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Offline buggyirk

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2008, 10:38:13 PM »
Simple, i am the autor  ;D.
I just thought it was enough like that.


You are confusing the hell out of me. So you are saying you are the maker of the original video and it was fake............................ Thank you for wasting everyones time.


If you really are the autor(as you put it) then post something on youtube that proves you are them with their screen name. Otherwise, leave us alone, and stop posting such bs ???

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2008, 10:38:13 PM »

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2008, 10:42:56 PM »
@buggyirk,

"There seems to be light on top of the magnet. If the stators had to be a specific hieght to keep the magnet in place, why would there be light on top of it. It is almost as though the legos holding the stator arn't really there for a specific reason. The magnets are just sitting in there. Maybe they are glued, but why build the little stator holders?"

I didn't get that.


P.S. With regard to the clown @v71, recall there was someone in @xpenzif's thread using a deceiving handle "@xpenzif  ." with a dot who also claimed he's the author and that it's fake. It very well may be @v71 is that same one taking pleasure in disturbing discussions. He should know he's grounded and if he continues he'll hear no polite words.

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2008, 10:48:56 PM »
@ buggyirk

Thanks for the file.  I don't want to steal your thunder, but I would like to try some different angles.

Concerning your annotation and comment about "light on the stator magnet," I've been looking at shadows and lighting as well, and for that image I would conclude that the magnet is touching the bottom of the large brace and possibly the base as well -- which is why magnet dimensions and internal height are important.  Basically, I don't see much clearance around the stator magnet.

Recall from the WhipMag device that the STATOR mag TOPS are aligned to the ROTOR mag BOTTOMS -- like a staircase almost.  I see the same orientation in the Lego device.  Thus, I have to conclude that the upper brace keeps the stator mag from being attracted "upwards" to the rotor mag.  In my design I would use automotive double-stick tape -- and if the clearance permits I would apply tape to both the top and bottom of the stator mag.

Make sense?  ::)

Cheers,

Yada ..
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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2008, 10:48:56 PM »
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Offline buggyirk

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2008, 11:01:26 PM »
@buggyirk,

"There seems to be light on top of the magnet. If the stators had to be a specific hieght to keep the magnet in place, why would there be light on top of it. It is almost as though the legos holding the stator arn't really there for a specific reason. The magnets are just sitting in there. Maybe they are glued, but why build the little stator holders?"

I didn't get that.

Sorry, disregard all that. All that was a product of too much over analization. It makes sense to me now. For some reason I was seeing a gap there. My mind was just playing tricks on me.

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2008, 11:07:20 PM »
@ buggyirk

Thanks for the file.  I don't want to steal your thunder, but I would like to try some different angles.


By all means steal, steal. I am out for the weekend. I will check back on Monday to see what is transpiring. Busy, Busy, Busy


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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2008, 11:07:20 PM »
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Offline Yadaraf

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2008, 08:33:32 AM »
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 @ALL

Apple QuickTime is good for some things, like slow motion viewing and image processing on-the-fly.  Thus, I made a MOV version of the YoutTube FLV file.

In addition, I shortened the YouTube video to show only the first five seconds of startup, so that I could focus on dimensioning and studying components.

..  I've attached the shortened video in MOV format (267KB).  8)

If you adjust the brightness/contrast/color etc. and use slow motion to manually reverse and forward the video very carefully, you can get better idea of what happens during startup.  After studying the video, those "rubber bands" may simply be string clutch-like devices that keep the rotor magnets moving smoothly.  Another thing that puzzles me is that the diameter of the center spool is smaller that the rotor spool.

I hope to get some parts Monday and start building this thing.

Cheers,

Yada ..
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Offline Yadaraf

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2008, 11:48:42 AM »
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Using Buggyirk's CAD file, I rotated/resized the drawing as necessary to match the perspective on the video.  It took awhile and I had to change some of the brick sizes, but I think the drawing can provide useful dimensions.  The surprise is that the stator housing appears to have a 1" opening.  The magnets don't appear any wider that 5/8" so that leaves 3/8" clearance [around the magnet].  The builder might have placed 3/8" tall 2x2 [or 1x1] bricks beneath the magnets, but I can't tell.

Cheers.

Yada ..
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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2008, 11:48:42 AM »
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Offline v71

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2008, 11:55:35 AM »
I see that you are working around my fake experiment, now i want to tell the real story, since i think that this joke went far too much.
The experiment was a joke me and one friend of mine did to fool a guy claiming he had a permanent magnet motor.
The video somehoe slipped trhough youtube and things got out of hand pretty fast.
I don't know who posted, but me and my friend filmed the fake motor.
The video is backwards, if you don't believe me, try to play in reverse.
I don't care to be banned, i just saw how much money people spent on this silly experiment and i don't feel its correct.
Stop whatever you are doing, you will waste time and money.
Over.

Offline tinu

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2008, 01:19:14 PM »
Simple, i am the autor  ;D.
I just thought it was enough like that.


 ;D  ;D  ;D
Stay with us v71 and keep posting about your joke. It indeed went too far because into the strong ?religion? pervading everything around, the lego motor was a ?big promise? of the time. Some of its consequences are still visible, as you can see. But you might well be insistently requested to provide additional ?proofs? because that?s the way things work inhere (don?t ask me why)  and, along the process, expect to be also insulted (it became almost customary to expect insults in response to certain opinions.)

In response to other posts of yours:
Your views about magnetic motors are correct.
I don?t think you?ll be banned just because you are not na?ve and not a follower, although there were several cases in the past. (The official accusation was usually that of ?disturbing the forum?, though. Ha!)

Welcome again,
Tinu

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2008, 01:19:14 PM »
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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2008, 08:48:48 PM »
I see that you are working around my fake experiment, now i want to tell the real story, since i think that this joke went far too much.
The experiment was a joke me and one friend of mine did to fool a guy claiming he had a permanent magnet motor.
The video somehoe slipped trhough youtube and things got out of hand pretty fast.
I don't know who posted, but me and my friend filmed the fake motor.
The video is backwards, if you don't believe me, try to play in reverse.
I don't care to be banned, i just saw how much money people spent on this silly experiment and i don't feel its correct.
Stop whatever you are doing, you will waste time and money.
Over.

@ v71

The universe works in mysterious ways.  Assuming that you have faked the device, you were, nonetheless, inspired to do so.  Using Lego bricks is inspiration enough.  ;D   I would never have considered using Lego bricks.  We are all pieces in a very large puzzle.  Welcome to the puzzle.   ;)

When I assemble the pieces next week, I might be laughing with you, but then again I [we] might learn something in the process.  I most certainly have learned how to use Lego Designer.  8)  Many of us don't have machine shops and are looking for affordable ways to replicate the WhipMag.  Who's to say the WhipMag can't be made from Lego bricks?  I'm sure Lego would like to add a "PMM Kit" to their list of products, and I'm sure young kids and educators would enjoy playing with it to learn about magnets.  If you follow Lego, they are now offering magnet bricks.  Why?  Magnets are fascinating.  I intend to  continue down this path and see what can be done with Lego magnet blocks -- for the next generation of investigators.  I was young once, myself.

The universe works in mysterious ways, and sometimes the path to success is not obvious.  Clearing the path is most certainly a group effort.

Thanks for your inspiration -- intentional or otherwise.

Cheers,

Yada..
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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2008, 11:19:57 AM »
V71:
   I have no way to verify who you are, and it really doesn't matter at this point. You have stated the intent and told it like it was. That makes you morally and financially separated from anything done forward. Sometimes we all just have to see for our selves. Case in point, the prendev. Plain out said it didn't work. My brain couldn't accept that, so had to make one and it didn't work. $400 worth of magnets now for other things.
   So let them go for it. Its fun.

thaelin

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Offline Yadaraf

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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2008, 01:05:32 AM »
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V71,

I'm having trouble locating some of the parts in your design.

Q1:  Where did you get the magnets?

Q2:  What did you use for the central red spool piece and rotor spool pieces?

Q3:  DId you use rubber bands or string to connect the spool pieces.

If you can provide snapshots, that would be great.

Cheers,  :)

Yada ..
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Re: New accelerating lego magnet motor on youtube
« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2008, 06:48:12 PM »
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While I wait for my Lego bricks, I have this for encouragement (and entertainment).

...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StWZDqqBfJo&eurl

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
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