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Author Topic: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet  (Read 105789 times)

Offline Koen1

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2008, 03:09:31 PM »
Ah, ok, thanks for explaining. :D
Now I get it. :)

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2008, 09:13:36 PM »
@ aether22,
Koen1 may understand what you are doing, but I don't. Is this what you are doing? If so it is impressive that you can get a spark using such a simple generator. But youmust drain the batter real quick. Is the wire being moved parallel with the face of the magnetic pole or is it being moved towards and away from the face of the magnet pole?

Offline aether22

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #92 on: June 27, 2008, 12:53:14 AM »
That would be impressive, but no.

To make that drawing about right cut the wire that comes from the + battery terminal where it passes over the magnet, and make and break that connection quickly above the magnet pole.

The making and breaking pulses are not sharp enough if it's not over the magnet pole, but with placement over the magnet the magnet bends the arc blowing it out quickly. (it is the breaking that forms the spark naturally)

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #93 on: June 27, 2008, 02:36:11 AM »
@ aether22,
How about this?

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #94 on: June 27, 2008, 03:11:40 AM »
That would be impressive, but no.

To make that drawing about right cut the wire that comes from the + battery terminal where it passes over the magnet, and make and break that connection quickly above the magnet pole.

The making and breaking pulses are not sharp enough if it's not over the magnet pole, but with placement over the magnet the magnet bends the arc blowing it out quickly. (it is the breaking that forms the spark naturally)

So what it appears to be now is a standard magneto which is used in a lot of small cheap engines to generate a spark.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/question375.htm

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #95 on: June 27, 2008, 03:17:40 AM »
@ aether22,
How about this?
Yes. (although there is no need for the the wire from the bat. neg. to the transformer to pass over the magnet)

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #96 on: June 27, 2008, 07:44:04 AM »
@ aether22,
How about this?

Hi xee, very good drawing ;). Can you just do one correction and post the new one. Most people are not reading the details in my posts, so a good drawing would be great to have.

The copper wire strand to be pulsed on the magnet needs to be between the North and the South. The alligator clip to the coil can be on the North or the South pole and will magnetically hold since the are made of metal. The Negative wire lead will go directly to the coil, otherwise your drawing is perfect.

Your help is very appreciated. I have a new discovery and would like for you to look at it and see if you can help.

Please check this New Topic: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.0/topicseen.html

Everyone is welcome.

Luc
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 08:25:17 AM by gotoluc »

Offline Koen1

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #97 on: June 27, 2008, 02:28:50 PM »
Interesting road you have turned into there Luc :)

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #98 on: June 27, 2008, 04:48:05 PM »
@ gotoluc,
Glad to do drawing for you. But, I am not clear on just what you want. What one correction should I make?

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #99 on: June 27, 2008, 05:47:48 PM »
@ gotoluc,
Is this what you want?

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #100 on: June 27, 2008, 06:58:03 PM »
@ gotoluc,
Is this what you want?
Hi xee, this is very good, a few small changes. One is use the word Pulse and not spark, we also deed to say that if the wire sticks to the magnet then we need to flip the magnet around. Last thing is, you have one lead in the transformer going from the primary to the secondary coil, that should not be there.

Other than that I am very happy and thankfull of your help.

Luc

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #101 on: June 27, 2008, 08:34:01 PM »
@ gotoluc,
OK. How about this?

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #102 on: June 27, 2008, 08:49:41 PM »
@ gotoluc,
While I was doing drawings, I also made this one. Hydrogen Tap found that if he ran enough current through the neo magnets they would no longer be conductive but would intermittently generate large sparks when connected to a 12 volt battery. If you can get your magnets to become nonconductive then you should be able to build the following circuit and would get sparks without any mechanical moving of the wire. You may have to reverse the battery polarity.

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2008, 09:06:18 PM »
@ gotoluc,
OK. How about this?
Perfect ;)

Thanks

Luc

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Re: Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet
« Reply #104 on: June 27, 2008, 09:19:57 PM »
@ gotoluc,
While I was doing drawings, I also made this one. Hydrogen Tap found that if he ran enough current through the neo magnets they would no longer be conductive but would intermittently generate large sparks when connected to a 12 volt battery. If you can get your magnets to become nonconductive then you should be able to build the following circuit and would get sparks without any mechanical moving of the wire. You may have to reverse the battery polarity.

Well :-\... I don't know about this one but if you want to test it or anyone else please post your finding.

I must correct you about what you are saying here (mechanical moving of the wire is needed) because the effect I am showing involves no mechanical moving of a wire, when you do it right it self oscillates and if you change the length of the pulse wire it changes the frequency of the pulse and if you change the pressure on the wire you change the pulse width. So as you can see many things are going on here. A magnet and a single strand of copper wire can do what a 555 chip and a transistor does, let alone the other componets like pots and resistors and what have you to complete the circuit.

Luc