I think the oscilliscope was looking for voltage potential between the two bifilar copper conductors.  He was describing SM's tuning technique.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2008, 02:18:57 AM »
Just my 2 cents - I hope the builders noticed the patent on saturable inductive switching.

Takes care of risetime as well as upping voltage, making FET drive easier (For you EE's).

Phase delay per coil if Double feeding bifiler may need to float around a little during freq. adj.

A little note:  As a real old-school hacker, the new theories are more along real world results that I have seen.  I never post unless I have results, but I had to mention that little patent.  Nice to see that all the required info will soon be avail.  If this setup actually functions well, I will post actual results, but as one of the "shady, want to stay out of public knowledge, flaky, weirdo" type people, it took me a month to just be sure I could post without worry.  If I ever get GOOD data to post, I will.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2008, 02:18:57 AM »
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2008, 02:40:06 AM »
@ Rosphere

  I think the oscilliscope was looking for voltage potential between the two bifilar copper conductors.  He was describing SM's tuning technique.

@sparks,

Perhaps.  I have already attempted replications of the SM design.  At this point I could care less if it actually read, "An orangutan was connected to both COPPER coils."   :D

I am just going to go ahead and correct my prior post so as not to further confuse.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2008, 03:46:08 AM »
Hmm,

Since no one has commented on it, I presume that either all are overlooking the fact that sperics' design calls for coils in an orientation contrary to what is shown in the videos and described in SM's notes, OR I'm dumb, and everyone else has already figured out how to make spherics' coils fit in SM's ring?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2008, 04:08:06 AM »
@poynt99 - Yes, I noticed that too, but was afraid to say anything for fear of being flamed. The TPU forums have become rather hostile of late.

@spherics - I recall reading a paper several years ago that suggested such an arrangement to provide containment of an artificial singularity in a vacuum. The trick would balancing the field densities against the natural gain of the singularity to maintain containment integrity, hence only theoretical at this time. I believe this same paper suggested it as a possible anti-gravity solution, or more precisely, a zero-inertia region. Do you see related potentials in your design?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2008, 04:21:39 AM »
Hi buzz-ard.

Thanks for speaking up.

You haven't lived until you've been flamed on one of these forums. Everyone gets it at least once.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2008, 04:54:33 AM »
Let's all put on our Nomex shorts...




« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 02:58:02 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2008, 05:42:25 AM »
Hmm,

Since no one has commented on it, I presume that either all are overlooking the fact that sperics' design calls for coils in an orientation contrary to what is shown in the videos and described in SM's notes, OR I'm dumb, and everyone else has already figured out how to make spherics' coils fit in SM's ring?


Perhaps you missed what spherics was trying to get across.

He stated that SM's coil config, along with Bob, Marinov, etc. Their coil orientations are inefficient, and since all the devices are tapping this same energy source, why not tap this energy source as efficiently as possible. That is what spherics's setup is, a much more efficiently designed system, and that is why the coils are oriented differently...

Just look at these quotes from spherics's first post:

"Now I'm telling you the practical theory on how to use the ether. Steven Mark never did understand exactly why things worked. His coils are not optimum but never-the-less indirectly generate what my four coils will achieve."
and
"Now those of you on the ball will no doubt see why Bob Boyce, Marinov, GiantKiller et al. have had extraordinary results. In these designs the coils are pointing horizontal and not angled upwards, and the top vertical coil is created by wrapping around all of the three coils. As the vertical coil is not identical to the other 3 this creates problems which is why DC they feed into this coil; and the other coils need to be fed with high energy pulses. It is not optimum and neither are their results."

 

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