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Author Topic: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device  (Read 28293 times)

Offline Scorpile

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2008, 03:50:29 PM »
Gurangax.

What happen if you have an accident or something... then the only "posibly" correct working model will be lost?

Everybody is interested, please don't make humanity wait.

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Offline Joh70

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2008, 06:55:29 PM »
I will only claim something and talk about secrets and getting money, when i have a self-running prototype for sure!!!

Otherwise I would be quiet or would discuss it on a realistic way.

So please discuss it here and we proof your ideas. Otherwise build a model by your own hands and tell us if you were successfull.

If both is unacceptable for you, at least save our time. Thank you.

Good luck!

Offline Joh70

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2008, 07:04:13 PM »
@P_M: Falls Du ein P_M hast, dann bring es auf den Markt. Andernfalls m?ssen wir halt Malaysia bem?hen. Vielleicht haben die das Geld n?tiger.

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2008, 07:04:13 PM »
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Offline Joh70

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2008, 07:17:36 PM »
The Snookers wheel-idea from Chas Campell was discussed somewhere here++. But it will NOT work. There are also Videos and Drawings.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.345.html

Offline maw2432

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2008, 10:29:09 PM »
I saw where someone applied for a patent (years ago)  for a wheel that used cylinder magnets that moved within the wheel and (outside the wheel) repelling magnets to lift/move or create an overbalance to the wheel.  I never saw a working model or video. But the idea looked cool.   Maybe this is what is being proposed to make the wheel overbalanced?   Good luck.

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2008, 10:29:09 PM »
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Offline hansvonlieven

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2008, 11:28:49 PM »
Greetings to all.

Thanks to some emails now I can see things clearer. I'm not concerned anymore about the prize money. It means nothing. But like I told you guys in the previous post I don't like to give the answer directly. You must think before I give you my answer.


You have a lot to learn my boy !

Hans von Lieven


Thank you. Can you teach me?

http://keelytech.com

Hans von Lieven

hi

the link is dead, but I think I've been there before. Sorry for bothering you

Something must have gone wrong your end, the link is very much alive

Hans

Offline aleks

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2008, 01:40:17 AM »
http://keelytech.com

Hans von Lieven
Thanks sounds interesting. So, was Keely able to put a steel tube into self-sustaining resonance that was emanating acoustic waves and at the same time disintegrating that tube? Should be working like a tsunami wave that builds out of nowhere in the ocean. As you know, this wave is self-sustaining. But what's more important, it is sustained by smaller RANDOM waves that surround it (ocean is never calm). Probably, random (heat) movement of particles can be also used to support the self-sustaining resonance of the tube. Sounds like a break-through.

I'm as a bit of self-educated acoustician myself can envision that this tube is able to tap energy from random mechanical high-frequency oscillations into lower frequency oscillations - probably in a constant fashion. It is actually working as an acoustic frequency shifter (reduction gear would be a mechanical example) with a multi-octave arrangement. Even though, heat movement of atoms is considered to be random (white noise) due to geometrical structure of the matter it may exhibit acoustical modes that can be shifted to a lower octave. Beside that the white noise itself can be at first band-passed in a resonator and then fed into a frequency-shifter. Then shifted to even lower octave, etc. The heat movement of atoms is ever-running, and so the sound-generation can be made continuous.

On the other hand if that feat is possible, what is matter if not acoustic waves?

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2008, 03:03:59 AM »
Good man aleks,

Keep thinking along those lines. Keely was miles ahead of us as far as acoustics are concerned. Good luck with your research

Hans von Lieven

Offline gurangax

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2008, 04:56:39 AM »
Sorry guys

I don't have internet connection at home and I go to the town to have it. I read a few of chas campbell snooker wheel thread and since it will take quite some time for me to understand all of your points there, I'll just copy them and read it after I go back home. I have not seen the video yet and I am downloading it at the moment. In the mean time, If you guys found out how to solve my wheel problem don't hesistate to send it here.



-regards-

p.s I'm still unfinished writing my supposed to work explanation.


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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2008, 04:56:39 AM »
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Offline gurangax

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2008, 05:00:28 AM »
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If you have the time and are interested, It will be a good thing if you will model an animation of my supposed to work device after I gave the solution. Many thanks

it always develops something other me interestedly in the area of energy.
I already have a model this works, so I do not have to look any more for the solution.
you do not know either whether your solution works, since you have not built any model still.
nevertheless good turn out well.

Well I'm curious to. What is the name of your perpetual motion device. And have you guys disccussed it here yet. also are you willing to send me the video of it?

thanks

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2008, 09:03:34 AM »
Well Well Well,

Those two have found each other. I hope they will be happy together and keep telling us how clever they are and how stupid we all are by contrast.

This sort of stuff gives me the shits.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2008, 09:03:34 AM »
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Offline Joh70

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2008, 12:36:48 PM »
Hi guranga, P_M has not offered any video or fotos. So his "supposed to work" wheel was not discussed here in the forum. He is still waiting for commitment thru patent office, maybe. For a long time now...

Offline gurangax

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2008, 12:41:19 PM »
sorry to keep you waiting. I know that you are eager to know how my supposed to work device should work. so without further delay here it is. You may use it for what ever pleasure you want with it. Maybe you already know about this stuff but I found this myself without anyones help.

-regards-
« Last Edit: March 05, 2008, 11:21:09 AM by gurangax »

Offline Joh70

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2008, 01:27:02 PM »
Hi gurangax,

THANKS for your Document. You spend a lot of time to think over.

Unfortunately i am not convinced.

The wheel turns, when parking a ball. But only half a revolution. Then how should a ramp like yours lift a ball back up again??? I cannot see that.

The idea of using a ramp was comming often, for example from P_M last week. Have a look at the following thread:

"Bessler Build"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3925.0.html

Designs which use a ramp (means friction) as main principle will not work.

Also the combinations with any other stuff like External-Ball-Holder or SMOT somewhere, is an unfinished invention.

Thats the reason, why somebody should proof their ideas by building a model, before cause attraction to it. This, and only this, teaches the inventor. No other way to success.

Offline helmut

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Re: The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2008, 01:56:51 PM »
Hi gurangax

I Like your Design.Thanks vor sharing this unshaped diamond.

It makes everyone thinking,that the continuisly imbalance is created.

But by a natural law it will find a balance somehow,somewere.

Ones, i had a promising idea in mind
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3241.0.html

And from my own experience i can tell you,that you have to build a model to learn from nature.

Just as Johann states.

helmut

 

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