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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #405 on: September 27, 2008, 09:19:06 PM »
Thanks but Frenette is more an air (space) heater. I needed an adaptable water heater.
Grenier is perfect.
But I got curious about the other one you mentioned. More information, could you?

Will do on Monday - patent copy is at the office

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #406 on: September 27, 2008, 09:20:06 PM »
Build one and prove yourself wrong.
Paul.

Build what?

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #407 on: September 27, 2008, 09:22:01 PM »
This statement is untrue, as at worst, the Davey heater will act as an "Electrode Boiler", which are known to be up to 99.9% efficient - ie. more effecient than "element heaters".

I have experimented with a few builds and can state definitively that Davey heaters do boils water much faster than at least one element heater - ie. my kettle!  The problem with this kind of experimentation is that it can get expensive, electricity-wise!  I was recently thinking though, if 'resonance' is the 'secret', then experimenting with pure distilled water would be the way to go - a Davey/Electrode heater would use no electricity 'normally', though neither will it boil the distilled water!  However this lack of activity could be looked on as a benefit, 'cos if resonance is the answer, current would only start flowing in appreciable amounts as the heater was 'tuned' to the 'sweet-spot' - LC-circuit-wise!

Who cares about 99.9% this forum is supposed to be about overunity and the Davey heater does not cut it. Sorry

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #408 on: September 28, 2008, 03:29:23 PM »
Build what?
There's a clue in the message title.

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #409 on: September 28, 2008, 04:20:13 PM »
There's a clue in the message title.

already built many. what are you trying to say?

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #410 on: September 28, 2008, 10:18:55 PM »
Hi guys this is Digits

From my experiments i have found that this is a very efficient way to boil water ad very efficient way.
the draw back are that if there are calcium in the water it will start to form scaling on the one bell.
So some times my water will boil quick and other not so quick due to the minerals in the water.

And yes I have to agree I found that if you have a bell not necessary at 50HZ but any frequency and you take a voltage and let it resonate at the same frequency it will definitely work the second bell will be a problem if ti's not tuned the same as the first.

two suggestion's though
 
You can always boil oil also for heating alternatives

And if your setup is tuned to perfection then swap the sinewave for a square wave pulsed at the resonant frequency,will this not be a great HHO reactor

Anyway this is only my thoughts on it

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #411 on: September 29, 2008, 06:20:19 AM »
Good analysis sprocket!

This statement is untrue, as at worst, the Davey heater will act as an "Electrode Boiler", which are known to be up to 99.9% efficient - ie. more effecient than "element heaters".

I have experimented with a few builds and can state definitively that Davey heaters do boils water much faster than at least one element heater - ie. my kettle!  The problem with this kind of experimentation is that it can get expensive, electricity-wise!  I was recently thinking though, if 'resonance' is the 'secret', then experimenting with pure distilled water would be the way to go - a Davey/Electrode heater would use no electricity 'normally', though neither will it boil the distilled water!  However this lack of activity could be looked on as a benefit, 'cos if resonance is the answer, current would only start flowing in appreciable amounts as the heater was 'tuned' to the 'sweet-spot' - LC-circuit-wise!

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #412 on: September 29, 2008, 08:04:43 AM »
Another theory:
correct frequency of electric field convert part of  water into cold steam breaking hydrogen bonds between water molecule, then sinewave AC bouncing molecules heat it up very fast. The first is crucial, and if this is correct it's strongly related to Stanley Meyer original water fuel cell.

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #413 on: October 01, 2008, 02:29:23 PM »
Thanks but Frenette is more an air (space) heater. I needed an adaptable water heater.
Grenier is perfect.
But I got curious about the other one you mentioned. More information, could you?

Posted this, but it is not appearing, so here goes again.
Patent 4517427

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #414 on: October 01, 2008, 04:58:39 PM »
Another theory:
correct frequency of electric field convert part of  water into cold steam breaking hydrogen bonds between water molecule, then sinewave AC bouncing molecules heat it up very fast. The first is crucial, and if this is correct it's strongly related to Stanley Meyer original water fuel cell.
Also, the resonance may cause dissociation into monatomic atoms and immediate
recombing. They can be noisy, and this points to cavitation. Remember the fabled
hydro vacuo machine of John Worrell Keely?

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #415 on: October 10, 2008, 09:41:18 AM »
@ALL,
I got across a real free energy heater IF there is already a moving liquid or gas inside a pipe!
Please read the following patent and any comments will be highly appreciated.
US5773798

I made a simple room heater design in the following way :
Take a pipe (some pipes) and build the structure inside.
With a small electric motor turn the structure while blowing air
inside the pipe.
On the other side of the pipe get heated air.

I know my design is not free energy but would be a highly efficient heater
as the motor is a small one. It all depends on how hot the air on the other side
would be. It could even be OU if it is hot enough.

1. I intend to build this design and am curious about your comments on how
efficient it would be.

2. It could be made into a closed loop water heating system for household heating
purposes as well. How efficient would that one be?

Dev

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #416 on: October 10, 2008, 09:54:43 AM »
@ALL,
I got across a real free energy heater IF there is already a moving liquid or gas inside a pipe!
Please read the following patent and any comments will be highly appreciated.
US5773798

I made a simple room heater design in the following way :
Take a pipe (some pipes) and build the structure inside.
With a small electric motor turn the structure while blowing air
inside the pipe.
On the other side of the pipe get heated air.

I know my design is not free energy but would be a highly efficient heater
as the motor is a small one. It all depends on how hot the air on the other side
would be. It could even be OU if it is hot enough.

1. I intend to build this design and am curious about your comments on how
efficient it would be.

2. It could be made into a closed loop water heating system for household heating
purposes as well. How efficient would that one be?

Dev

please post graphical explanation

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #417 on: October 10, 2008, 10:26:11 AM »
please post graphical explanation

Thanks.
Did you get the patent pdf?
I attach it here in case some of you do not want to bother with
www.freepatentsonline.com membership.
When you see the graphics in the patent doc
my design will be obvious to you without further drawings.

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #418 on: October 10, 2008, 10:37:31 AM »
thanks, i am about to look at the file now... like to see your home made version. off to see the file now...

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Re: Peter Davey Heater
« Reply #419 on: October 10, 2008, 10:57:34 AM »
thanks, i am about to look at the file now... like to see your home made version. off to see the file now...

On the first page of the patent there is an image.
According to my design I attach a small motor on the side of "f" that both
turns the heating line "L" and blows air in.