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Author Topic: Complete information on working SM style device.  (Read 279008 times)

Offline archon79

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2008, 08:17:21 AM »

Spherics theory seems more logical than every other thing I have read in this forum. But the proof will be in the pudding.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #121 on: March 25, 2008, 10:40:39 AM »
Just a thought about capacitance:
Maybe the reason the toroid is so deep, almost a tube, is that it contains plates like a laden jar for capacitance. This would also allow it to start without the use of batteries because capacitors tend to recharge themselves somewhat.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #122 on: March 25, 2008, 10:57:15 AM »
billions of people heating up the planet with OU devices is not in the interest of the human race.  In fact, it could cause their extinction from heat death.

 We already do it every day- aside from heating houses and the heat that cars produce, consider just street lights alone- you could probably boil water on those bulbs!

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Offline Earl

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #123 on: March 25, 2008, 11:12:25 AM »
billions of people heating up the planet with OU devices is not in the interest of the human race.  In fact, it could cause their extinction from heat death.
We already do it every day- aside from heating houses and the heat that cars produce, consider just street lights alone- you could probably boil water on those bulbs!

Exactly, and with centralized power distribution, half of the energy is burnt up in the resistance of the transmission lines.  Mankind has in effect built up a gigantic planetary toaster.  How intelligent.

Earl

Offline CTG Labs

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2008, 11:21:49 AM »
You are all already compressing and decompressing the aether all the time - you just don't know it.

PROVE IT!

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« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2008, 11:21:49 AM »
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Offline sparks

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #125 on: March 25, 2008, 01:23:13 PM »
   Spherics posts are all very interesting but what he is describing is virtual matter.
(I was in a bookstore and saw a book about this subject I'm going back now)

  The tetrahedral packing described in his first post is mother nature's ammoniom ion.   It is a very very resilient molecule.  Problematic for human waste treatment plants because of it's tenacity.  It's hydrogen bonds are used by microrganisms as fuel  (carbon isn't the only thing that burns).

   My question to him: Is there a better safer way to collect aether energy short of risking the creation of unstable virtual matter?  His atom bomb picture was not included in his post for kicks.  The coaxial triggers could have been detonating explosives but who gives a shit the main point was their timed detonation compresses the aether and she pushes back big time.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #126 on: March 25, 2008, 01:37:09 PM »
@Earl,
billions of people heating up the planet with OU devices is not in the interest of the human race.  In fact, it could cause their extinction from heat death.
We already do it every day- aside from heating houses and the heat that cars produce, consider just street lights alone- you could probably boil water on those bulbs!

Exactly, and with centralized power distribution, half of the energy is burnt up in the resistance of the transmission lines.  Mankind has in effect built up a gigantic planetary toaster.  How intelligent.

Earl
I think the sun shines down on the earth with the heat/energy of about 1KW/sq.M depending on you distance from the equator.
OU devices mean free unlimited electricity, so out goes the ICE in your car, gas/oil boiler to heat your house.
Cars will be powered by efficient electric motors, houses heated/cooled by electric heat pumps tapping into geo-thermal (seasonal heat exchage both ways with the ground).
So I suggest things will change for the better.

@Spherics,
Have you got any results from experiments regarding your tetrahedron style TPU setup that you can share with us?
I was wondering if a magnetic compass placed in the centre would spin as a result of the rotating magnetic field.

Regards
Rob

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #126 on: March 25, 2008, 01:37:09 PM »
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Offline Grumpy

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #127 on: March 25, 2008, 02:33:21 PM »
see attached for reference:

Francis Nipher published a collection of his research here:

http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&dq=francis+nipher&id=Q_oLAAAAYAAJ&as_brr=1&output=html

There is probably only one or two people on this forum that will see that book as the treasure it really is.

« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 03:02:18 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2008, 03:05:23 PM »
@Earl

Mentorship? Come-on, give me a break will y'a. This is one idea over 1000 that has come on this board and many others have more details then this.

Coils - Dimensions, winding, wire size, wire type, resistance values, resonance response, etc.
Toroid - Dimensions, winding, wire size, wire type, resistance value, etc.
Rotation - Speed, frequency, amplitude, type, drive style, etc.

Like I said from the start, the idea is smart, but it does not deserve requests for mentorship. lol. It has only opened a whole realm of R&D required to get it to work, if in fact it will work.

An idea is just that. It's always great to have them and if anyone tried to build it and it does not work, you can always say it was faulty R&D. lol

Grumpy is just looking out for our asses here because we have all had our fair share of what @spherics so eloquently calls "Bunkum". We've seen it, we've done it.

So if @spherics has anything CONCRETE to show, then by all means do it so we can cut through the proverbial fat. If not, say it also so we know from the start.

Otherwise this still remains an idea and surely not worth mentoring.


@spherics

I think Grumpy has made the main point. Do you have something to show?

As for the 3D sound, it is a documented fact that this was a scam. Otherwise where is it. It is also a documented fact that many investors have been shafted royally by SM, otherwise where is the device that they should so rightly own. lol. You can paint what you wish, it will not change the canvas.

Your quotes:
1) The SM designs all work on the same set of principles. A pulse into a coil generates an expanding magnetic field.

2) The magnetic field comes into being by an underlying patterning of the ether.

3) It is a cascade action on the part of the ether that causes the EFFECT of an expanding magnetic field.

4) If you then cause a second magnetic field to expand through the same space as the already expanding magnetic field, a specific cascading action, apattern is setup in the ether which is the EQUIVALENT of a magnetic field and has many of the characteristics of a magnetic field.

5) By this I mean it will interact with metals, and cause the EFFECT of a current, IF the field is moving across the metal.  I will refer to this field as a COMP field from now on.

6) But please be clear this COMP field is in addition to the expected magnetic field. This COMP field, a patterning in the ether, is dampened and effectively nulled by magnetic metals. This is why if you are using an iron core in the coils named control coils you will never get a working TPU.
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Items 1-6: You are saying all this with so much assurance that you have first hand knowledge of how the TPU works. Do you have proof of the effect on the ether or will this remain another mystery that we have to read between the lines?

Items 1 and 4: You can pulse into one coil and require energy, pulse into a second coil "in parallel" and you will need double the energy, pulse into a third coil in parallel and you will need triple the energy and so on. So where did all this energy come from? lol

Your description is analogous to force feeding a baby. There is no mention in it regarding flyback capture or any other form of energy retrieval that would give this any chance of surviving one second of operation, let alone producing OU so this again "could" be some eloquent "bunkum".

Sorry for being so rough but you have to understand that you are not talking here about a door-knob, you are talking OU production and many here know the scoop.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2008, 03:05:23 PM »
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Offline CTG Labs

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #129 on: March 25, 2008, 03:16:16 PM »

see attached for reference:

Francis Nipher published a collection of his research here:

http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&dq=francis+nipher&id=Q_oLAAAAYAAJ&as_brr=1&output=html

There is probably only one or two people on this forum that will see that book as the treasure it really is.

If this is insufficient - prove it yourselves - I'm not the one claiming I have "Complete information on working SM style device".


You consider that 100% proof do you?

Yes, interesting to read, but no more proof than anything else on paper, with no measurements or diagrams, etc.

You just said, if you want proof, prove it to yourself, yet you expect Spheric to prove it to you?

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #130 on: March 25, 2008, 04:29:20 PM »
Have you guys realized that what Spherics advocates is the same as the Molina-Marinez patent?   

And if you read what Molina said on this forum, you will see it doesn't work.   He could be lying to us of course, but others have tried it and it doesn't work.

Steven in the first video tells us in such unmistakable terms,  that his device get's the energy from the magnetic field which has an "inherent frequency and we basically tune into that" etc..   This is nothing more than a "radio receiver" with a magnetic loop antenna, and I've done a lot of research into this and the resistance of the antenna is too high compared to the radiation resistance, so he must of discovered something new, but I'm convinced it's very close to this.  Then he talks to us in the Mannix correspondence about frequencies that are related to the circumference,  and again, this fits in with an antenna,  that's when the loop antenna works great and some directionality occurs, so the phenomena he discovered probably started out with a radio like receiver, then he understood what was happening by summation of fields and designed better bigger units.

EM


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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #131 on: March 25, 2008, 04:34:47 PM »
I am not the one offering complete information on TPU-like devices.

 I only challenged him to prove his theory - which in a roundabout way is doing him a favor.  He hasn't produced the device, for if he had he would not be starting this thread in the first place.  It is one thing to understanding the operation of something - it is quite another to actually build it.

Nipher's work is detailed enough to reproduce his work should you feel the need.  It is no less than a few meter readings on a poor quality video, a light bulb glowing at the end of a wire, and power tools operating from a large inverter - yet everyone accepts that as "proof".

I thought by now that compression and decompression of the aether was common knowledge - guess not.

Many of you are just clinging to this like blind leaches because you lack the ability to develop your own theories and experiment to those ends, so you grab hold of anything that comes along with that "new smell" only to repeat the same cycle over and over.

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #132 on: March 25, 2008, 04:37:14 PM »
Have you guys realized that what Spherics advocates is the same as the Molina-Marinez patent?   

And if you read what Molina said on this forum, you will see it doesn't work.   He could be lying to us of course, but others have tried it and it doesn't work.

Steven in the first video tells us in such unmistakable terms,  that his device get's the energy from the magnetic field which has an "inherent frequency and we basically tune into that" etc..   This is nothing more than a "radio receiver" with a magnetic loop antenna, and I've done a lot of research into this and the resistance of the antenna is too high compared to the radiation resistance, so he must of discovered something new, but I'm convinced it's very close to this.  Then he talks to us in the Mannix correspondence about frequencies that are related to the circumference,  and again, this fits in with an antenna,  that's when the loop antenna works great and some directionality occurs, so the phenomena he discovered probably started out with a radio like receiver, then he understood what was happening by summation of fields and designed better bigger units.

EM

Who said the loop was open? 

Edit:
SM likes the words "windings" and "rings".

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #133 on: March 25, 2008, 04:52:52 PM »
   I'm forever reinventing the wheel.   ???

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Re: Complete information on working SM style device.
« Reply #134 on: March 25, 2008, 04:58:46 PM »
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Who said the loop was open?

what do you mean?

sparks,  thanks for reinventing the wheel :)

@ all,

Here's what I think spherics is describing as the kicker coil.   

EM

 

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