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Offline CTG Labs

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #135 on: March 25, 2008, 05:19:43 PM »
Many of you are just clinging to this like blind leaches because you lack the ability to develop your own theories and experiment to those ends, so you grab hold of anything that comes along with that "new smell" only to repeat the same cycle over and over.

Why are you here?  I have not seen you post one photo or data of anything you have built?

You clearly think that most people on this site are sheep.  Admittedly a lot people on this forum have no formal training in electronics (why are they interested in FE then?!?), many have classical experience and want to look outside that.

Many are capable of learning and using existing theory, but you cannot expect everyone to be able to generate new theory.

All you ever seem to do is put people down.  I assume you know this as you chose the name "Grumpy".

If this is what you think, why do you bother posting here?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #136 on: March 25, 2008, 05:42:43 PM »
     @emdevices

            Nice pic.  I was wondering if we replace the reluctance iron wire coil with an aircoil with a weakly polarized magnet at one end.  This way the reluctance of the core will be effected by any magnetic field changes in the ambient and the timing become phased with this ambient magnetic field.  May be real tricky though getting just enough flux density so perhaps a wire with a little dc current so you can adjust the core flux.  Just a thought I had a couple of days ago trying to design a sensor for the ambient magnetic field change.  I just want a look at SM's pulsating magnetic field on an oscope.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #137 on: March 25, 2008, 06:48:29 PM »
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Who said the loop was open?

what do you mean?


I mean who ever said the collector is an "open loop"?  or that the control "wires" are open?

The collector could be a closed ring with wires attached at points where there is the greatest difference of potential.

Many of you are just clinging to this like blind leaches because you lack the ability to develop your own theories and experiment to those ends, so you grab hold of anything that comes along with that "new smell" only to repeat the same cycle over and over.

Why are you here?  I have not seen you post one photo or data of anything you have built?

You clearly think that most people on this site are sheep.  Admittedly a lot people on this forum have no formal training in electronics (why are they interested in FE then?!?), many have classical experience and want to look outside that.

Many are capable of learning and using existing theory, but you cannot expect everyone to be able to generate new theory.

All you ever seem to do is put people down.  I assume you know this as you chose the name "Grumpy".

If this is what you think, why do you bother posting here?

At the moment, I am here to see if "spherics" will pony-up or admit he hasn't built the device he describes.

I have posted a couple of photos but not many.  Most of my post have been links for various documents and articles to help fill in the many gaps in physics as a whole and not jsut electronics.  Why cloud the forum with things that don't work?  No need to see the same pictures of coils and circuits over and over, is there?  Scope shots are a dime a dozen unless you are trying to explain something.  I made several posts regarding "peristaltic induction" (like water through a hose) and ring resonators (never could get that damn thing tuned - but will try again) - no one else ever looked there for answers - most never even heard of them.  I've also made many post on other "not so well known" topics that have helped others get the creative juices flowing.

What have you posted, Dave?  Trick light bulbs and big coils.  You replication of the A-field stuff was good - kudos - you should explore that further.

Why must formal training in electronics be required for FE?  Haven't you seen the reports of cavitation pumps generating excess heat?  How dare I suggest a mechanical means to overunity - what blasphemy!  Compression and decompression - that's what occurs in a cavitation pump and everything else to various degrees.


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #137 on: March 25, 2008, 06:48:29 PM »
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Offline CTG Labs

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #138 on: March 25, 2008, 06:55:28 PM »
Grumpy,

What I meant by electronics, or classic training...  If you do not have classical training in any science field, how are you to notice something you find during experimentation as odd?  How to recognize the odd, if you do not know the norm as it were?

I do wonder why/how people with no formal training get in to FE?  If I had not studied electronics at college I would not have learnt about how electricity behaves and then started to wonder if it can behave in other ways and started experimenting.

Further to your mention of my A field tests, I have removed my website for now.  Looking back I realized what a load of crap my previous research was and what I have learned in the years since, and what I did not know back then!


D.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #139 on: March 25, 2008, 07:39:49 PM »
Grumpy,

What I meant by electronics, or classic training...  If you do not have classical training in any science field, how are you to notice something you find during experimentation as odd?  How to recognize the odd, if you do not know the norm as it were?

I do wonder why/how people with no formal training get in to FE?  If I had not studied electronics at college I would not have learnt about how electricity behaves and then started to wonder if it can behave in other ways and started experimenting.

Further to your mention of my A field tests, I have removed my website for now.  Looking back I realized what a load of crap my previous research was and what I have learned in the years since, and what I did not know back then!

D.

Ed Leedskalnin had no classic training.

Walter Russell had no classic training.

Though we take different paths, we are all learning and growing.

If you like we can stop the bickering and discuss spherics posts.




« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 03:04:35 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #140 on: March 25, 2008, 07:57:24 PM »
Very interesting. 
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 03:05:08 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #141 on: March 25, 2008, 08:55:13 PM »
@all

While you may doubt it, I believe that Spherics has handed the TPU to you on a plate. I find it ironic that based on my assessment of the way technology is progressing outside of this forum, by the time it has been replicated here it will be old news. I have not posted much recently since, as I think you will learn, the utility of such action is becoming increasingly questionable.

Things are afoot in the real world and there are indicators that the suppression of free energy technology by those in the know is likely to cease very soon, partly because they live on the earth too and will suffer the same environmental fate as us if free energy does not become commonly available, and also because the genie while not completely out of the bottle, has indeed escaped and cannot be put back in. In fact it would not surprise me if disclosures of a nature similar to Spheric's do not become very common. I am not implying that Spherics is involved in such action, just that it is taking place.

Those with the capability to mass produce such devices by default already have the upper hand. Built it, and they will come or by it in K-Mart if that is easier (which it invariably is, unless you can get it on a shopping channel). Supply and demand. Also who is better placed to commercialise a technology than those who suppressed it in the first place.

Stealing a line from Sun-Tzu 'Every battle is won or lost before it is joined' and I hate to say it Gentlemen but this battle was lost before it was joined a long time ago (unfortunately for Tesla). However there was a previous battle joined prior to the one by which those who suppressed this technology believe they will win, and they will discover in 2012 when the final peaceful conclusion is reached that they lost it  approximately 75,000 years ago! Its a bitch being negatively orientated in a positively biased solar system. So if one chooses to take dualistic sides you could say that the side of Love and Freedom will conquer, anway!  ;)

A - In a holographic universe everything is smoke and mirrors!

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #142 on: March 25, 2008, 09:12:17 PM »
Nice @acerw! I agree. Could you elaborate on other places online to research these technologies?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2008, 09:41:06 PM »
@acerw,

The "controllers" who are manipulating people and nations against one another are too arrogant to think about the Earth as their own source of life because they think they will always be safe. If they do let this technology out it would only be because they know the idiots that get manipulated can kill each other more cheeply and efficiently and hey presto, over-population solved! You are dealing with a mind who's mantra is "divide and rule".
If you always keep that in mind then you can protect yourself from their ploys.
We are constantly told that the oil is running out and the global warming crap. Don't believe either. How do you think people felt 10000 years ago when the ice really started to melt? I really don't know about 2012. If you ask me, we will still be here bickering about this damned coil.

Having said that, I would still like to build a working TPU!

AM

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2008, 09:45:48 PM »
@singerxyz

Apologies, perhaps my meaning was not clear, the indicators to which I was referring were in relation to a change that there appears to be taking place in the policy towards disclosure of free energy to the general public. A particular indicator of this trend is a 'rumoured' recent closed session UN meeting where it was suggested to member nations that such a course of action would be expedient. It makes sense since if the technology which we all know has been suppressed is outed through official sources such as University R&D or other Government or Large Corporate funded institutions then it can more easily be controlled, even if it cannot be patented due to prior art.

Oh, and if you haven't seen this, take a look, its a bit off topic but shows how fast things are progressing in the open, I did not think a technology such as this would exist anytime soon, a great step (pun intended):

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=3203

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2008, 09:58:24 PM »
@AhuraMazda

Divide and Rule is not their strategy, history shows otherwise. 'They' have always survived by funding both sides of a War and living off the spoils to be made by that, and by charging to cleaning up afterwards. It also pays to manipulate the economies of the nations involved at the same time in order to maximise profits. If you control the division or more ideally engineered it in the first place, or enhanced it, then those who seek to Divide and Rule will also fall victim to your strategy. A simple rule is to control the whole arena, another thing Sun-Tzu taught, this comes from knowing your enemy and good intelligence, which 'They' obviously have.

'They' need others to work for them and the Earth is a suitable environment in which to control them, its total destruction would negate this possibility. Though speculation exists that 'They' may wish to pollute a large part of it or depopulate the majority of it to make this task easier. Though failing this, I think it is fair to assume that 'They' have the technology to move their operation to other sphere's, however they would still need people/sheeple/drones for a time at least until they can become fully self-sufficient on a personal level without the need to resort to others for anything. 2012 says otherwise even if any of this was partially realised before then.

It is in our very nature that while we can be manipulated we cannot be controlled, and if manipulation occurs there is always a larger context in which it can be seen to be a part of the cosmic dance in which Free Will is always preserved. So I do not fear. In my earlier post I said Love and Freedom will conquer, I think perhaps 'endure' would have been a better term.

I agree in 2012 the bickering about the coil will continue, though in all honesty come 2013 it really won't be important. To be clear I do not believe anything bad will happen, just that the context in which a free energy device will be viewed will make its existence somewhat irrelevant. After all, all energy is free in nature and since everything is made of natures energy, which will become abundantly clear then, the worth of free energy will be considered the same as a gold coin in a city made of gold.

I apologise for the off-topic interlude, normal programming now resumes... Coil Wars Part II - Reinventing of the Invention.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2008, 10:58:19 PM »
Well before we return to "Coil Wars"
The only thing I'd like to add @acerw is that we are all part of the collective, and if it is "inevitable" that free energy technologies are going to come out anyway, it is in because of the efforts of people like you and Grumpy and Spherics (and maybe even little folk like me :-)

...and the war was therefore won.


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2008, 11:11:47 PM »
I do not understand why people want to make things so complicated.
In this thread at
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg83397.html#msg83397

I gave the simple way to do things.  For precise timing, one does not use counters and state decoders, nor microcontrollers, nor DSP.

One uses a shift register where all stages are clocked synchronously.  Nothing else.

Simple, cheap, fast.
A 74HC164 will clock at 50 MHz or higher.  If you build the shift register from discrete NXP 74AHC74 dual F/Fs, it will clock to 170 MHz or higher.  I have seen SMD gates oscillate up to 400 MHz.

Use the KISS principle to go farther, faster.
A HC or AHC IC can directly trigger a bipolar transistor avalanche generator giving HV pulses with sub-nanosecond rise times.  Only a handful of standard components are necessary.  Impossible to build it any simpler or faster, or less expensive.

Tesla said use the highest voltage swing you can, and most importantly the fastest transition times.  Follow him or stay behind.

Earl

Circuitry :
Make a decoded digital count to 3 and reset counter w/CMOS or equl.
Phase the circuit dimensionaly too.

Looking at the picture, the duty cycle of coil A is about 31% (8/26). That means you could for example use a 74HC4017 with Q9 connected to MR so that it divides by 9. Then Q1, Q4 and Q7 provide pulses for coils X, Y and Z, and for coil A you use an OR gate like the 74HC4075 (or 3 diodes and a resistor) connected also to Q1, Q4 and Q7 to get about a 33% duty cycle. Then you could use a programmable clock generator module based on CY27EE16 or ICS307 or similar that is connected to a PC to generate exact frequencies, or use some other higher frequency oscillator .

At room temperature the HC4017 might be fast enough for a divide by 9, but these are relatively high frequencies, and the OR gate also introduces a slight delay/phase shift. Dividing by 3 would allow to generate a higher output frequency but it would require to form short pulses from long pulses.

Most flexible would probably be to have a microcontroller or DSP that has several programmable counters that are directly connected to output pins. That would allow to change the duty cycle and also to compensate for hardware tolerances and especially if its connected to a PC all parameters could be recorded and reproduced exactly and also of course control them dynamically.

Maxim even has an IC (DS1094L) that can generate 3 phases but it might not be flexible enough.

Thanks Earl,
I got the Linear DC726a-b proto generaqtor 1k - 68mhz. I was thinking of using 3. But then I decided to divide down so I solve the sync hassles.

--giantkiller.

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« Reply #148 on: March 25, 2008, 11:27:15 PM »

Earl I have the 164's and 74's and I might have some bipolar tranny's around, but there should be a way to do this without chips.  Tesla would often run his coils in series - don't know if he tuned them.

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« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2008, 11:51:30 PM »
      @acerzw

  Must be why all the tunnel digging going on and haarp arrrays on top.  Tesla's Wardenclyffe underground massive metal inductor resonating with his ionosphere maker secondary.  They might be doing the same thing but on a much grander scale.

 

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