Quote from: tinu on January 26, 2008, 01:11:00 AM

@omnibus,

You really need to prove my point above, don?t you?

In A the ball has plenty of potential energy (Ma).
Ma is not zero and it can not be zero since you already has chosen Mc=0.
This Ma potential energy, if you need to be educated, is due to SMOT position; when you are done with SMOT (I doubt you will ever be but lets assume for a second) and decide to put it back to its place and the ball elsewhere, you spend Ma Joules every time. So, this is not unaccounted, neither is Mb.

I doubt you can understand it since you made such gaffes in the past and keep continuing like a broken robot. But I don?t care anymore. You had your chance. Now I definitely made my mind, I do not consider you have much if anything of relevance to say  to me and I?m done with you. This is the third time I say it. I don?t want to say it again. Got it now?

Tinu

No, no. I'm talking about the energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) which isn't at point A as you incorrectly understand. You're confused and it's better not to continue because discussing it with you won't lead to anything of substance but will only serve to clarify your confusion. You should clarify confusion of this type only by yourself without bothering other people.

Quote from: Omnibus on January 26, 2008, 01:33:06 AM

Quote from: tinu on January 26, 2008, 01:11:00 AM

@omnibus,

You really need to prove my point above, don?t you?

In A the ball has plenty of potential energy (Ma).
Ma is not zero and it can not be zero since you already has chosen Mc=0.
This Ma potential energy, if you need to be educated, is due to SMOT position; when you are done with SMOT (I doubt you will ever be but lets assume for a second) and decide to put it back to its place and the ball elsewhere, you spend Ma Joules every time. So, this is not unaccounted, neither is Mb.

I doubt you can understand it since you made such gaffes in the past and keep continuing like a broken robot. But I don?t care anymore. You had your chance. Now I definitely made my mind, I do not consider you have much if anything of relevance to say  to me and I?m done with you. This is the third time I say it. I don?t want to say it again. Got it now?

Tinu

No, no. I'm talking about the energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) which isn't at point A as you incorrectly understand. You're confused and it's better not to continue because discussing it with you won't lead to anything of substance but will only serve to clarify your confusion. You should clarify confusion of this type only by yourself without bothering other people.

You talk nonsense as usual but, at your own choice, the news is that to me you are really stupid.

Let me put it this way: there are +8k members here. Talk to somebody else, moron.
Can?t you understand that much?

The greatest insult and ad hominem attack is to deliberately ignore the arguments of your opponent and push incessantly obvious incompetence. That must not be tolerated by anyone who cares about scientific truth and should be vigorously confronted.

@tinu,

You?re not qualified to advise ...
...
Semi-educated people such as you should be advised to restrain from expressing their unqualified opinions in forums such as this because they clutter it and make the substantial findings sink into the swamp of incompetence.

Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 11:48:43 PM

@tinu,

You?re not qualified to advise ...
...
Semi-educated people such as you should be advised to restrain from expressing their unqualified opinions in forums such as this because they clutter it and make the substantial findings sink into the swamp of incompetence.

Do you want me to buy you a ticket?
Have a safe journey!

There are several such not well educated but very active and arrogant people here and, sadly, in every forum who suffocate the discussions. The forum would be a much better place had there no active users such as @RunningBare mostly cluttering the threads with chit-chat and unsubstantial blabber.