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z.monkey

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Z-Machine
« on: March 03, 2008, 08:09:31 PM »
Howdy Y'all
If there is anything that gives credence to the ideas of overunity and free energy it is the Z-Machine at Sandia National Laboratories.

Wikipedia Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_machine

Sandia National Laboratories Link:
http://zpinch.sandia.gov/

Please follow these links and discover this amazing, and extraordinarily expensive machine.  This machine provides an output pulse of 290 TERAWATTS, in about 100 nanoseconds.  But the kicker to this story is that it only consumes an amount of power equivalent to power 100 average homes for 2 minutes (the article doesn't specify the supply power specifically.)  But what that does infer is that the power output is far greater than the input.  This is something they very carefully stepped all the way around.  This leads me to assume that the overunity devices are already in use but are deemed to dangerous or classified as a secret.  Another possibility is there are special interests which do not want these devices in the public domain because it would mean a certain end to their profits.

While I am not suggesting that this is the way to build an overunity device, it is certainly one way.

The Wikipedia article states that scientists at Sandia National Laboratories have used this machine to accomplish controlled fusion of deuterium.  Which in the Z-Machines present state is not sustainable, but it could be modified to accomplish this in the future.

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 11:49:06 AM »
 Interesting trail of bread crumbs there sparky (z).
 

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 04:54:44 PM »
Much too expensive and
no decentral energy supply.
Only there to suck more money from taxpayers pockets....
You can forget this.

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 05:07:08 PM »
I wasn't suggesting that this is a contender for the OU Prize.
More like this is a Frankenstein like freak of nature.  It does,
however, exemplify the concept of a small current can crack
open the flood gates and allow the real forces of nature through.
Sort of like the concept of valves or transistors where a small
current can control a much larger current.

But, it does make lots of cool sparks.... 

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 05:43:15 PM »
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But it could also represent a potential nuclear proliferation problem, because pure fusion weapons could be made if the little fission A-bomb used classically for ignition of H-bombs were replaced by a Z pinch detonator, fed with a compact pulsed power generator fast enough (a disc generator for example).[7]

Again something used by the military to try to make bigger and more deadlky weapons...

They should stop funding something like this.
It is just a waste of taxpayers money.
If they would have fed 60 Millions US$ into real free energy
research we would
already drive today magnetic motor or HHO gas fueled cars...

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 10:52:49 AM »
 I knew what you ment ZMonkey. I guess you also find the reaction to the link curious. Oh well.
 

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2008, 11:26:20 AM »
This machine provides an output pulse of 290 TERAWATTS, in about 100 nanoseconds.  But the kicker to this story is that it only consumes an amount of power equivalent to power 100 average homes for 2 minutes


The kicker is this is not OU, it is storing energy over a period of minutes and releasing that energy over a period of nanoseconds, thats an extremely short pulse compared to 2 minutes charge time.

nanoseconds, 1e-9 seconds , compare that with 2 minutes of energy consumed by 100 average homes.


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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2008, 11:45:59 AM »
So how many watts does 100 homes use for 2 minutes, who's homes are they using to average it by? With out knowing exactly what you are comparing it with for power put in compared to power out you can only assume it is under 100% or at 100%.
  Why mention the output in TW and not the input in KW? None the less the marx gen is interesting. Hard to do i would imagine.

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2008, 03:14:34 PM »
OK, Lets do the math...
We will convert the two power readings to Watt Hours.
Let's say that the average American household is using 5 Kilowatts.

5000 Watts X 100 Homes X 2 Minutes (0.034 hours) = 16,666.67 Watt Hours

The Z Machine output is 290 Terawatts  X 100 Nanoseconds  =
                                 (2.9E+14 Watts) X (1.67E-12 Hours)   = 483 Watt Hours

Ding Ding Ding, We have a winner.

RunningBare is RIGHT!  This machine is extraordinarily wasteful.

Looks like I have been hoodwinked by the Man again.

Sorry Stefan, your right too.  This machine should be condemned as a backward thinking waste of taxpayer dollars which is used to research weapons detonators.

You can just delete this whole thread if you want to,

But, it does make really cool sparks...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2008, 03:58:22 PM by z.monkey »

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Re: Z-Machine
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 01:55:32 PM »
Lol well yes I imagine cool sparks is certainly one thing you'll get.  ;D

And depending on how exactly you discharge that flippin hellishly high voltage
you can easily produce strong bursts of X-rays or even nastier radiation...
I sure as hell wouldn't want to be anywhere near that thing when those
"geniuses" at Sandia start blasting away, unless they allow me a good
thick lead shield... ;)