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Author Topic: Thank GOD!  (Read 27535 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2008, 03:25:23 PM »
I was following pretty good on your last post till you got to #11 Now lets look at something different  Chet

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Re: Thank GOD!
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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2008, 03:29:36 PM »
cool, you listed some problems, some are laughable, the islam one in particular...

however, you supplied NO LOGIC as to why why these problems can ONLY be solved by some imaginary god.
ie: spent nuclear fuel, put it in a rocket, send it towards the center of the galaxy, no divine intervention needed.
war? stop fighting over resources or ideals and dogma. this applies to your asinine statement about islam also.
capitol hill? citizenship is voluntary, organize people to renounce their citizenship. this applies to your comment about the illuminati as well.

yes yes aliens are everywhere, so are elves and dragons and hobgoblins even, i'm sure covert military has been battling them as well ;) LOL. i have read david icke also, doesn't mean i'm on the bandwagon. read the bible, doesn't mean i'm on the bandwagon, read marx and lenin too. doesn't mean i'm a pinko. by the way did "god" create these dna sucking reptilians? if so then their plan of our destruction or domination MUST be part of "gods" plan? if so aren't you defying "god"? if not created by god...well i'm sure you can see where i'm going with that.

all of these problems sans the alien invasion were created by mans FREE WILL and therefore are man's responsibility to fix. i believe in personal responsibility not some big brother or big government or big god that should fix everything and make it all better and tuck me in at night.

its time to say hey "god/government/personal savior" i'm the boss.

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2008, 03:34:43 PM »
Well, you know we all have free will, and freedom of speech.
I put in my 2 cents.  It's your right to ignore it.
Have a nice life...

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Re: Thank GOD!
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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2008, 03:46:00 PM »
yes on that i will agree, we do all have free will, freedom of speech? well i wouldn't say we ALL have that.

i was just putting my 2 cents out there along with yours, its your right to ignore logic i guess.

have a nice life...? does that mean you are dropping out of this conversation to save face? you still havent addressed the logic behind your claims, you have provided something more specific than just "problems" which is good, but i still missed the part where you backed those problems up with some logic as to why they are ONLY solvable by divine intervention. if you were dropping out to save face, i guess i can respect that also.

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2008, 03:53:07 PM »
I agree with z.monkey here....  I also believe in God , but not in organized religion (I think it's used to control people).

I think God wants us to succeed in getting free energy for everyone.   Also I think it's fine if you don't believe in God, that is up to each person. Please let's not attack each other over this, we should focus on the goal of getting a fully documented free energy system to the world.


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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 03:55:37 PM »
uhh attacks? where do you see one of those?

he made some claims, i asked for some specifics and logic to support them.
he responded with a list of specifics, still waiting on the logic...

i see no attacks, if you do could you please be more specific?

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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 03:59:30 PM »
I wasn't trying to blame anyone either way; of course you have a right to question someone's claim.  I do not agree with z.monkey's claim about Islam either.   However, I just mean we've got more important things to do than argue over stuff like this, that's all.  We are running out of time.

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Offline Bulbz

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 04:08:17 PM »
You obviously missed the part where I said I don't believe in church, or religion.

It is man that made a total mess of this world.

What is coming will make the Old Testament look like a happy fun time.

GOD is the ONLY way, and I KNOW this because my Father,
He who art in heaven, told me...

I didn't read this somewhere are regurgitate it on this forum...

GOD loves you too, brother...


True... But you got one thing slightly wrong... It's not exactly Man that made a total mess of this world, it is mainly because the governments have complete control over whatever we are allowed to do.

To put things into perspective... I'm not sure how the transport system works in other countries... But I will try to get one thing straight.

Over here we have a document that is given to us when we own a car, motorbike, van, etc. Now... Somewhere on this document we have a section that indicates what type of fuel the vehicle runs on. Also, once a year we have to have our cars fully tested (mechanically, and exhaust emmissions), over here this is called the MOT-Test.

Now... If I was by some chance lucky enough to find a solution to apply (Free-Energy Technology) to my motor car, I could not do so, because... 1) I would have to send back the V5 document to the DVLA, to tell them I have an alternative fuel source running my vehicle (but it is not a valid fuel source in their terms)... 2) I could not keep hush-hush about it, because they take note of the fuel type when a vehicle is submitted for the MOT-Test.

So there you go, the government controll what we can and cannot run our vehicles on, so it it the government who is to blame for the climate change (if any).

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 04:13:58 PM »
i got nothing but time ;)

and i do agree with you about the focus, which is partially why i created an account to reply to this thread. if i were to create a thread saying that we all need to pray to Zeus to give us the secret to his lightning bolts (the original spark-gap) ;) and solve some problems for us what do you think people would have thought? if you think god is gonna give you free energy, great! share it with all your friends who believe in "god", putting it in a forum like this to everyone well your gonna get some chuckles. thats just how it is. i think some of z. monkeys posts were pretty good and well thought out, except the ones where he is proselytizing.

waiting for divine intervention to bring us a more efficient and sustainable energy system is a long wait for a train that ain't coming.
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Offline Koen1

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2008, 04:18:29 PM »
I wasn't trying to blame anyone either way; of course you have a right to question someone's claim.  I do not agree with z.monkey's claim about Islam either.   However, I just mean we've got more important things to do than argue over stuff like this, that's all.  We are running out of time.

Ah, yes, I agree with that!
There are much more important things to do with our time, our energy, and our minds
than to sit around and bicker about who believes in what metaphysical paradigm and for what reasons,
and why one would or would not be better than another.
That said, I also completely agree with WilbyInebriated that most of the things on that list z.monkey posted
are in fact man-mande problems and can also be solved by man-made solutions, and we really don't need
a metaphysical entity to do that for us.
In fact, one of the reasons so many of those problems exist is that so many people trust that there is
some metaphysical "shepherd" entity that will protect us against ourselves, I think. If people put as
much energy into thinking rationally about problems in societey and the world at large and acting to
solve them as they put into the large scale religious practises of our world, then a lot less problems
would exist.

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2008, 04:49:05 PM »
My imaginary deity can kick your imaginary deity's ass!
Feynman is right we got way off topic and it's my fault.
So instead of kicking each others asses lets kick Big Oil's
ass.

I can't explain my statements with logic, it's a spiritual thing.
 :D

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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2008, 05:06:19 PM »
My imaginary deity can kick your imaginary deity's ass!
Feynman is right we got way off topic and it's my fault.
So instead of kicking each others asses lets kick Big Oil's
ass.

I can't explain my statements with logic, it's a spiritual thing.
 :D

LOL, cool, was hoping i hadn't upset you, your humor shows me i probably did not.

"I can't explain my statements with logic, it's a spiritual thing."
yes, i just wanted to hear you say it. its all good. spiritual fruits are far better than religious nuts ;)

you know what they say, "philosophy is questions that cannot be answered and religion is answers that cannot be questioned" ;) did they say that? or was it me?

love, peace and chicken grease

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2008, 06:14:24 PM »
Life is too short to take seriously...
Peas...

Offline Koen1

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2008, 06:21:04 PM »
Hey! Don't you dis the peas now!  >:(

Lol  ;)  :D

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Re: Thank GOD!
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2008, 06:44:50 PM »
Hi Wilby and so, look back the 6000 years in history. There was and is never a decade without problems. Mankind is in the hand of the devils as long their time is up (soon).

And I agree, beleaving is more than logic and thats good.

And i know, not everybody wants to (can) beleave in God, because of missing spirituality. It makes no sence to discuss this here. There are two sides opposite sides which will never come together. Never!

 

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