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Title: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 04, 2008, 02:05:37 PM
Part 1 through 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLOGLzbBTVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-b-lsPeXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdMOFhKgUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye0upxMdCnE

Very easy to replicate:
Microwave transformer and 30V/.80A ADP (pulsed) supply is used
One terminal of the supply is connected to one side of the primary of the transformer, on the other terminal of both the primary of the transformer and supply a connector is fastened. Connectors are corroded, here is where the sparks on the video's are formed. Secondary is not used.

edit:
Similar experiments posted earlier by IS:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3852.0;attach=16020
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3852.0;attach=16085
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: bw on March 05, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
That's cool.  I'm only a novice following free energy development and cheering on the movers and shakers in this so this might be a goofy question but since microwave ovens emit harmful rays and must have shielding, is there a chance this does the same?  Looks like your device is showing much higher out than in.   Well worth more study.   Very nice work.  There is a guy, I think his name is John Kansik or something like that who used something from microwave to produce hydrogen from sea water.  This guy was looking for new ways to target and kill only cancer cells with no harm to healthy cells and stumbled on the burning water thing.  I believe I remember his device used very little power to produce very hot flame.  His findings may dovetail into yours somehow, I don't know.  I think test are now underway with positive results for new cancer treatments using the device.  It involves injecting metal (gold etc.) which is attracted to cancer cells only.  His device heats up the metal killing only sick cancer cells, I think it uses resonance frequency tuned to specific metal or something similar.
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 05, 2008, 03:18:08 PM
;)

nice video....

altho there is more to it .....


hey i will repost my vid agin lol


it is the KICKBACK  that is being played with......  or if you like bemf or the real name ... RADIENT ENGERY .....


IST

here is the link post #29

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3852.15.html

@stephen CAN YOU FIX THE UPLOAD LIMIT
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 05, 2008, 03:46:40 PM
I take no credit for the video posted, it's not my work, but for understanding "ZPE engineering", simple experiments must be done which demonstrate the concepts, so that everyone get the same results, I think this setup does the job and is worth researching, though we need to figure out a way to measure. Measuring input is done by a wattmeter between supply and socket.

I'm going to watch your video, looks similar to the one above.
Microwave transformers are not harmful, the only radiation they (can) emit is UV, the only dangerous aspect is its ability to fry you. :P
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 05, 2008, 04:45:56 PM
 ;D 8)

WELL DONE !!!


congrats to the builder ......


stand up


is this the quick n ing  ;)


ist
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 05, 2008, 05:21:07 PM
What is done well?

the video I posted here you mean?

do you have more info about your experiments?







Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: helmut on March 05, 2008, 07:46:59 PM
This is quite impressing
After i saw the video i brought the Microweave to the slaughter
Helmut
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 05, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
Impressing indeed.
Also have disassembled a MW  ;D  but can't continue because I don't have the materials needed.

Similar experiments posted earlier by IS:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3852.0;attach=16020
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3852.0;attach=16085
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: helmut on March 05, 2008, 11:55:19 PM
Hi Alan
Can you add a sketch for the circuit.

would be very nice

helmut
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 06, 2008, 03:04:53 PM
youtube link

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=a_W8j5XT4_8

ozone generator circuit!!!


yes it is TESLAS WORK

IST
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: ramset on March 06, 2008, 03:46:47 PM
INNOVATION  is there any way to post  some brief  explanation of your vid the audio on my computer died yesterday  I've been following some of your recent work and am definatly a fan Chet
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: armagdn03 on March 06, 2008, 03:57:14 PM
come on now guys, the first videos were posted by a user who opened the Pyroclay thread a while back, I believe he went be RadiantNrg or something like that, same belongings in the room, fan, same electrolyser, same power supplies. Not that this should exclude anything, just don't get caught running in circles over things already covered.

What should be taken from these (which is not shown on this tread) is the sharp off pulses of his power supply (/l/l/l/l/l/l/l/l/ sawtooth), and the effects of a circuit controller along with both induction and capacitance.

This is not in itself a unity machine, if it were he would have shown it as such. These are all parts that could be used as such, but right now are not.
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 06, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
thankx bro


i am just the same as all of you

only thing is i wanted answers !!!!


so i went and found them

this is far from a working unit  ;)  but not that far  ;D

time to wize up  :)   

lets say it agin just cuz i can go to the master
......    ~~~~~~TESLA~~~~~~~



Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: ramset on March 06, 2008, 04:41:10 PM
i see smacks and wheels thanx Chet
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 06, 2008, 06:53:08 PM
@armagdn
yeah I discovered the thread you notice after I started this thread.

"things already covered"
I think, if there is such a thing as radiant energy, and this is one way to tap it, then this is an experiment worth researching and expanding further. Covering is not enough ;) more people should replicate because its simplicity.

Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 09, 2008, 03:24:37 PM
@helmut
Sorry no schematics, I hate drawing with mouse, it plays on my nerves. 

(written as comment on youtube)
Adp power supply has NOTHING on the positive. The negative is routed through the primary of the transformer (it's acting as an induction coil). Then I hook positive and negative to the cell...then motor in parallel. That's it!
These power supplies are regulated by a sensing loop....so once you "catch" resonance it will have a tendency to stay in resonance...the motor is like an auto tuning commutator! And the collapsing magnetic field is responsible for Extra energy!

Hope more people will replicate.
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 09, 2008, 04:07:06 PM
hello all

many people will not like me saying this.....

but i really dont think resonance plays as big a role as you all think ......

 ;)

ist
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 09, 2008, 04:18:18 PM
Why should we dislike it?
Why do you think resonance is not so important?
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 09, 2008, 04:37:30 PM
the general public will be delighted......

but the powers that be will NOT!!

SO FOR NOW IT REMAINS A TINY PUZZEL



like the keys to the puzzel that falls into place you could tell how we felt by the looks on our faces..


ist
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 09, 2008, 05:00:58 PM
that makes sense  ::)
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 09, 2008, 05:44:23 PM
well

there you have it lol

thanks bro ;)   

i knew you would play your cards ......


i will say no more right now ........

play around and see what you come up with ......

ist

Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 09, 2008, 09:26:57 PM
Soon.
gonna try to make the cap pulse-charger you've made.
you sure the cap isn't charged with regular charge? because pulses created with a manual switch are long.
Please talk straight and not like yoda.
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: bw on March 10, 2008, 01:49:59 AM
Innovation I'm sorry I gave credit to the wrong guy on page one.  I'm also a fan.  Thanks for sharing all your work and findings. 
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: Frederic2k1 on March 10, 2008, 05:23:08 PM
Please, can anyone explain to me, why video 1 is a proof for overunity ?

There are sparks at the connector on the not corroded side und other sparks on the corroded one. I see no difference or is it the difference in intensity ? So why should the intensity be lower at the not corroded side of the connector.

thank you
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: one on March 10, 2008, 07:12:42 PM
Please, can anyone explain to me, why video 1 is a proof for overunity ?

There are sparks at the connector on the not corroded side und other sparks on the corroded one. I see no difference or is it the difference in intensity ? So why should the intensity be lower at the not corroded side of the connector.

thank you

Frederic

In  my opinion it is not  absolute   proof of over unity ...........but it is pretty good evidence  of  OU.

In this  case it is all about the sparks .

To  really  understand  you  would have to spend a little time  making a few sparks  yourself.
I would say   that the easiest  way  that I can think of to make  a spark like  he  did on the corroded end   you could use some welding  equipment  set on the lowest settings.
Of course the  lowest settings of any welding  equipent uses MUCH more  power than he was using.

Another indication of   OU  ( radient energy )  is the color of the  sparks
The  little  sparks  on the clean metal are orange and have fairly  sharp edges .
The  sparks on the corroded end are  blue and the edges   are more diffused   


gary



Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 11, 2008, 03:14:37 PM
@one: exactly!

RF sparks are also blue right?
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: martinzurix on March 11, 2008, 03:33:05 PM
hee just burnig down iron like electrods in electrowelding dewice. there no extra energy
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: innovation_station on March 11, 2008, 05:04:16 PM
 ;) ::)

yep your right ....

nothing to see here folks .....


 :)

ist
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: alan on March 11, 2008, 05:08:06 PM
From our big friend innovation_station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD5xQmvb5ao

What is the (classical physics) explanation for the spark being bigger when shorted through a coil?
I don't know. Maybe it isn't excess energy.
Title: Re: Ultimate proof for OU/RE?
Post by: Prophmaji on April 04, 2008, 08:22:31 AM
This is very straight forward, and has to do with the time constants that exist within a given coil winding, vis-a-vis the 'speed of light' time that it takes the given wire to become aligned and conduct. Remember, you will not get conduction in a piece (LENGTH!) of wire immediately on connection to any system with voltage potential, unit the time frame of the 'speed of propagation' of that length of wire has been exceeded. Placing the wire under different loading considerations, with regards to 'mass surrounding it and permeating it' will change that time constant, a common consideration in, for example, simple coaxial wire design. See any simple proper coaxial wire advert in any sales brochure for that exact 'speed of light % on a given cable specification.

What I mean is if, in audio, you take a given coil, a large one, in the henry range..and place it  parallel on  a given audio signal reproduction rail, but leave one end of the coil OPEN, attached to NOTHING, there will be an interesting result.

You will create a specific frequency consideration  in the measured sweep response. This will occur, as a high frequency  where the 'time constant' of the  LENGTH of the coil's wire, combined with the speed of propagation down the wire as a factor of the speed of light, as is normally considered in electrical conductors-due to their design that will DISALLOW 'change' in the signal due to the 'static etheric mass contained in the coil'   'time constant' (the length consideration!)

What will happen, when the open ended conductor is tied to a rail voltage that is attempting to fluctuate.... the existing coil mass loading considerations, in the static sense of that etheric component.. will fire energy INTO the connected rail, in order to stop it from exhibiting CHANGE, as inductors DO (current mass)..but like a incredibly high speed CAPACITOR, who's considerations are solely based on the coil wire length..and it's inherent speed of propagation. This is outside of and NOT related specifically to it's inductive 'current flow active-connected' so called 'normal' applications.

So, in essence, you have a high speed capacitor in this application, that is etherically powered, not an inductor.

It's pure, standard physics as application in the math and theory department, supported by commonly known working theory.

For example, Joseph Newmans motor is a variant of that. The magnetic mass slows the propagation 'time constant rates' that are related to his wire LENGTHS in his coils ONLY..and these constants BECOME the characteristics of  the CAPACITIVE volume of the large 'seeming inductor' ---this provides the extreme grunt. They are big, but they work.

Once again, the capacitive storage of etheric (merely static background load) energy appears ONLY in the 'speed of light propagation factor of the LENGTH of the coil's wire. Not in it's current mass considerations as a 'usual application (series with  the load, under AC considerations, while conducting current).

Essentially..the free electrons, in any given electrical conductor, must polarize into a conductive state, before conductive considerations can take place..and current flows. Speed of propagation is important. Polarizing, as a system of  Pre Conduction Loading, is the speed constant . However, if you take it away..the polarization will cease, and you get a collapse back to relaxed alignment. We like to call that elastic pressure of pre conduction polarization.....voltage..potential The chemical analogy? Ionic charge.

I don't know about you..but it reminds me of crystals. Like in....every aspect.

Through etheric mass loading considerations of any given material and/or shape/volume, 'speed of propagation' within those two characteristics,  will dictate the resonant aspects that need be considered for the given device to work.

For example, water has it's own particular resonance considerations concerning the psychical, dimensional, etc. Importantly, as well, so does the interface point between the given metal and the water. The creation of the oxidative compounds and separative efficiencies can be viewed as the paths for determining this particular resonance frequency consideration.