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Author Topic: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?  (Read 186348 times)

Offline gezgin

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 05:13:31 PM »
@Groundloop,
Finally i added L3 coil and testing your circuit .I used 220 ohm/5 watt resistor instead of R2.
Here is outpu coil waveform :

thanks.

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 11:21:44 PM »
@gezgin,

I do not know what voltage scale you use on your scope but the pulses looks OK to me.
So how is your battery doing?

[EDIT]
Sorry, did not see the 10 Volts/Div text right away. So the output spikes is bigger than 12 Volt?
What input are you running at?

Groundloop.

Offline gezgin

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 06:50:06 PM »
battery still low 11 volt..
output spikes is bigger 12 volt,  maybe 30 volt because scope probe is x10 position.(you can see with this photo )
your circuit is interesting,  i can see multifrequency pulses 10 ms, 60 usn..

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 06:50:06 PM »
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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2008, 10:26:13 PM »
@gezgin,

Hang in there. If the battery has gained to 11 Volt and the battery does not heat up, then
just push on. Keep the input voltage to the charger below 11 Volt so that just the high
voltage pulses is "hitting" the battery. When the battery has passed a rest voltage of 12 volt
then you can turn up the input voltage a bit. Just keep on charging. It takes time for the
battery to recover. Maybe later you can mount the charger into a nice plastic box? :-)

Groundloop.

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 11:16:52 PM »
You can now also put the power supply voltage to about 14 Volts.
But then monitor the battery voltage and don?t let it runover night
or when you are not there.
When the battery begins to gas out, please be careful and
shut it down.
Don?t unplug the plugs directly at the battery as this could
cause a spark and the HHO gas might explode inside the battery.
Shut down the external power supply instead.

Let us know, what comes out of it.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2008, 11:53:31 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
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Offline Groundloop

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2008, 05:29:53 PM »
@gezgin,

I agree with Stefan. If a lead acid battery is making Hydrogen then there is always a danger present of fire and gas exploding inside the battery. All chargers can make a battery produce Hydrogen gas.

Anyway, how is your battery doing?

Groundloop.

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2008, 01:23:27 AM »
Hello to all
Sorry this is a little out of subject
I was wondering if you could help me.
I am trying to replicate some of these alternative technologies, and I am missing one key element.
It's the wire..........
The wire is Teflon insulated, silver coated copper wire....it's military kind of wire.
I am from Serbia, and I was wondering Stefan or anyone else have you already found a supplier for
that kind of wire, or can you find some source in Germany or some other
European country?
It would be shame to order all the way from USA, if I can find it more closer to
my home. I don't know one word of German or any other language than
English,Hungarian and Serbian.......and these doesn't help me very much :(

Thank you all in advance

Best from Palic

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
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Offline Groundloop

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2008, 10:01:15 AM »
@Palic,

Use Google.com and type "Teflon insulated, silver coated copper wire" into the search box.

First link I got was: http://www.vesely.info/cables.htm

Regards,
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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2008, 10:23:27 AM »
Yes, you are right, chargers create smell, and i'm bored dead&bad battery..  still show low voltage..
Groundloop, i found your files in yahoo ssg group ..kuntel circuit, did you build&test it?
There is a bedini charger&desulfator at http://www.r-charge.com/RD.html,Radiant Battery Rejuvenator (some kind pulse,rf spikes charger?
interesting.

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2008, 11:21:59 AM »
@gezgin,

If you battery still is low voltage then your battery has a short between one or several plates.
If MY charger can't charge your battery then the Bedini charger will not charge your battery.
(Simple as that. Just recycle your battery to the nearest recycle station in your town.)

Yes, I did build and test the circuit. I found it to be a good battery charger but no free energy.

Groundloop.

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2008, 09:32:35 PM »
Thank you Groundloop  :)
Palic

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 02:28:56 AM »
@Groundloop
Can you please tell me how should I wind all three coils at once? ???
Should they be wound by hand, randomly...just taking care that
all three wires are wound at once?
Or they must be wound in some special way?
I have ultrafast diodes BYV79E-200, they are 12A, less than 30nS,but
only 200V -is this enough, or should I order the 500V diodes.
Oh yes, is the answer is that I should order the 500V diodes, I have
another question..
Can I connect serialy 2 diodes of 200V ,and get 400V diodes without loosing
the less than 30nS parameter?

I have 4 batteries of 12V 180Ah each, they are in very bad shape
Before may 1 I must try something to do with them to get back the
capacity, or spend about 800EUR for the new ones. :'(
Please help

Thank you Palic

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 05:50:34 AM »
@Palic,

Take a empty 1/2 litre Cola plastic bottle. Wind all three coils at the same time around the bottle.
Secure with tape when done. Then cut away excess plastic. It will take you maximum 10 minutes.

BYV79E-200 is OK. No need to connect diodes in series. 200 V is OK.

Just do NOT run the circuit without a battery connected on the output.

Groundloop.

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2008, 11:05:32 PM »
Thank you Grounloop for your quick reply.

Today I managed to get the wire,and they are:
1,1 mm - 1,1 kg witch I mesured 145meters,and 2,7kg of 1,05mm wire witch will
be the other two wires when split in two parts.
As I calculated I will need about 75meters of wire for just one wire of the
trifilar winding when using diameter of 100mm.

I will present the calculation:
ID 100mm, OD 120mm so the middle is 110mm
110mm * PI =0.346 meters for one circle of winding
as I need 600 circles it will be 207meters of wire
or for trifilar winding it will be 3 wires of  69meters,
and the windings will not be perfect so I guess it will
be something like 3 wires of 75 to 80 meters.
If I am wrong please correct me.  :-[

Thank you
  Palic

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Re: 12V 60A car battery , maybe dead?
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2008, 01:14:59 AM »
@Palic,

Yes you got it right. It is NOT that critical and the margin for error is big.

Groundloop.

 

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