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Author Topic: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time  (Read 155766 times)

Offline Feynman

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2008, 07:57:17 PM »
Fantastic post Koen.  I will need to write more when I can sit down and study, I am at work at the moment. 

I do not think Bearden has the full picture.   But I think he probably has 50-90% correct.  The Dirac Sea was not invented by Bearden.  It was invented by Dirac . . . And Dirac shared the Nobel Prize with Schr?dinger in 1933 for "new productive forms of atomic theory".   However, I do not think Dirac had the full picture either.

Negative energy or not, we will only learn the full picture by experiment, disproving theories by methodical experimention. This is why this board is great, because people are actually doing new experiments.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2008, 09:05:26 PM »
Excerpt from Dirac's 1933 Nobel Prize lecture

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One would thus be inclined to introduce, as a new assumption of the
theory, that only one of the two kinds of motion occurs in practice. But this
gives rise to a difficulty, since we find from the theory that if we disturb
the electron, we may cause a transition from a positive-energy state of motion
to a negative-energy one
, so that, even if we suppose all the electrons
in the world to be started off in positive-energy states, after a time some of
them would be in negative-energy states.
Thus in allowing negative-energy states, the theory gives something which
appears not to correspond to anything known experimentally, but which we
cannot simply reject by a new assumption. We must find some meaning for
these states.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1933/dirac-lecture.pdf

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2008, 01:08:15 AM »
Nice digging Feynman ;)
I know the lecture but thanks for the link, now I have the pdf too. :)

I'd like to point out another sentence in that same passage you quoted:

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Thus in allowing negative-energy states, the theory gives something which
appears not to correspond to anything known experimentally

Which is a bit of a problem if you want to prove something is really "negative energy"
and not just appears to be negative or relatively negative...
But that not a very strong argument and I know it ;)

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, but which we cannot simply reject by a new assumption.
We must find some meaning for these states.

And this is what we're doing.

Perhaps I should point out that I am not opposed to the idea of
a negative energy carrier may exist, in case I gave that impression.
I'm fine with it, I just think there may very well be a different and much
less exotic explanation for the observed "negative energy"
in the Bedini devices.
Whether or not it really is "negative energy" is not as important
as achieving over unity, I think. ;)

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2008, 07:23:06 AM »
Thanks, my God.
All of u be the witness what i build.

Continue on experiment "Single AA bettery to light WHITE LED for long-long time"
The latest circuit, I have try.
I think , this is,  the longest led will lit on

See attach pict, I turn the third coil on bifilar coil as before, same length 1200 mm ( i don't count number of turn).

I forget put note capacitor on pict, there is 470 uf / 25v

Look at pict , posibbility connection:
    1.   D---F  and  E---G   
    2    D--G  and  E---F

I think , that depend on north -south of EM.
    +  for North
     -  for South

Connect north coil with single cable 1 meters as antenna (horizontal), and south to earth

I'm happy and now the battery very-very small drawn joule !

zon


(sorry.. for my poor english)
« Last Edit: March 13, 2008, 07:52:11 AM by zon »

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2008, 10:23:36 AM »
Thanks Zon!

Can't wait to see some readings on that circuit :)

Thanks for posting your experiments, they are very interesting,
and it is good to have someone like you here.

May I ask what exactly you mean when you say
"I turn the third coil on bifilar coil"?
Do you mean to say you used three bifilar coils,
or do you mean that you've wound three bifilar
coils around one core, or do you mean to say that you've
wound three wires around one core to get a sort of
3-wire "bifilar" so actually a "trifilar" coil?
I'm sorry for the questions, but I like to get things straight.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2008, 11:23:38 AM »
@koen1

I turn third coil (single coil) on the top bifilar coil or after i make turn bifilar coil.

The clue from my friends, oscilation between 30khz - 350 khz

zon.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2008, 06:22:41 PM »
@zon,

My first attemt to replicate your circuit.

The circuit uses 0,07 A @ 1,2 Volt (84 mW) and the LED is lit full bright.
My battery is a NiMeh 1600mA.

Groundloop.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2008, 06:27:07 PM »
wow just look at that knot of electrical wire :D

but it looks good, doesn't it?
Nice replication, certainly for a first attempt. :)

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2008, 07:15:25 PM »
@Koen1,

Somewhere inside that knot of wire there is a Ferrite toroid.  ;D

Groundloop.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2008, 07:41:18 PM »
@zon,

How much input current and at what voltage is your circuit using from your battery?

Groundloop.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2008, 08:17:15 PM »
@Groundloop

nicely done!

i can't wait until my toroids get here. 

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2008, 08:51:58 PM »
@Feynman,

Why wait? If you can find a non working PC power supply then you have your toroid.
I even found a MPS2222, the two diodes, a capacitor and the resistor in one of my
old (defect) power supply's.

Groundloop.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2008, 08:57:56 PM »
Good idea  ;D ;D ;D

Now I have enough experiments to fill the whole weekend!    All I need now is the favorite local beer.

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2008, 12:40:27 AM »
@All,

I removed the electrolytic capacitor. I found it unnecessary. My 1600mA NiMeh is now almost emty.
I started out with 1,2 Volt (Twelve hours ago) and is now down to 0,585 Volt on the battery.

Now the funny stuff. My ultra bright white LED is still lit. I reckon the light output from the LED is down
to 1/8 of full brightness. The oscillator is still running well. The voltage seems to have leveled out and is
steady on 0,585 Volt. The battery is not being drained anymore?

I will let the circuit run through the night. We will see tomorrow if the battery still holds a charge or not.

Groundloop.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 07:31:48 AM by Groundloop »

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Re: Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2008, 02:19:59 AM »
@all of u will make replicate

Please keep the ratio of Bedini SG diameter of coil , why i use SWG 38 (0.1520mm)  and SWG 35 (0.2130mm) for  bifilar coil.

Bedini SG Ratio  Trigger Coil / Power coil
         AWG 26 / AWG 23  =  0.4040 mm / 0.5740 mm = 0.7038

My Ratio :    SWG 38  / SWG 35 = 0.1520 mm / 0.2130 mm = 0.7136    (near to)   

The third coil, number of turn and diameter are free,  depend on the load u want put it.

If third coil generate/transform more voltage, maybe will burn your led.

With third coil , we can make high voltage gun :)

zon


Note: DANGER ! : Please keep of your eye not stare on the led.
        Put a papertape on the "glass" of LED for safety.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 04:22:10 AM by zon »

 

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