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Author Topic: Thane Heins Perepiteia.  (Read 1821381 times)

Offline baroutologos

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4770 on: May 26, 2009, 03:12:36 PM »
@ all,

It will be greatly appreciated if this thread is not to turn to a chat room log.

Instead IMO, each one could take his/her time to explain his working setup (photos are great BTW) and present findings.

Regards,
Baroutologos

ps: I apologize for the double post
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Offline minde4000

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4771 on: May 26, 2009, 04:01:09 PM »
My opinion my opinion my opinion...... Seems like as time will go here will be so many opinions here that it might get very confusing. Personally I dont give a dam about these "opinions" I will start where T left (altho with stronger magnets and no cups) and then go from there. I think trying to improve something or add your own design right on the very first model might be a mistake when at the end it might not work properly.
On the other hand its nice to read findings photos and other data from people who are trying to replicate. I think it is very imporatant to start from as exect  copy of "confirmed" working model as possible. So if you are not building or really understand how it works your wacky opion might hurt others. I think an idea of multiple rotor setup driven by the same prime mover should be really interesting. All will come with time.

Regards Minde

P.S. Here is a rotor I would like to try out. Rotor is 304 SS non-magnetic .5" thickness with 1"x1" magnets glued as shown. I am kind of affraid that this .5" thick rotor might be too heavy for bearings.. Other specs per T.

« Last Edit: May 26, 2009, 07:36:05 PM by minde4000 »
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Offline wattsup

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4772 on: May 26, 2009, 08:10:33 PM »
@baroutologos

Thanks for your post. Although I would really like to step into this and work out some parallel ideas, I am sort of tied up these days with this Mylow thing, had my own wheel made (cost a heep) and also am now waiting for my magnets to arrive.

I have no machining equipment so everything has to be shopped out each time I need a part or whatever. But I will consider it seriously.

My main idea is for the coil to be wound using multi-insulated strands of wire that are twisted then wrapped on the coil. This will provide the best anti-drag between the magnets and the coils since the field in the coil will want to stay inside the winding and not be imparted against the magnets.

One member @IST tried this lately with his MK3 build, or something like that.

Maybe someone should open a new thread called "Thane Heines - Perepetia - Replications" (or other) and start from scratch, so as not to really mix things up on Thanes thread.
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4773 on: May 27, 2009, 12:51:03 AM »
Quote from: wattsup on May 26, 2009, 08:10:33 PM

Maybe someone should open a new thread called "Thane Heines - Perepetia - Replications" (or other) and start from scratch, so as not to really mix things up on Thanes thread.

That makes a lot of sense wattsup, It has been one month now since Thane posted, so the writing is on the wall.

Could we get Harti to lock this one and keep it as an archive?

Ron
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Offline warrent

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4774 on: May 27, 2009, 01:55:19 AM »
Has anyone tried to call Thane to see what he is up to?
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Offline wattsup

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4775 on: May 27, 2009, 02:38:35 AM »
@i_ron

Just send a PM to @stefan and he will lock it. he can always unlock it if Thanes comes back.
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Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4776 on: May 27, 2009, 07:10:44 AM »
Quote from: i_ron on May 27, 2009, 12:51:03 AM
That makes a lot of sense wattsup, It has been one month now since Thane posted, so the writing is on the wall.

Could we get Harti to lock this one and keep it as an archive?

Ron

I second that.
I am also concerned that maybe Thane would come back and erase everything since he had moderator privileges. With a new "replicators" thread we could at least use this thread as reference without the fear of relevant post disappearing.
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Offline Pageygeeza

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4777 on: May 27, 2009, 10:32:01 AM »
If Thane is the thread moderator, he unfortunately has all privileges.  Let's just hope he doesn't HAVE to pull the thread.  But anyway, If a new thread hasn't been started yet, can someone do it soon please?  "Thane Heins Perepiteia Replication Thread", sounds pretty apt.  A nice place to put musings, theory's, Inventions that all involve Thanes ideas in some shape or form.  When this thread is closed there should be a link to the new thread, to save a lot of confusion about where to go.

Just my 2 pennies worth.  I won't post again until the new thread is started.

Thanks,

Daz
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Offline Harmonic33

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4778 on: May 27, 2009, 01:00:57 PM »
I 4th everyone's opinions here ::)

Has anyone archived this themselves? and if so how big is the file?

If not I'll consider doing manually.....  But, 485 pages.... you know.

Cheerz

Dan.
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4779 on: May 27, 2009, 04:48:19 PM »
Quote from: Pageygeeza on May 27, 2009, 10:32:01 AM
If Thane is the thread moderator, he unfortunately has all privileges.  Let's just hope he doesn't HAVE to pull the thread.  But anyway, If a new thread hasn't been started yet, can someone do it soon please?  "Thane Heins Perepiteia Replication Thread", sounds pretty apt.  A nice place to put musings, theory's, Inventions that all involve Thanes ideas in some shape or form.  When this thread is closed there should be a link to the new thread, to save a lot of confusion about where to go.

Just my 2 pennies worth.  I won't post again until the new thread is started.

Thanks,

Daz

Hi All,

I wrote to Stefan last nite (PDST) and so I imagine the first thing he will do is try to contact Thane...

The last announcement that I had from Thane (5/17)was to several members of his family, a reported at the Toronto Star and myself. I contacted the reporter yesterday and he has not written this up, as he was waiting for confirmation from Thane. So I shan't say anymore until it has been reported.

Ron


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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4780 on: May 27, 2009, 08:48:13 PM »
Quote from: Harmonic33 on May 27, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
I 4th everyone's opinions here ::)

Has anyone archived this themselves? and if so how big is the file?

If not I'll consider doing manually.....  But, 485 pages.... you know.

Cheerz

Dan.

Hi Dan,

In actual fact there is not much meat in those 485 pages.

So just the last few models need be copied, JPG's of rotor, coil, text of wire gauge's and turns and the little explanations, if found....

Ron
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Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4781 on: May 27, 2009, 09:34:33 PM »
Quote from: i_ron on May 27, 2009, 08:48:13 PM
Hi Dan,

In actual fact there is not much meat in those 485 pages.

So just the last few models need be copied, JPG's of rotor, coil, text of wire gauge's and turns and the little explanations, if found....

Ron

You are so right about those 485 pages. About 30-50 worthwhile pages in this thread. If someone can just get the highlights than maybe we can post those in a new thread as the starter page which will also serve as a backup for this thread in case it goes away.
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Offline Pageygeeza

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4782 on: May 27, 2009, 10:16:36 PM »
Yeah I know I'm replying, but................  This can't be right.

I tested my new rig and found this out.  Hand turning it I got 5VAC and 0.1A.  Now theoretically I could get it to go 4 times faster and I'm going to have x10 more magnets in it.

Going by my calculations, that's 200VAC at 800Watts.  Or have I calculated it all wrong?

Help me please!
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4783 on: May 28, 2009, 12:45:54 AM »
Quote from: Pageygeeza on May 27, 2009, 10:16:36 PM
Yeah I know I'm replying, but................  This can't be right.

I tested my new rig and found this out.  Hand turning it I got 5VAC and 0.1A.  Now theoretically I could get it to go 4 times faster and I'm going to have x10 more magnets in it.

Going by my calculations, that's 200VAC at 800Watts.  Or have I calculated it all wrong?

Help me please!

Yes you are right... you have calculated it wrong.  Just adding 10 magnets will not necessarily give 10 times the output,
and 4 times speed won't necessarily give you 4 times output.

Then to your meter is optimizer for 50 Hz (60Hz) so ten more magnets and 4 times more speed will put your meter into error
mode...

Some interesting information on the wind generator sites...

http://www.windstuffnow.com/main/generator.htm

Ron
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Offline JustMe

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4784 on: May 28, 2009, 03:04:25 AM »
Quote from: i_ron on May 27, 2009, 04:48:19 PM
Hi All,

I wrote to Stefan last nite (PDST) and so I imagine the first thing he will do is try to contact Thane...

The last announcement that I had from Thane (5/17)was to several members of his family, a reported at the Toronto Star and myself. I contacted the reporter yesterday and he has not written this up, as he was waiting for confirmation from Thane. So I shan't say anymore until it has been reported.

Ron

That sounds kind of ominous Ron.  Now I'm kind of worried about him.  Can you assure us at least that all is well with him and family?
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